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Hardrock69
10-13-2012, 05:13 PM
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/romney-china-stock-investments


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On the campaign trail, Mitt Romney rips President Obama's policy on China and talks tough against the rising global power. "We're going to crack down on China," he said at a recent event in Ohio. "They've stolen our jobs; that's gotta stop." But according to Romney's recent tax returns, between 2008 and 2011 Romney invested more than a half million dollars in the stocks of 10 Chinese companies—including firms that embezzled, partnered with Iran, and stole US intellectual property.

Through Romney's individual and family "blind" trusts—managed by his personal lawyer, R. Bradford Malt—the Romneys traded more than 25,000 shares in Chinese firms, including some based in Hong Kong. Some of these investments have previously been reported in the media and raised by the Obama campaign, but others have gone unnoticed. Overall, the stock investments netted the Romneys a profit of more than $90,000 in 2010 and 2011. (Some of the individual investments were losers.) While that sum is a pittance in light of the candidate's vast personal wealth, it represents a significant amount for ordinary working Americans. Romney has long invested in China, putting millions into Chinese firms back when he ran Bain Capital, as MoJo's DC bureau chief David Corn first exposed in several reports this summer.

Romney has said that he has no role in managing his personal investments; one of his aides told the Financial Times recently that Malt works "to make the investments in the blind trust conform to Governor Romney’s positions, and whenever it comes to his attention that there is something inconsistent, he ends the investment." But back in 1994 Romney himself said that blind trusts don't absolve an investor of responsibility: "The blind trust is an age old ruse, if you will, which is to say, you can always tell the blind trust what it can and cannot do. You give a blind trust rules."

Here are the investments in 10 Chinese companies revealed in tax returns for the W. Mitt Romney Blind Trust (2010 and 2011) and the Ann and Mitt Romney 1995 Family Trust (2010) and (2011):

Industrial and Commercial Bank of China

"Gov. Romney believes China should be labeled a currency manipulator," his spokeswoman said recently, "and he will move to label them as such on Day One." Yet the candidate invested in Industrial and Commercial Bank of China, the country's largest bank. Some experts say that China's central bank still exerts power over ICBC (which was privatized in 2005) to carry out the country's monetary policy. The Romneys invested in more than $80,000 worth of shares, ending with a loss of just over $5,500.

China Merchants Holdings International

The Romneys invested more than $78,000 in this Hong Kong-listed company, China's largest public port operator. Its parent company, China Merchants Group, is one of the longest-running state-run corporations in China. They sold the shares at a loss of about $6,500.

China Life Insurance

About a fifth of Romney's China profits came from China Life Insurance, the mainland's largest life insurer. In 2009, according to news reports, China's National Audit Office found that the firm had embezzled nearly $172 million—overstating sales, improperly settling claims, and lining executives' pockets with millions of yuan. The following year, the Romneys made more than $20,000 when they sold their shares.

China National Offshore Oil Corporation

The Romneys invested nearly $77,000 in China National Offshore Oil Corporation from 2009 to 2011—even as US sanctions called for divestment of companies that do business with Iran's energy sector, as CNOOC does. The Chinese oil giant's parent company is helping Iran develop the North Pars natural gas field in a deal estimated to be worth $16 billion. The Romneys sold their shares in CNOOC for a profit of more than $15,000.

New Oriental Education and Technology

Campaigning in Virginia recently, Romney said of Chinese companies: "They steal our technology, they hack into our computers—they also steal our know-how, our patents." But the Romneys also invested in New Oriental, a company infamous for stealing copyrighted exam questions from a US firm. In 2001, New Oriental was sued by Educational Testing Service for stealing and distributing proprietary test questions for admission to US universities. A Chinese court ordered New Oriental to pay over $1 million, a sum reportedly reduced in 2004 by Beijing's High Court. The Romneys made more than $20,000 from the nearly $60,000 they invested in New Oriental shares.

Youku.com and Tencent Holdings

Romney investments included two of China's internet giants: Tencent, the creator of the country's most popular chat program, and Youku, which some describe as China's YouTube. (The Romneys lost about $8,000 in Youku and a negligible amount in Tencent.) "If you're one of these Chinese internet companies, you factor in for your overhead and operating costs an entire division of people whose job it is to adhere to government censorship and surveillance requirements," says Rebecca MacKinnon, a former Beijing bureau chief for CNN. "Obviously foreign investment is paying for that."

Hang Lung Properties

A leading real estate developer in Hong Kong and mainland China, Hang Lung is now investing $8.5 billion on the mainland. The Romneys invested $43,300 and profited $22,600 when they sold their shares.

Hong Kong Exchanges and Clearing

The Romneys made their largest profit on the money they put into Hong Kong Exchanges and Clearing, the holding company for the Hong Kong Stock Exchange: $30,600, on an investment of approximately $38,800.

Li & Fung Limited

A labyrinthine supply chain manager for US companies including Toys R Us, Target, Walmart, and Timberland, Li & Fung has benefited from American outsourcing. In 2009, for example, Fashion company Liz Claiborne sold its manufacturing operations to Li & Fung Group for $83 million. The Romneys invested around $15,000 and made just over $1,000.

jhale667
10-13-2012, 07:57 PM
Oh yeah, between the Bain deals and Sheldon Adelson, you're just guaranteed he'll be tough on China... :doh:

FORD
10-13-2012, 08:08 PM
Not to mention that he and Bain are frequent business partners with the BCE's Carlyle Group, who also have billions tied up in China, and through Poppy's brother Prescott Jr, headed something called the "US-China Chamber of Commerce".

Mittens will be loyal to China, the Israeli Likud wackjobs, and Kolob, probably in that order. Not to the American people.

Nitro Express
10-13-2012, 08:43 PM
Obama is doing nothing about China. He's just saying things about it now because it's election time. Let's say Mitt is a total sellout on China. We gained nothing but probably lost nothing. Business as usual. The thing is ol Mitt and his wife are very active Mormons. Mormons don't like our jobs going to China. The only thing they want from China is to convert a bunch of them. LOL! Mitt and Ann will catch hell at church for not doing anything about China.

FORD
10-13-2012, 08:58 PM
If Mormons don't like jobs going to China, then isn't it about time they excommunicated Willard's treasonous ass for sending so many of them there?

Nitro Express
10-13-2012, 09:09 PM
If Mormons don't like jobs going to China, then isn't it about time they excommunicated Willard's treasonous ass for sending so many of them there?

Mormons don't work that way. They have very detailed systems and they follow them to the T. About the only things you can get excommunicated for is committing adultery or publicly going against the teachings of the church. You rarely get excommunicated for adultery anymore. My best friend's dad was banging his secretary and ran out on the mom and family. All the church did to him was take his temple recommend and tell him he couldn't take the sacrament. He was pretty well to do so I assume they didn't want to lose the tithing money. If you openly challenge the church they will excommunicate your ass in a heart beat. They don't like their authority being challenged.

If your tithing money is coming from selling us out to China, the church will be happy to take it. That being said, you still have to answer to Brother Jones and Brother Erikson who sit next to you in the high priest quorum why you sold them out. The church headquarters in Salt Lake is just another big corporation but the local ward you meet every Sunday and during the weekdays (Mormons have a ton of meetings) is a more cozy world. A very uncomfortable one if you fuck over your fellow church goers.

Hardrock69
10-13-2012, 10:34 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/romney-ryan-slam-obama-administration-china-currency-manipulation/story?id=17472397


Mittens policy is to attack Obama on China, trying to divert attention from his own treasonous activity:


Romney, Ryan Slam Obama Administration on China Trade Policies

By SHUSHANNAH WALSHE (@shushwalshe) and EMILY FRIEDMAN (@EmilyABC)
Oct. 13, 2012

The Romney-Ryan ticket came out swinging today at two separate campaign events, where the politicians blasted President Obama for delaying the release of a report that could label China a currency manipulator.

"I want to make sure that when people cheat, when they don't follow the rules in trade, we finally hold them accountable," Mitt Romney told a crowd of 3,000 who had gathered in Portsmouth, Ohio to hear him speak.

"You know the president, the president has an opportunity, had an opportunity, was required as of last Friday to officially designate whether China is a currency manipulator," Romney said, going on to explain that being a currency manipulator means that a country is "artificially" holding down the value of its currency so the products it sells are less expensive than those made in other countries, and so that American companies making the same products go out of business.

"And yet over the past several years, the President's failed to call China a currency manipulator," Romney said. "He had the occasion on Friday to come out with that official designation. Do you know what they said? We're not going to make any determination until after the election."

Romney was referring to a decision by the U.S. Treasury Department on Friday to postpone the Oct. 15 report deadline to allow for the meeting of finance ministers and central bankers from the G20 leading economies on Nov. 4 and 5, but it also avoids publishing the report before the election Nov. 6.

"Let me tell you, on day one of my administration I will label China a currency manipulator. We've got to get those jobs back and get trade to be fair," Romney said, repeating a promise he repeats nearly daily on the stump.

Vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan also slammed the Obama administration's handling of China today at an event at Youngstown University in Ohio.

"We've lost hundreds of thousands of jobs according to one study because of just this problem," Ryan said. "Two million jobs we've lost, according to the International Trade Commission, because of one country, China, taking our intellectual property rights, meaning taking our patents, taking our goods that we make and copying them and selling them -- that's not correct, that's not right, that's cheating."

The study Ryan is citing, from the U.S. International Trade Commission, actually says 2 million jobs could have been created, according to the Washington Post, not that they were lost.

Ryan campaign spokesman Michael Steel explained from their point of view, "A lost job is a lost job."

The GOP vice presidential nominee said his ticket will "do something about it" and "stop this kind of cheating from occurring."

Although, Romney has consistently portrayed the Obama administration as soft on China, George W. Bush planned to spend $17 billion on an initiative to try to limit China from stealing Pentagon technology, according to the same Washington Post article, and in May 2009 the Obama administration expanded on that program.

Two months later, Defense Secretary Robert Gates started a new U.S. Cyber Command to address threats to the Defense Department's computer networks.

The Obama campaign said it was incongruous for Ryan to criticize the president's record as being weak on China, when Romney criticized the administration for standing up to China, and with the record of Bain Capital, the private equity firm he ran.

"Congressman Ryan's tough rhetoric can't hide the fact that Mitt Romney will never crack down on China's cheating — just look at his record," a statement from Obama campaign spokesman Danny Kanner said.

"When President Obama stood up to China on behalf of American tire workers, Romney called it 'decidedly bad for the nation.' In the private sector, he led investments in companies that shipped American jobs to China, and in a Chinese company known for the cheating he condemns today.

"Now, experts say his tax plan could create as many as 800,000 jobs overseas, while independent economists agree his plans could slow our recovery and cost us American jobs," Kanner said. "A PowerPoint can't hide the simple truth: all Romney and Ryan are offering is the same failed policies that led to the crisis and punished middle class families in the first place."