Now that the NFL referrees strike is apparently over, somebody's gotta say this.

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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 59658

    Now that the NFL referrees strike is apparently over, somebody's gotta say this.

    In the matter of a few short weeks, Mainstream America has witnessed first hand what happens when unskilled scabs attempt to replace a union.

    Think about this next time you hear union bashing bullshit coming from the right wing.

    Sad that the irony of all this will probably be lost on the KKKoch funded union hating politicians from Wisconsin like Scott Walker and Eddie Munster, who were among those screaming the loudest to bring the REAL refs back after the Monday night game.
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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    #2
    Originally posted by FORD
    In the matter of a few short weeks, Mainstream America has witnessed first hand what happens when unskilled scabs attempt to replace a union.

    Wisconsin like Scott Walker and Eddie Munster, who were among those screaming the loudest to bring the REAL refs back after the Monday night game.
    So what percentage of skilled workers in America belong to a union? Less than 10%, correct?

    And the Wisconsin thing...it was unions for govt employees that was at issue, not workers at private or even publicly-traded companies.
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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49570

      #3
      The wider issue is that owners who are greedy old cunts flush with money--and when I say flush, I mean record setting profits--are such ideological Scrooge-cunts that they try to fuck over refs for the pittance of a few million dollars relative to the integrity of the game and profits...

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      • BigBadBrian
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Jan 2004
        • 10625

        #4
        "Mainstream America has witnessed first hand what happens when unskilled scabs attempt to replace a union."

        OK, my bust: as of 2011, it's estimated that 11.8% of the US workforce are members of unions.

        FORD, are you saying the 88.2% of workers NOT in a union are sub-par because of lack of union membership?
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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 59658

          #5
          Originally posted by BigBadBrian
          So what percentage of skilled workers in America belong to a union? Less than 10%, correct?

          And the Wisconsin thing...it was unions for govt employees that was at issue, not workers at private or even publicly-traded companies.
          And the decrease in the number of unions just happens to run parallel to the decline of goddamn near everything else in this country over the last 30 years.

          You think government sucks now? Just imagine how bad it would be if there were a bunch of minimum wage SCABS populating every office.
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          • BigBadBrian
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Jan 2004
            • 10625

            #6
            Originally posted by Nickdfresh
            The wider issue is that owners who are greedy old cunts flush with money--and when I say flush, I mean record setting profits--are such ideological Scrooge-cunts that they try to fuck over refs for the pittance of a few million dollars relative to the integrity of the game and profits...
            '
            So how do we "fix" that pesky little problem called capitalism, Nick? Shall we "redistribute" the earnings of these teams? How would that work...afterall, the teams, more specifically the owners, own the league privately.
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            • hambon4lif
              Crazy Ass Mofo
              • Jun 2004
              • 2810

              #7
              Originally posted by FORD
              In the matter of a few short weeks, Mainstream America has witnessed first hand what happens when unskilled scabs attempt to replace a union.

              Think about this next time you hear union bashing bullshit coming from the right wing.

              Sad that the irony of all this will probably be lost on the KKKoch funded union hating politicians from Wisconsin like Scott Walker and Eddie Munster, who were among those screaming the loudest to bring the REAL refs back after the Monday night game.
              No matter what those panzies say to manipulate the masses, when a 16 million dollar shift happens in Vegas over one weekend (something that's never happened before), they have to stop and rethink their rhetoric.

              Especially Walker and Munster and folks of that ilk. They nuzzle up the nutsacks of the rich and call them 'constituents'. The very last thing they'd want to do is to disturb the moneyflow.

              Fuckin' whores!!!

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 59658

                #8
                Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                "Mainstream America has witnessed first hand what happens when unskilled scabs attempt to replace a union."

                OK, my bust: as of 2011, it's estimated that 11.8% of the US workforce are members of unions.

                FORD, are you saying the 88.2% of workers NOT in a union are sub-par because of lack of union membership?
                I'm saying if you look at any industry that once was dominated by unions but now is dominated by foreign slave labor, or some other cheap labor scab source, there is a noticeable decline in quality. Just like there was in the recent football games.

                I'm saying (along with everything else destroyed in this country over the last 30 years) that this country was much stronger when the majority of people were employed in living wage, union jobs.
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                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49570

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                  '
                  So how do we "fix" that pesky little problem called capitalism, Nick? Shall we "redistribute" the earnings of these teams? How would that work...afterall, the teams, more specifically the owners, own the league privately.
                  What does capitalism have to do with paying your workers their worth? The league already "redistributes" earnings IIRC via the TV contract. Secondly, there is one team that isn't owned "privately," the Green Bay Packers aren't the other owners have forbidden a team from having shareholders again...

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                  • BigBadBrian
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10625

                    #10
                    Originally posted by FORD
                    And the decrease in the number of unions just happens to run parallel to the decline of goddamn near everything else in this country over the last 30 years.
                    Yeah, and over-regulation and the hog-tying of business, particularly small business, didn't play a part, among other things, did it? Union membership has only decreased slightly in the period you specify.

                    During the peak of union membership, during WWII, only one-third of the US workforce were union members.
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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 59658

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                      '
                      So how do we "fix" that pesky little problem called capitalism, Nick? Shall we "redistribute" the earnings of these teams? How would that work...afterall, the teams, more specifically the owners, own the league privately.
                      Well, you have to appreciate the irony that it was a Packers game that called attention to the issue, since they are the obvious exception to the typical greedy NFL team owner.
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                      • BigBadBrian
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 10625

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                        the Green Bay Packers aren't the other owners have forbidden a team from having shareholders again...
                        Actually, the Packers ARE privately owned. They just happen to have more owners than the other teams. The notion that the Packers are owned by the people of Green Bay is nonsense.
                        “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49570

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                          Actually, the Packers ARE privately owned. They just happen to have more owners than the other teams. The notion that the Packers are owned by the people of Green Bay is nonsense.
                          You're retarded:

                          The Green Bay Packers are an American football team based in Green Bay, Wisconsin. They are members of the North Division of the National Football Conference (NFC) in the National Football League (NFL). Green Bay is the third-oldest franchise in the NFL, having been organized and playing in 1919.[5] The Packers are the only non-profit, community-owned major league professional sports team in the United States.


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                          • BigBadBrian
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 10625

                            #14
                            Originally posted by FORD
                            I'm saying if you look at any industry that once was dominated by unions but now is dominated by foreign slave labor, or some other cheap labor scab source, there is a noticeable decline in quality. Just like there was in the recent football games.
                            So you admit: it was a matter of training, not union membership.
                            .
                            I'm saying (along with everything else destroyed in this country over the last 30 years) that this country was much stronger when the majority of people were employed in living wage, union jobs.
                            Statistics don't bear that out.
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                            • BigBadBrian
                              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10625

                              #15
                              Wikipedia:

                              Next thing you'll do is quote al-jazeera on US Foreign policy.
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