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  • Hardrock69
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Feb 2005
    • 21833

    Italy To Tax Catholic Church Property



    Italy’s Catholic Church will be forced to pay taxes starting in 2013 after the EU pressured the country’s government to pass a controversial law stripping the Church of its historic property tax exemption.

    The Catholic Church in Italy is excluded from paying taxes on its land if at least a part of a Church property is used non-commercially – for instance, a chapel in a bed-and-breakfast. “The regulatory framework will be definite by January 1, 2013 – the start of the fiscal year – and will fully respect the [European] Community law,” Italian premier Mario Monti’s government said in a statement…

    The move could net Italy revenues of 500 million to 2 billion euros annually across the country, municipal government associations said. The extra income from previously exempt properties in Rome alone – including hotels, restaurants and sports centres – could reach 25.5 million euros a year…

    The measure came after the country’s leadership decided in February to alter Italy’s property tax code, ending the Church’s longstanding privileges due to the severe debt crisis.

    Last December, after new austerity measures were adopted in the country, 130,000 Italians signed an online petition urging the government to strip the Church of its tax exemption.

    “It was time that they paid, too, with all the exemptions they’ve had throughout the years,” Marco Catalano, a 35-year-old shopkeeper in Rome, told the New York Times in February, adding that he goes to church twice a month. “They own the most beautiful buildings in downtown Rome, on Italian soil, and rent them out at market prices…

    Overdue. Not only in Italy. Not only regarding the Catholic Church.

    Living in a nation with a constitution requiring separation of church and state, it is truly absurd that we still don’t collect property taxes, business taxes on the money-making, profit-generating properties owned by religious institutions.

  • Va Beach VH Fan
    ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
    • Dec 2003
    • 17913

    #2
    Wow.... That's pretty surprising, considering there's a church in Italy like every 12 feet....
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    • ELVIS
      Banned
      • Dec 2003
      • 44120

      #3
      The Catholic church needs to cough up a lot of money for a lot of bullshit...

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      • Va Beach VH Fan
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        • Dec 2003
        • 17913

        #4
        I'm all for making them pay property taxes, but there's so many clusterfucks in Congress nowadays, even raising the issue will bring everything else to a standstill....

        It would make the fiscal cliff debates look amateurish....
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        • ELVIS
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          • Dec 2003
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          #5
          Look amateurish ??

          It's a fucking joke!

          I hope we do go off the fiscal cliff for real...

          I hope it's so bad that the Federal government has to shut down indefinately and all of the current federal cocksuckers are out of a job...

          That's the only way the shit, err ship, will eventually be righted...

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          • Va Beach VH Fan
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            • Dec 2003
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            #6
            Originally posted by ELVIS
            Look amateurish ??

            It's a fucking joke!

            I hope we do go off the fiscal cliff for real...

            I hope it's so bad that the Federal government has to shut down indefinately and all of the current federal cocksuckers are out of a job...

            That's the only way the shit, err ship, will eventually be righted...

            Yeah, but the point I was making is if any President (assume that would be a Democrat) would propose to start collecting property taxes on ALL churches (not just Catholic), it would put nearly everything else on the back burner....
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            • ELVIS
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              • Dec 2003
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              #7
              I don't really see why any churches are tax exempt...

              I think they should pay taxes and hold political rallies as they see fit...

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              • DLR Bridge
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                • Mar 2011
                • 5470

                #8
                I had heard recently that the Catholic church owns 3/4 of Manhattan. Is that tax free? Whacky.

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                • BigBadBrian
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                  • Jan 2004
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
                  Yeah, but the point I was making is if any President (assume that would be a Democrat) would propose to start collecting property taxes on ALL churches (not just Catholic), it would put nearly everything else on the back burner....
                  If that's the case, would you also propose that all other charities are taxed as well?
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                  • ELVIS
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                    • Dec 2003
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                    #10
                    A church isn't a charity...

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                    • envy_me
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                      • Dec 2010
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                      If that's the case, would you also propose that all other charities are taxed as well?
                      Church is a business, or as in the case with catholics it's maffia.
                      The heart is on the left. The blood is red.

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                      • ELVIS
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                        • Dec 2003
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                        #12
                        The Catholic Church is a government...

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                        • envy_me
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                          • Dec 2010
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by ELVIS
                          The Catholic Church is a government...
                          In Italy?
                          The heart is on the left. The blood is red.

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                          • Va Beach VH Fan
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                            • Dec 2003
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                            If that's the case, would you also propose that all other charities are taxed as well?
                            The churches are PROPERTY owners just like every other homeowner or business, and therefore should be paying PROPERTY taxes IMO.....
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                            "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

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                            • envy_me
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                              • Dec 2010
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
                              The churches are PROPERTY owners just like every other homeowner or business, and therefore should be paying PROPERTY taxes IMO.....
                              Even business taxes. How much do they make per mass? That's a service they sell. Empty the collection and tax.
                              The heart is on the left. The blood is red.

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