Republicans Block Veterans' Jobs Bill

[Va Beach VH Fan]

http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/g-o-p-blocks-veteran-jobs-bill/

G.O.P. Blocks Veteran Jobs Bill
By LAWRENCE DOWNES

Veterans won’t be getting a new, billion-dollar jobs program, not from this Senate. Republicans on Wednesday afternoon blocked a vote on the Veterans Job Corps Bill after Jeff Sessions of Alabama raised a point of order — he said the bill violated a cap on spending agreed to by Congress last year. The bill’s sponsor, Patty Murray of Washington, said that shouldn’t matter, since the bill’s cost was fully offset by new revenues. She said Mr. Sessions and his party colleagues had been furiously generating excuses to oppose the bill, and were now exploiting a technicality to deny thousands of veterans a shot at getting hired as police officers, firefighters and parks workers, among other things.

The vote was 58-40; the bill needed 60 votes to proceed.

It would be easier to admire the Republicans’ late-breaking fiscal scrupulosity if their motives — denying the Obama administration any kind of victory this year, whatever the cost to jobless vets — weren’t so transparent. It’s probably useful to remind Republicans like John McCain (a “nay” on the jobs bill) that wounded, jobless and homeless veterans aren’t a fact of nature. They’re a product of the wars that Congress members voted for, the war debt they piled on, and the economy they helped ruin.

“It’s unbelievable that even after more than a decade of war, many Republicans still will not acknowledge that the treatment of our veterans is a cost of war,” Ms. Murray said in a statement after the vote.

[ELVIS]

What kind of earmarks were hidden in the bill ??

[knuckleboner]

it wasn't earmarks, elvis. the bill was killed because republicans don't like to increase revenues. not for infrastructure improvements. not for deficit reduction. not for veterans.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

What kind of earmarks were hidden in the bill ??

Nothing from what I can tell, but you can read for yourself....

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s3457pcs/pdf/BILLS-112s3457pcs.pdf

[Hardrock69]

This is disgusting.

Since when are they so NON-patriotic that instead of trying to help our veterans, they want to assrape them?

They usually are the ones screaming the loudest about how patriotic they are. Then, there is no mention of our troops at the RNC, now they do this.

What a bunch of goddamnable fucks! :mad:

[ELVIS]

Are Obama's "shovel ready projects" shovel ready yet ??

[BigBadBrian]

This bill was designed to try to get vets hired on as firemen and cops....help which is currently available under the GI Bill.

- There's tax credits and incentives for employers to hire vets

- Troops to Teachers program

- Veterans serving veterans programs

- Help for vets to start their own biz (I've personally taken advantage of that and now have a pretty decent biz besides my regular job)

- The VA's many programs to help retrain vets for additional jobs

- Helmets to Hardhats program.....and on and on.

Another new program isn't needed. What is needed, however, is for both fucking sides to quit trying to score points on one another and instead actually help vets by adequately fund the VA's programs and other programs already in place with the original spending bills! The VA is drastically underfunded as well as undermanned. Hire more VA counselors, dammit!

[jhale667]

First they blatantly omit any mention of veterans from their convention speech, now this... winning the "hearts and minds" of voters (veteran or otherwise) doesn't seem to be a priority...

[ZahZoo]

Are Obama's "shovel ready projects" shovel ready yet ??

Only if you're shoveling shit for nothin...

[ELVIS]

That's what a lot of government make work programs do...

[FORD]

The thing that hasn't been brought up yet in this thread is the vote...

58 - 40 in FAVOR of the bill.

Or in other words, the bill would have passed in any dimension where the normal goddamn rules of math apply. But instead, Spineless Harry pissed his Holy Underwear again, and caved into Bitch McTurtle's THREAT of a filibuster.

I do not want the Repukes to take the Senate. That will obviously make matters much worse. But if the Democrats hold on to the Senate in November, they DAMNED well better put a new Majority Leader in that seat in January. One who understands the meaning of the words "majority" and "leader". Because Spineless Harry is neither.

[Nickdfresh]

That's what a lot of government make work programs do...

Sure, just ask General Dynamics...

[Nitro Express]

The thing that hasn't been brought up yet in this thread is the vote...

58 - 40 in FAVOR of the bill.

Or in other words, the bill would have passed in any dimension where the normal goddamn rules of math apply. But instead, Spineless Harry pissed his Holy Underwear again, and caved into Bitch McTurtle's THREAT of a filibuster.

I do not want the Repukes to take the Senate. That will obviously make matters much worse. But if the Democrats hold on to the Senate in November, they DAMNED well better put a new Majority Leader in that seat in January. One who understands the meaning of the words "majority" and "leader". Because Spineless Harry is neither.

Harry Greed is a Mormon. He was invited to give a talk at a church youth meeting and they had to cancel it due to threats being called in. Members have bombarded his stake president and bishop demanding Brother Reid be excommunicated. That's ok, if someone tried to shoot him his holy underwear would stop the bullets.

[Nitro Express]

Only if you're shoveling shit for nothin...

What Obama meant was bullshit shoveling ready jobs. He has hired lot's of bullshitters in Washington DC who create a lot of bullshit.

[Nitro Express]

Well think of all the money both the Republicans and Democrats gave the banks and a lot of that money got sent out of the country. What it would cost to bring the VA up to speed would be loose change.

[BigBadBrian]

But if the Democrats hold on to the Senate in November, they DAMNED well better put a new Majority Leader in that seat in January. One who understands the meaning of the words "majority" and "leader". Because Spineless Harry is neither.

That'll never happen, FORD, you know that.

[FORD]

That'll never happen, FORD, you know that.

Well, considering Tom Dasshole was a spineless pussy too, it's possible this is the fake "democrats" in the DLC putting these cowards in this place, as an excuse to not accomplish anything.

Who we NEED in that position is Bernie Sanders, obviously. But Hell, at this point, I'm actually wishing Hillary had never left the Senate. Yeah, she's a DLC false "democrat" as well, and probably wouldn't get all the votes right either, but she wouldn't take this crap from Bitch McTurtle.

Fuck, let's give Patty Murray a shot. She can throw her tennis shoes at the Turtle's head when he's being an obstructionist douchebag.

[Nitro Express]

I think Harry Reid has Satan's finger up his old krusty ass.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Fuck, let's give Patty Murray a shot. She can throw her tennis shoes at the Turtle's head when he's being an obstructionist douchebag.

You wouldn't see these problems if Congress were mostly women instead of mostly men, I'm convinced of that...

[Nitro Express]

More Nancy Pelosis and Michelle Bachmans yikes!

[ELVIS]

You wouldn't see these problems if Congress were mostly women instead of mostly men, I'm convinced of that...

You really think that ??

[Hardrock69]

I dunno.....what if they all were on their periods at the same time every month.....then you might actually see cat-fights in Congress!!! :hee:


What Obama meant was bullshit shoveling ready jobs. He has hired lot's of bullshitters in Washington DC who create a lot of bullshit.

As did Chimpy, Clinton, Bush St., Reagan, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy....

[FORD]

Maybe Satan can send LBJ up and he can be Senate Majority Leader again. You know he wouldn't put up with this shit.

[binnie]

Whenever you follow politics that old saying 'High School never ends' rings very true.....