Obama's Latest Gaffe: "We Don't Believe Anybody is Entitled to Success...." [Archive]

sadaist

10-06-2012, 12:41 PM

Generally I do not agree with the nonsense that Obama spits out.

But...I get what he is saying here.

Entitlement versus working for it...

You are NOT entitled to success. You are entitled to the freedom to have a shot at it.

That's my original thoughts. But as I sit here I think....are we, or any human anywhere, "entitled" to anything? WTF? When you're born you aren't even entitled to air which is why the doctor, midwife, birth coach, mother has to get you crying to start breathing on your own.

So let me rephrase...you aren't entitled to anything, but by being an American living on a foundation paved by the blood of heroes, you have the "freedom" to pursue success.

Nickdfresh

10-06-2012, 01:09 PM

So basically Obama is right and only mindless numbnuts looking for bullshit, partisan trip-ups believe this is a "gaffe?"

jhale667

10-06-2012, 01:23 PM

How exactly is that a "gaffe"? He's right. :rolleyes:

hambon4lif

10-06-2012, 01:39 PM

How exactly is that a "gaffe"? He's right. :rolleyes:"gaffe" is just a word that Brie saw on one of those political forums that he steals shit from and was dying to use...
....I doubt that he even knows what it means.
Even though his heroes crank them out by the dozens and it's rubber-stamped on his fucking birth cerificate.

sadaist

10-06-2012, 02:44 PM

MUSICMANN

10-06-2012, 02:48 PM

FORD

10-06-2012, 03:02 PM

Actually that is a gaffe on Obama's part. Everyone in this country has a right or a claim to success. This is just a different version of the " You own a Business, You didn't build that" quote.

You mean it's a quote taken entirely out of context, and twisted to mean pretty much the opposite of what he actually said?

Now you want to talk "entitlements", how about Bishop Mittens and his wife Queen Anne? They're the ones going around saying how "It's OUR turn".

Mittens is just Chimpy without the alcoholism.... another spoiled rich inheritance brat bully who never worked an Elohim damned day in his life, yet feels that he has to prove himself to his daddy, by doing something his daddy couldn't do. He literally thinks he's "entitled" to be President. And probably believes that Elohim and Joe Smith have decreed him to be the one to fulfill the "White Horse prophecy".

No wonder Poppy and Babs love the douchebag. He might as well be one of their own.....

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/yyrFu8Rq34W0pExnE_QDTg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/theticket/romney-bush-41.jpg

BigBadBrian

10-06-2012, 03:08 PM

It's just a soundbite to be taken out of context...
Just the same as the 47% stuff.

OUT OF CONTEXT!!! Ding ding ding ding...we have a winner here. Exactly my point. Someone "gets it."

I doubt if if you'll get a Democrat to admit Romney's 47% percent remark was about those that firmly had their minds made up for Obama, however. You won't get them to admit his quote was being portrayed out of context. He probably didn't use the best selection of words, but most intelligent people knew what he meant. Let it be their boy Barry, however, and they whine and scream to the high heavens.

Romney was correct, there are 47% of the voters who are going to vote for Obama no matter what. Just as there is a % of Republicans that will vote for Romney no matter what. We all know all the campaigning, TV commercials, fund raiser, and enormous amounts of money are all aimed at the less than 10% that can swing either way.

Exactly. Democrats and Republicans are firm in their vote by now, for the most part. The battle is over those on the fence...just like in every election.

Just like Limbaugs "I want him to fail". he wanted the liberal policies he viewed as socialist to fail to be implemented. But it made for good out of context soundbites. Both sides do it. It's sad because candidates can't ever really speak what they feel and their real ideas or speak off the cuff because every single work is scrutinized way too much.

It'll be even worse in the next few weeks. Biden will probably be good for a couple of stupid statements in the next few weeks.

BigBadBrian

10-06-2012, 03:11 PM

Actually that is a gaffe on Obama's part. Everyone in this country has a right or a claim to success. This is just a different version of the " You own a Business, You didn't build that" quote.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entitled

Didn't think of it that way, but you're right. "Allowed" and "permitted" after all are synonyms of "entitled."

FORD

10-06-2012, 03:16 PM

It's just a soundbite to be taken out of context...

Just the same as the 47% stuff. Romney was correct, there are 47% of the voters who are going to vote for Obama no matter what. Just as there is a % of Republicans that will vote for Romney no matter what. We all know all the campaigning, TV commercials, fund raiser, and enormous amounts of money are all aimed at the less than 10% that can swing either way.

Except that's NOT what Mittens was saying in that clip. He was saying WHY that 47% would vote for Obama, and what he was saying was a bunch of elitist scumbag Randtard bullshit right out of "Atlas Shitted". Basically that half the country are "useless leeches" living off the "beautiful people" like the fictional John Galt, the BCE, and himself.

Just like Limbaugs "I want him to fail". he wanted the liberal policies he viewed as socialist to fail to be implemented. But it made for good out of context soundbites. Both sides do it. It's sad because candidates can't ever really speak what they feel and their real ideas or speak off the cuff because every single work is scrutinized way too much.

Mush wanted Obama to fail, because he (Mush Limpdick) would not have a career otherwise. The OxyMoron really had to struggle to stay on the air while Chimpy was in the White House, because there wasn't much he could bitch about. But he got a brand new multi-million dollar contract literally days after Obama was elected. Mush would never admit this on the air, of course, but he wants Obama re-elected. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he voted for him. Because if we had a Bain Crapalloveritall/KKKoch Brothers/BCE presidency with a teabagger Congress, Mush would have nothing left to bitch about, and his ratings would tank.

You know it's true :biggrin:

MUSICMANN

10-06-2012, 03:18 PM

You mean it's a quote taken entirely out of context, and twisted to mean pretty much the opposite of what he actually said?

Now you want to talk "entitlements", how about Bishop Mittens and his wife Queen Anne? They're the ones going around saying how "It's OUR turn".

Mittens is just Chimpy without the alcoholism.... another spoiled rich inheritance brat bully who never worked an Elohim damned day in his life, yet feels that he has to prove himself to his daddy, by doing something his daddy couldn't do. He literally thinks he's "entitled" to be President. And probably believes that Elohim and Joe Smith have decreed him to be the one to fulfill the "White Horse prophecy".

No wonder Poppy and Babs love the douchebag. He might as well be one of their own.....

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/yyrFu8Rq34W0pExnE_QDTg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/theticket/romney-bush-41.jpg

You seem to know how to write, but do you know how to read. Everyone in this country by law is entitled to success and to put their name in the hat and try and become President if they choose. Obama is playing class warfare games again. He is trying to say that everyone not in the middle or below is the top evil people in this country. What he doesn't understand is that, those that have stuck their necks out and put their nuts on the chopping block to start and work a business into a success, are the job creators in this country. When was the last time a person living under a bridge offered anyone a job. He wants everyone sucking off the government tit, so he can have total control over everything and everyone. In the last 4 yrs, he has managed to put a 4th of this country on welfare and food stamps. Another 4 more yrs and that total will go up to over half. Once people get something for free and become dependent, it is the first step toward losing freedom. Do you really want less freedom and more intrusive government?

BigBadBrian

10-06-2012, 03:29 PM

Basically that half the country are "useless leeches" living off the "beautiful people" like the fictional John Galt, the BCE, and himself.

I firmly believe there SHOULD be a threshold of people who shouldn't pay taxes, such as a family of four only making $20K or those people in similar financial situations.

For all others, if you don't pay taxes or you get a full refund, YOU ARE "useless leeches" living off the "beautiful people" like the fictional John Galt, the BCE, and others who pay income tax. If you don't pay income taxes, YOU ARE part of the problem.

sadaist

10-06-2012, 05:52 PM

Everyone in this country has a right or a claim to success.

i disagree. We have a right to 'pursue' success. Success is not guaranteed nor a right.

sadaist

10-06-2012, 05:55 PM

Mush would have nothing left to bitch about...

You know it's true :biggrin:

Dude I swear to God, if you listen to Rush for 60 minutes he maybe talks 24 of those (if that). The other 36+ minutes is news breaks, commercials, and Rush himself talking about & pushing sponsors. Especially worse now with his two-if-by-tea thing he started with his wife. It's ridiculous. Then the 24 minutes he actually talks, a lot of it is catching people up on what he said during his last 6 minute segment.

What I'm saying is he barely has anything to talk about now.

FORD

10-06-2012, 06:00 PM

Sadly, that's true of ALL talk radio. Far too many commercials. You get about 7 minutes between commercial breaks, which would average out to 28 minutes per hour of actual program. But in Limpdick's case, I don't even think he could fill that much time if the Repukes were in charge of everything and he had nothing to complain about.

jhale667

10-06-2012, 07:07 PM

i disagree. We have a right to 'pursue' success. Success is not guaranteed nor a right.

This. MulletMann doesn't understand the "free market" thing, he just knows Mush and Hannity say it's cool. ;)
No one is guaranteed success. Everyone should have the opportunity to pursue it. Which is exactly what the POTUS (correctly) stated. But boy are the haters quick to jump on it.

motherchicken

10-06-2012, 07:24 PM

FORD

10-06-2012, 07:59 PM

Ford
Why do you have such a hatred for people who were lucky enough to inherit wealth? What's wrong with someone wanting their children to have the good things in life that maybe they didn't have when they were children? Why should the government have any claim on your money when you die? Try not to include footwear in your answer if possible.

If you take a look at the people who have fucked up the country for the last 30 years, you see a lot of names like Bush, Romney, Rockefeller, Forbes, Koch, and Walton popping up behind all of it.

What do all those names have in common?

Inheritance rich leeches who pay little or no tax at all thanks to the BCE tax cuts of Reagan and Chimpy.

What have these lazy, never worked a day in their life shit for brains done with all of that money and power?

Made the world easier for THEM, and worse for the rest of it.

Now if that wasn't reason enough, how did their great great grandfathers make the money that they're living on? For most of them it was the oil industry. And if you think that's honest money, then you are truly delusional.

Of course in two cases, the source of the fortune is far more sinister - the BCE profiting from Hitler, and the KKKochs from Stalin. Now those are some damn proud legacies to leave your kids.

Of course there is an exception to every rule..... which in this case would be the Kennedys. While the reasons given for the prohibition of alcohol were weak at best, and completely fucking retarded, at worst, it was still "illegal" to make or distribute the stuff at the time, and Joe Kennedy made a decent pile of money doing so, which he left to his kids. But I would have to say Jack, Bobby, Teddy, and Eunice more than made up for it.

So see, not ALL inherited wealth is evil. But the good guys seem to be in the minority.

vh rides again

10-06-2012, 08:19 PM

If you take a look at the people who have fucked up the country for the last 30 years, you see a lot of names like Bush, Romney, Rockefeller, Forbes, Koch, and Walton popping up behind all of it.

What do all those names have in common?

Inheritance rich leeches who pay little or no tax at all thanks to the BCE tax cuts of Reagan and Chimpy.

What have these lazy, never worked a day in their life shit for brains done with all of that money and power?

Made the world easier for THEM, and worse for the rest of it.

Now if that wasn't reason enough, how did their great great grandfathers make the money that they're living on? For most of them it was the oil industry. And if you think that's honest money, then you are truly delusional.

Of course in two cases, the source of the fortune is far more sinister - the BCE profiting from Hitler, and the KKKochs from Stalin. Now those are some damn proud legacies to leave your kids.

Of course there is an exception to every rule..... which in this case would be the Kennedys. While the reasons given for the prohibition of alcohol were weak at best, and completely fucking retarded, at worst, it was still "illegal" to make or distribute the stuff at the time, and Joe Kennedy made a decent pile of money doing so, which he left to his kids. But I would have to say Jack, Bobby, Teddy, and Eunice more than made up for it.

So see, not ALL inherited wealth is evil. But the good guys seem to be in the minority.

Never worked a day in their life?

Everyone you named there probably averaged 12 hour work days or more.

Roth And Roll

FORD

10-06-2012, 08:37 PM

Never worked a day in their life?

Everyone you named there probably averaged 12 hour work days or more.

Roth And Roll

Seriously??

Paris Hilton, Chimpy Bush, Steve Forbes, and Willard Mittens Romney put in 12 hour days?

Sitting behind a desk plotting how to steal somebody else's money and/or livelihood doesn't count as work. I'd like to see those leeches put in a 12 hour day at some of the places I've worked. Or the place my dad retired from.

SunisinuS

10-06-2012, 09:30 PM

Vote your Sharia Law leaders back into power!

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sadaist

10-06-2012, 09:35 PM

Ford
Why do you have such a hatred for people who were lucky enough to inherit wealth? What's wrong with someone wanting their children to have the good things in life that maybe they didn't have when they were children? Why should the government have any claim on your money when you die? Try not to include footwear in your answer if possible.

The high school I attended had quite a few kids whose parents were some big time players. Owners of large companies that bared their name & such. These kids had brand new trucks with every lift kit, offroad package, oversize tires & rims, towing brand new jetskis, boats, etc. and in their 20's & 30's they took over the companies their parents built & most have run them into the ground. they don't understand a hard days work....err, should I say actual labor. Not knowing if they will have enough to eat next week.

And most of these kids I knew felt fully entitled and were jerks.

I don't mind people inheriting wealth. I just wish it was limited until they hit 30 or 35 or something so they had to get out there and fight like most people. that way they have a much better knowledge & respect of the lives they are playing chess with.

....and yes, I was absolutely jealous of the toys these kids had. But most of them were & still are jerks.

BigBadBrian

10-07-2012, 07:58 AM

Of course there is an exception to every rule..... which in this case would be the Kennedys. While the reasons given for the prohibition of alcohol were weak at best, and completely fucking retarded, at worst, it was still "illegal" to make or distribute the stuff at the time, and Joe Kennedy made a decent pile of money doing so, which he left to his kids. But I would have to say Jack, Bobby, Teddy, and Eunice more than made up for it.

FORD, your opinion of whether a law was right or wrong has no bearing on the fact that the Kennedy financial empire was built on bootlegging and murder, both crimes. Ambassador Joe was also a great enabler and admirer of Adolf Hitler himself. I won't hold it against the man, however, like you hold investments against P. Bush, because it was simply before WWII and the tragedy of human death and suffering that entailed could not have been known.

The Kennedy's made up for it, as you say, in partying and fucked up policies, you mean. The curse of the Kennedy family is actually a blessing for America. Thank God for B-24 Bombers that blow up unexpectedly, 6.5 mm Carcano Model 91/38 rifles, and narrow bridges at Chappaquiddick. :gulp:

Nickdfresh

10-07-2012, 10:10 AM

It's just a soundbite to be taken out of context...

Just the same as the 47% stuff. Romney was correct, there are 47% of the voters who are going to vote for Obama no matter what. ....

It's not at all the same and Romney's comments were not "a soundbite." They were recorded at a $50K-a-plate-dinner where he was pandering to rich assholes buying him off. And his comment is correct only if you don't know the facts like most of the 46% are retirees or are paying payroll taxes...

Nickdfresh

10-07-2012, 10:15 AM

I firmly believe there SHOULD be a threshold of people who shouldn't pay taxes, such as a family of four only making $20K or those people in similar financial situations.

For all others, if you don't pay taxes or you get a full refund, YOU ARE "useless leeches" living off the "beautiful people" like the fictional John Galt, the BCE, and others who pay income tax. If you don't pay income taxes, YOU ARE part of the problem.

Yeah, those useless little bastard children getting tax credits their parents use to feed them! Thanks for your Douchepassionate Conservatism, Brian...

Nickdfresh

10-07-2012, 10:22 AM

FORD, your opinion of whether a law was right or wrong has no bearing on the fact that the Kennedy financial empire was built on bootlegging and murder, both crimes. Ambassador Joe was also a great enabler and admirer of Adolf Hitler himself. I won't hold it against the man, however, like you hold investments against P. Bush, because it was simply before WWII and the tragedy of human death and suffering that entailed could not have been known.

The Kennedy's made up for it, as you say, in partying and fucked up policies, you mean. The curse of the Kennedy family is actually a blessing for America. Thank God for B-24 Bombers that blow up unexpectedly, 6.5 mm Carcano Model 91/38 rifles, and narrow bridges at Chappaquiddick. :gulp:

Huge, vast oversimplifications and partisan fuckwittery. We'll keep this in mind when you, as the pot, accuse Ford and Elvis of being conspiracy theory nut-kettles. Because most of what you just posted is clearly that. While Joe said some nice things about Adolph based on his typical Irish-linage-Anglo-phobia and his Isolationism from his hatred of WWI. But his son died while on a dangerous mission to convert old bombers to cruise missiles AFTER he had flown his minimum amount of missions entitling him to go home to a cushy instructor's job, against Nazi-Germany.

Usually it is terrorists like al Qaida that celebrate the deaths of courageous U.S. Naval officers volunteering for dangerous missions and heroic veterans. Why do you hate America? Cunt...

qikgts

10-07-2012, 06:01 PM

He sits on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.

Par for the course...

Hardrock69

10-08-2012, 03:45 AM

Usually it is terrorists like al Qaida that celebrate the deaths of courageous U.S. Naval officers volunteering for dangerous missions and heroic veterans. Why do you hate America? Cunt...

Because he is a Republican. A fairly stupid one, but the Republican Party platform is based upon destroying America and our way of life....in the guise of Fascist Right-Wing Christian Patriotism.....

Hardrock69

10-08-2012, 03:47 AM

Nobody is "entitled" to success.

You must work for it.

Everyone is "entitled" to the "opportunity" for success.

But nobody is entitled to success.

Anyone who thinks everyone is entitled to success is a brain-dead fucking idiot.

Stupid fucking morons.

motherchicken

10-08-2012, 08:44 PM

If you take a look at the people who have fucked up the country for the last 30 years, you see a lot of names like Bush, Romney, Rockefeller, Forbes, Koch, and Walton popping up behind all of it.

What do all those names have in common?

Inheritance rich leeches who pay little or no tax at all thanks to the BCE tax cuts of Reagan and Chimpy.

What have these lazy, never worked a day in their life shit for brains done with all of that money and power?

Made the world easier for THEM, and worse for the rest of it.

Now if that wasn't reason enough, how did their great great grandfathers make the money that they're living on? For most of them it was the oil industry. And if you think that's honest money, then you are truly delusional.

Of course in two cases, the source of the fortune is far more sinister - the BCE profiting from Hitler, and the KKKochs from Stalin. Now those are some damn proud legacies to leave your kids.

Of course there is an exception to every rule..... which in this case would be the Kennedys. While the reasons given for the prohibition of alcohol were weak at best, and completely fucking retarded, at worst, it was still "illegal" to make or distribute the stuff at the time, and Joe Kennedy made a decent pile of money doing so, which he left to his kids. But I would have to say Jack, Bobby, Teddy, and Eunice more than made up for it.

So see, not ALL inherited wealth is evil. But the good guys seem to be in the minority.
Wealth equals power. It don't matter where you get it. There's probably ten self made rich powerful mother fuckers out there fucking us right now to every one inheritence brat as you call them. And as far as Joe Kennedy goes, he was a fucking criminal who made a pile of cash who probably had people killed on a daily basis in the name of doing business. And there's a quite popular theory he promised orginized crime certain priviledges if they backed Jack over Nixon and when they didn't get what they paid for they had Jack executed. Considering one guy who might have known the truth about who and why was shot by a known associate of orginized crime that theory might be quite plauseable.

FORD

10-08-2012, 10:45 PM

SunisinuS

10-09-2012, 03:41 AM

Wealth equals power. It don't matter where you get it. There's probably ten self made rich powerful mother fuckers out there fucking us right now to every one inheritence brat as you call them. And as far as Joe Kennedy goes, he was a fucking criminal who made a pile of cash who probably had people killed on a daily basis in the name of doing business. And there's a quite popular theory he promised orginized crime certain priviledges if they backed Jack over Nixon and when they didn't get what they paid for they had Jack executed. Considering one guy who might have known the truth about who and why was shot by a known associate of orginized crime that theory might be quite plauseable.

Sandra Fluck is a whore. Sandra Fluke is a Fluke....and God Dammit Condoms should all be red white and non blue.

:clap:

Yount

10-09-2012, 05:07 AM

Success. Everybody's burning oil trying to be successful.

Nickdfresh

10-09-2012, 07:05 AM

If you were referring to Jack Ruby eliminating Oswald, then just remember that Ruby (real name Rubinstein) was an associate of Dick Nixon and the BCE all the way back to 1947.....

http://surftofind.com/rnixon232.jpg

Ford, Ruby was a big-mouthed, moronic wannabe who would do anything for attention according to just about everyone who knew him...

BigBadBrian

10-09-2012, 07:49 AM

Because he is a Republican. A fairly stupid one, but the Republican Party platform is based upon destroying America and our way of life....in the guise of Fascist Right-Wing Christian Patriotism.....

Break time is over...get back to work! You're burning the fries.

jhale667

10-09-2012, 10:38 AM

Break time is over...get back to work! You're burning the fries.

Said the guy (failing at) working the drive-thru window.

sadaist

10-09-2012, 10:57 AM

If you were referring to Jack Ruby eliminating Oswald, then just remember that Ruby (real name Rubinstein) was an associate of Dick Nixon and the BCE all the way back to 1947.....

God damn man. Do you look this stuff up for particular subjects we discuss here, or do you know all of this? Insane. So many of your posts like this are totally news to me. Then I google the more interesting ones & think "aww hell, that motherfucker is right". i guess I never really paid much attention to anything except what mass media feeds me.