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Rikk

02-12-2013, 02:23 PM

Sorry if this is a dupe...

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/q-a-david-lee-roth-vents-about-van-halens-future-20130212

Q&A: David Lee Roth Vents About Van Halen's Future
'Our story is one of a whole lotta Shakespeare going on'

By STEVE BALTIN
February 12, 2013 1:55 PM ET

David Lee Roth is unquestionably one of the most colorful and dynamic frontmen in the history of rock music – and that extends to his epic interviews as well. Diamond Dave may not say much these days, but when he decides to open up, very little is off limits.

Last week Roth, who is doing a new Internet radio show called The Roth Show and was involved in the White Noise remix of the Van Halen smash "Jump," opened up in a big way to Rolling Stone. Speaking by phone for over an hour from his new home in Tokyo, Roth spoke about a musical he recently wrote with Marilyn Manson and Rob Zombie guitarist John 5, his interest in remixing classic songs as "floor" (the term he coined for dance music) and, of course, Van Halen.

The frontman expressed a lot of frustration at lack of movement within the band, both in writing new material and expanded touring. "I’m not sure what’s in Ed’s mind at this point," Roth says of guitarist Eddie Van Halen. "Truth be told, Edward and I haven’t written a new song in 20 years." He also expressed interest in taking Van Halen to festivals like Coachella and Lollapalooza – provided, of course, that the rest of the band agrees. Adds Roth, "There’s nothing on the ticket as far as [touring past this summer], and that’s a disappointment, frankly." Read on for more from our exclusive Q&A.

What brought you to Tokyo?
A lifetime of growing up next to a Japanese neighborhood. First time I held a Japanese sword in my hand, I think I was nine years old, 10 years old. Here now I train four times a week with a fellow who's a professional instructor and I go to school every day of the week – I'm in school two and four hours variously in Japanese. I've never had an issue with changing my geography, perhaps to jolt my mind or my creative forces, or my fighting spirit. The first three months were challenging, I'm not gonna kid you. I came by myself and without knowing the language or anybody here, and cut to today, we have the Tokyo Dome show coming up, the Van Halen brothers and I, and I have more guests here than I had at Madison Square Garden. We sold out the Garden twice last February. I have close to 200 friends and family, all of them I know by first name, coming to each of the shows, so it's exploded. And creatively it has had a really resounding impact on me. I have an apartment and I've been here since last May, actually – wow. I love the United States. I have not given up my New York City apartment or my tomb with a view in Pasadena – I understand the sprinklers are all working perfectly. But I don't have any real plans anytime soon, until it's time to talk about The Roth Show, which, again, is an international flavor. We launched that about four months ago, but I broadcast from here and, the miracle of everything, we shoot the show here and wherever I go. And I'll be heading to New York, I'll do a month there.

Let's talk about the creative influence being there has had on you.
It's across the board. Here you can't join a specific neighborhood. In the United States you can put on a cowboy hat and join the country-western neighborhood. If you're down below 14th Street in New York City, that's bohemian, that's left-wing. I was just speaking to my Uncle Manny, God bless him – he's 93 years old – and we were discussing some of the controversy involving our remix of the song "Jump," and he laughed and said, "You're kidding. Bob Dylan just picked up an electric guitar." You can't have neighborhoods like that here. There's no one particular neighborhood. I shared with Al Van Halen, who I speak with every morning here, "I understand there's some controversy following the remix idea," which indeed was Alex's. Alex had heard Elton John had taken his greatest hits and had it remixed and turned into "floor," I call it. [People] get confused between disco, house, trance and rave, so I call it floor.

I said to Al, "I heard of some fellows named White Noise out of San Francisco." I subscribe to Beatport, where all the DJs of the world do file sharing and look over each other's shoulders in 82 languages. And they did a smashing version of "Jump." This is not a new idea. I'm not gonna say I did this first. There are four different versions of "Jump" that are floor that are easily as good, if not better, but this one is the most modern. So we got something that is well in line with our attitude, our core of larcenous sense of humor and let's-take-a-left-hand-turn-now-and-then. We've had great success with it already. Alex and I were laughing that anybody cares at all, much less there's a rallying cry or whatever. You just don't change the smile on the Mona Lisa? Well, the fuck you don't.

So will there be more Van Halen remixes?
I spoke to Al earlier and I said, "We gotta license this so we can get it up on Beatport. We can put it on iTunes and reach that audience." In some senses of the word any controversy that follows Van Halen is akin to asking the country-western crowd, "What do you think of old Michael Jackson?" And then being surprised at the reaction. We have a core audience who is devout, just as any religion or political faction or any kind of long-term rock group has, but we have the capacity to play and to revise and have a whole lot of celebrative fun with a lot of other neighborhoods as opposed to just the lead, bass and drum gang. The brothers and I have a considerable amount of classic music training. When we write songs they almost demand revision and interpretation, as does any great material. I was always loving it when Aztec Camera would take a shot at something that we do or any of the aforementioned.

How will this experimental energy manifest in possible new Van Halen material?
I would certainly look forward to working with Ed on some new material, but we have yet to do that. Almost all of the music that you hear on our most recent album was written and demoed before the first album. And I would certainly look forward to writing a whole list of songs with Ed, but we haven't found the time to do that [laughs]. You hear the tone. I'm not sure what's in Ed's mind at this point. I'm gonna guess that his plans are to write with his son, and I'm not sure where that actually leads. But truth be told, Edward and I haven't written a new song in 20 years.

The Tokyo dates are coming up. Will there be more after that?
There's nothing on the ticket as far as travel, and that's a disappointment, frankly. How long have I been back with the gang? Maybe six years, we'll say and we have yet to travel to Europe, South America, Japan, anywhere outside of those basic 50 cities in the United States. And again that's been a disappointment. We have an audience and we have a potential future in many, many places, but our story is one of a whole lotta Shakespeare going on. And I don't know where the Van Halen future lies aside from the States. We'll always be able to play our hits – and keep in mind we have more hits than Beethoven, we have more hits than Tony Soprano – so getting onstage and playing that is glorious, and certainly getting onstage with the brothers will always be an excitement for me. But in terms of taking the music past where we found it, I'm not sure where that's going to go.
And in the interim I've written and recorded an entire album of material with a fellow named John 5. It's called Somewhere Over the Rainbow Bar & Grill, and it was designed as a jukebox musical after seeing what the South Park fellows did. Those fellows are ardent Van Halen fans – they're been to Vegas and L.A. variously on the last tour. I saw the play and went home and we started putting together what I guess is called a jukebox musical, but it's not particular to Van Halen. Indeed we can create Van Halen material as the interstitials, but we have 15 songs ready to go, and it's my story. Indiana kid goes to the big city, sells his soul to the devil. Whatever Lola wants, Lola gets Dave. It's knockout stuff.

The "Jump" remix is part of an approach I wanted to take of, "What if we take a specific song and update it both in terms of time period and neighborhood, and you use that throughout the play?" The way "Jump" sounds originally is very different than the way it sounds on this latest version. You can turn it country, you can make it a very sad song. I was also thinking to take this material to one of our finer filmmakers and see if the whole package might be used. That being said, it's not heavy metal, and no, it's not dance music. It's R&B-based, a lot of B3 [organ] and a lot of girl-friendly . . . It's rock, but think early Rod Stewart, perhaps, arguably the best years, [or] "Tumbling Dice" if you're thinking in terms of classic. So who knows where that's gonna go.

But Ed has his own vision, I'm assuming. We haven't really been able to speak about it and it's a disappointment, just as not having a chance for a reunion of the original band. Clearly, vocals are every bit as much a component of success as a rhythm section or a guitar solo, and there's an old expression saying, "They don't go home singing the lighting show, they don't go home singing the production." You're right, they sing my words and my melodies. And what we have at our fingertips is arguably one of the greatest high tenor voices ever – that was in Michael Anthony. In our tiny little corner of the universe, that voice is as identifiable as the high voice in Earth, Wind & Fire, as identifiable as the high voice in the Beach Boys. Van Halen is an indelicate house blend of both – that's intentionally. So I would always look forward to that reunion, and I would always look forward to writing a whole variety of material. I've offered the fellows, come on out here to the land of the gods. And if you don't want to make it that far we'll make it halfway – Konishiki [his friend and former champion sumo wrestler] has said he'll lend me his house in Hawaii, Let's go woodshed. But so far there hasn't been any response, so hope and faith are not actual tactics and strategies – they're strippers from Albuquerque.

[B]Let's focus on the positive first. Would you want to take those 15 songs with John to the stage?
Absolutely. That's what it's aimed at. It's autobiographic. "Somewhere Over the Rainbow Bar & Grill" is the opening theme song, and it's about an Indiana kid who goes to sleep – think The Wizard Of Oz – and the characters in his life, the butcher, the baker and the newspaper guy, pop out of posters and sing him a song called "Giddyup." And he finds his way to all the good things in life, having discovered rock in the Sixties, and there's a song titled "Alligator Pants" – yes, I own a pair, I wore them for the last two tours. And things go horribly left-of-center wrong, of course, when you sell your soul to the devil, and one of the tunes is called "The Shit That Killed Elvis." So yeah, it's pretty stellar material. Again, I've offered it up to the Van Halens, but I seriously doubt there are going to be any takers there. As I've said, we haven't written a new song since I left in 1984. Almost everything on that record [A Different Kind of Truth] is from before we recorded the first album or out or about somewhere in that time frame. Wait, what am I saying? "Stay Frosty" is brand new, and I wrote that whole song myself. I wrote the chord structure, played the guitar, the vocals, etc. Therein that was remanded to the back side – well, it's not a record anymore, side B, next to the last of whatever. It's an update, thinking symmetrically – "Ice Cream Man," "Stay Frosty," I get it [laughs].

You clearly have a lot you want to do individually. Where will this go for you?
Well, I was just on the phone yesterday with John, and we're now beginning to explore what that means. It's been a year since our last tour with Van Halen. There's virtually no impact or contact in terms of writing new material, and given that I don't have the opportunity to work with original material I invented a whole new website show, Tokyo Hi-Power Style and all the music you hear there is my personal collection. That's all floor, and it's kind of talk radio but with that kind of a musical background, and half of it is in Japanese.

That's heavy lifting, conducting recording sessions completely in Japanese. So I'm pursuing with a vengeance. I went to the Sumo tournament with Konishiki as my teacher, and we went not only to the tournament, but we went to the beya, which is the gym. And we had what in music is called an encounter, question and answer, back and forth. And I asked them, "What inspires you? What compels you?" And variously one would say, "I do not want to dishonor my parents." Another said, "I would like to be a great champion." We went around the circle, and one of them said to me, "Dave-san, what inspires you?" I said, "Fear and revenge." They asked, "Revenge against who?" I said, "People who have a whole lot more talent than I do and then threw it away. Sometimes friends of ours have Maserati-style talent and they treat it like a fucking lawn mower." And they all laughed.

I said, "Then there are folks who have lived much faster and got much farther down the track. Now my wristwatch seems to be moving forward faster and my knees seem to be going slower." Everybody sort of nodded. It's revenge against my wristwatch. And fear that I might not have all the time that I wish I could in order to do what's in my imagination. I don't think what I'm imagining is preposterous. I don't think what I'm imagining is undoable at all. Maybe I'm audacious, but I can't really even smell it. Let's get after this, like Grandma Roth said. I'm furious to beat the clock here. And whether or not I do last to 93, I want to live a life well-lived. And I do it with a sense of humor. I brought up something in an interview with one of the magazines here in Tokyo. I said, "I wish Bon Jovi would've given me a call before he recorded all of his hits, because the lyrics would've been smarter, the melodies would've been much more smashing, and they would've sold a lot fewer records." Fighting spirit, Steve-san. It's a goddamn war every day in the music business in one faction or another. I have a taste for that. I like conflict, and I can admit that now. "Come on, let's get after this. Where's the next war, guys?"

What is there left to accomplish that you still want to do musically?
I don't know that it's so much to accomplish as it is to get with a team or a group, to get with other folks and have an idea and a vision and to be busy all the time. My favorite expression of Andy Warhol's was, "I think to be busy is the best thing in life." And I can heartily agree now and just get on horseback, and if you have to change your direction in momentum, so much better than sitting and thinking about and deciding and not even going. For me, 60 is the new 80. You oughta see my X-rays. So get going, start heading north. And whether we accomplish anything or not becomes beside the point. The goal is to get with somebody and get with a group or team or a squad and get going on something that everybody's contributing to. I believe in that for me, probably for most folks, more than ever. You might be surprised to hear that from somebody – when you say lead singer, you think that's a solitary vision, a self-centric kind of positioning. "How many lead singers does it take to put in a light bulb? One. You're supposed to hold the bulb and let the world revolve around you." As achingly true as that might have been periodically in my life, I can follow just as good as lead. But I do want to be on that boat.

Would you want to work with another group of musicians?
Certainly, absolutely, and we can sit here for another hour and go through the list. It doesn't matter the kind of music, it doesn't matter whether it's a cowboy hat or a yarmulke. I don't care if it's outer space or pop, the spirit is the same. There are only so many letters in the alphabet. When I talk to young musicians or authors and they ask for advice, I say, "You gotta learn all the letters of your own personal alphabet. With music, you need to know all the different kinds of music and everything in and around your given instrument." They say, "Well, why would I want to learn somebody else's alphabet?" "Son, you're not gonna invent any new letters in the alphabet, but if you do learn all of them and you can start creating words with them, well, last I looked, the Bible is written in the identical alphabet as all of my favorite pornography. At least you can make an informed choice." [Laughs] Which way is the porn store?

It will be very interesting to see what happens with all of these merging interests you have. You mentioned Coachella. Would we ever see Van Halen on that type of stage?
Alex and I have been begging to become part of that, and Glastonbury and Reading and Hyde Park. We keep being shuttled into the heavy metal world, and that's a very exclusive neighborhood, but here we are – we're back knocking on the doors begging for Bonnaroo and begging for Lollapalooza and Coachella, not even as an advancement of career, but there's a whole new audience who doesn't know and doesn't give a shit about Van Halen, and that's exactly the best audience to sharpen your spirit on. That will compel you to the very best that you have. I can't wait for those opportunities and wish us well. We've been asking for those shows since I've gotten back with the band six years ago, and I'll be very curious to see where we wind up come next season.

Guitar Shark

02-12-2013, 02:33 PM

That's kind of a depressing article. Good to see you, though, Rikk.

cadaverdog

02-12-2013, 02:35 PM

Sounds like the end for Van Halen.

DLR Bridge

02-12-2013, 02:39 PM

Rikk, I read your extremely well done and convincing 'Sammy Hagar is dead' piece of faux journalism a few weeks ago.

Please tell me you've struck again.

ThrillsNSpills

02-12-2013, 02:40 PM

and yet, Wolf said they had a second album's worth of material demo'd....

VHscraps

02-12-2013, 02:40 PM

Interesting ...

Next thing - wouldn't be surprised if MA will get this thrown at him by a host of journos in light of Dave's comments: DLR wants you back in the band.

Wonder how Ed'll take this.

FORD

02-12-2013, 02:49 PM

Well we (the hard core fanatical bootleg collecting fans of this band) obviously knew that SOME of ADKOT was "recycled" material from the old days, and some from the slightly less than old days (Blood and Fire being straight out of 1985) but I suspect Dave is over-generalizing here just a little bit. There's no way in Hell that China Town or HoneyBabySweetyDoll - just to name two- were written in any capacity in the years of 1973 - 1985.

All the same though, not a very optimistic take on the status of the band from Diamond Dave :(

sadaist

02-12-2013, 02:49 PM

Jukebox musical? Sounds about as good idea as bluegrass, radio show, Las vegas show, ....

But, whatever makes Dave happy. Dudes given plenty to me & I won't slam him for what he decides to give to himself. I just hope for more Van Halen music & shows.

And yet again it seems as you-know-who is the BIG problem and holding everyone else up/back.

DLR Bridge

02-12-2013, 02:51 PM

Why is Dave saying they haven't written any new songs in 20 years? He's already said that ADKOT was 1/3 new songs and 2/3 reworked.

This thread is going to be at 5 or 6 pages by 11 PM tonight, I'll bet.

sadaist

02-12-2013, 02:51 PM

I suspect Dave is over-generalizing here just a little bit. There's no way in Hell that China Town or HoneyBabySweetyDoll - just to name two- were written in any capacity in the years of 1973 - 1985.

agree 100%

Dave tends to do that. We get the gist of what he was saying. But I took away from it that maybe Dave wrote some new stuff....Eddie wrote some new stuff.....but they didn't sit together & write anything new together.

Zing!

02-12-2013, 02:53 PM

If that's fake he nailed Dave's mannerisms. Damn, that is both interesting and depressing as hell...

DLR Bridge

02-12-2013, 02:56 PM

If that's fake he nailed Dave's mannerisms. Damn, that is both interesting and depressing as hell...

Yeah, I was pretty much grasping at the 'fake' angle. This sure sounds like Dave to me.

Rikk

02-12-2013, 03:01 PM

Rikk, I read your extremely well done and convincing 'Sammy Hagar is dead' piece of faux journalism a few weeks ago.

Please tell me you've struck again.

I wish I could say I wrote this. Yep, pretty depressing.

Rikk

02-12-2013, 03:03 PM

I'm afraid it's legit.....as legit as a Rolling Stone artice can be anyway....the article is up on their webpage.

That's what the link was for, Columbo.

Rikk

02-12-2013, 03:04 PM

Sounds just like Dave and Ted templeman banging on Ed's door trying to record new tunes circa 1985 all over again.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

Nitro Express

02-12-2013, 03:12 PM

I think Ed is done with it to be honest. Vallerie Bertinelli said the only reason the last tour happened was Ed wanted to play on stage with Wolfie and that was the only reason. She said other than doing that he had no motivation to go on the road and was pretty much done with it. I don't think Ed Van Halen makes big long-term plans and kind of is in his own world. He leaves everyone hanging. I have the gut feeling Ed isn't going to go out on the road anymore. I think Val was right. He did his thing with Wolf and Wolf seems to be doing his thing with younger bands.

Va Beach VH Fan

02-12-2013, 03:13 PM

I dunno, I'm gonna say my glass is half full after reading that....

But I have to say, I find it refreshing that Dave talked so much about Mike....

THAT'S the true reunion people want to see....

Matt White

02-12-2013, 03:14 PM

Coyote

02-12-2013, 03:16 PM

Damn, that is both interesting and depressing as hell...

Couldn't have said it better...

Nitro Express

02-12-2013, 03:28 PM

"It's a good thing Ed is rich because he would be in real trouble if he wasn't." --Sammy Hagar--

big fatty

02-12-2013, 03:34 PM

Fuck.

sadaist

02-12-2013, 04:01 PM

Know David Lee Roth - Know Rat Salad

no David Lee Roth - No Rat Salad

jhale667

02-12-2013, 04:03 PM

Interesting that Al's totally on board with the Coachella/Lalapalooza angle...

Guitar Shark

02-12-2013, 04:05 PM

STELLAR Stuff my friend!

I...for one...think its a KICK ASS interview....people have bagged on DAVE ever since getting back with the VAN HALEN's for not speaking his mind....

YOU GOT IT YOU MUTHAS!!!

DAVE wants Mike back! FUCK YEAH.....I found a bunch of things that make me think of this "reunion" in a more positive light.....

DAVE wants EVH to be EDDIE FUCKING VAN HALEN again, & get out there and KICK ASS!!!

The problem with this is that what Dave wants is completely unrealistic given the current state of the band. I also didn't see any mention in the interview of Eddie's recent health scare, so in some ways this could turn into another rehash of the "Tonight's about me, not your fucking hip" fiasco. Hopefully not. But I hear what you are saying.

For the record, EVH was EDDIE FUCKING VAN HALEN on the last tour.

Va Beach VH Fan

02-12-2013, 04:06 PM

Va Beach VH Fan

02-12-2013, 04:07 PM

Interesting that Al's totally on board with the Coachella/Lalapalooza angle...

Absolutely...

Show those pinheads what a REAL rock show is....

Rikk

02-12-2013, 04:17 PM

Edward Van Halen has deep psychological problems.

That much is apparent.

Big Brother probably doesn't push him more because he doesn't want to make things worse for his flesh and blood. Shit, they don't need the money...especially not after the reunion tours.

Watching how Dave, Michael and even Sammy act concerning Ed reminds me of how some of my friends and I acted with a friend of mine 'bout ten years ago who had mental problems. We switched back and forth between optimism, nostalgia, impatience (and patience) and downright rage.

jhale667

02-12-2013, 04:18 PM

Absolutely...

Show those pinheads what a REAL rock show is....

My thoughts exacty... most of my 20-something friends have NO idea what a real one is.

VHscraps

02-12-2013, 04:25 PM

This was at least encouraging....

I think there's a bit of a sentence or more missing there ... THAT could put a totally different slant on the pessimism.

What the heck did he share with Al Van Halen!! (Apart from Al's first wife ...)

fraroc

02-12-2013, 04:27 PM

I really don't forsee anything happening to VH until after the Japan/Australia tour in the summer. Eddie Van Halen said HIMSELF that he'll be making music until the day he dies.

If and GOD FUCKING FORBID This is a buildup for a 2014 Van Hagar reunion, then I'm sorry but Eddie's a fucking idiot for making that decision. Why would Ed want to put himself in the same position he was back in 2004? Sammy fucking abused Eddie that entire tour with his lack of personal support for his drinking problem and using a name of a song that Sam and Eddie wrote TOGETHER (Cabo Wabo) and used make money selling fucking tequila.

I'm sorry, but if VH dosen't still have Dave in the band by 2014, they should just quit while they're on top.

Nitro Express

02-12-2013, 04:32 PM

Green Manalishi

02-12-2013, 04:43 PM

I tell ya what I get outta that interview :
Dave is anxious , possibly a bit frustrated , and brimming with motivation and creativity . The Van Halens ( Edward ) are content to sit and stagnate . In so many words , Dave said the proverbial Van Halen is still relevant clock is ticking . At some point , it's gonna be way too late and all this potential for new Van Halen music is gonna go by the wayside . Meanwhile , David Lee Roth in all his restlessness , is gonna take his creative toys and go play elsewhere .

Guitar Shark

02-12-2013, 04:51 PM

Hardrock69

02-12-2013, 05:02 PM

Watching how Dave, Michael and even Sammy act concerning Ed reminds me of how some of my friends and I acted with a friend of mine 'bout ten years ago who had mental problems. We switched back and forth between optimism, nostalgia, impatience (and patience) and downright rage.

I have been watching a friend of mine here in Nashville go down the tubes over the past 5 years.
He is obsessed with a certain guitar hero (not Ed), to the point where his reputation in this town is like "Yeah, he's the guy who does nothing but play (insert guitar hero name here) covers". He is so obsessed with this guitar hero, nobody wants to hire him, and people (including yours truly) cannot stand to be around him very long, because he talks about almost nothing else. He is definitely bipolar, won't seek treatment, but is otherwise a great guy with a lot of cool stories to tell.

Mental illness is no fun. For the person with it, nor the people around him/her.

Hardrock69

02-12-2013, 05:06 PM

Zing!

02-12-2013, 05:37 PM

Just hope DLR doesn't tell Ed "this isn't about your diverticulitis. No one wants to hear about your fucking diverticulitis!"

ToraToraTora

02-12-2013, 05:38 PM

Fuck, Fuckity, Fuck Fuck. I think Eddie's shit might hit the fan over this little phone call.... But being the mature, charming, easy going musical genius that Eddie is, I'm sure everything will be fine, Won't it?

Fuck, Fuckity Fuck Fuck

lesfunk

02-12-2013, 05:39 PM

Why is Dave saying they haven't written any new songs in 20 years? He's already said that ADKOT was 1/3 new songs and 2/3 reworked.

maybe he wrote them with Wolf

lesfunk

02-12-2013, 05:41 PM

" Sometimes friends of ours have Maserati-style talent and they treat it like a fucking lawn mower." I wonder who Dave is referring to?

chi-town324

02-12-2013, 05:42 PM

however you want to interpret what Dave is saying, it's not good news for the current Van Halen lineup.. we all want one more album ..one more U.S tour, but it may never happen.

envy_me

02-12-2013, 05:47 PM

however you want to interpret what Dave is saying, it's not good news for the current Van Halen lineup.. we all want one more album ..one more U.S tour, but it may never happen.

You misspelled Europe :D

clarathecarrot

02-12-2013, 06:01 PM

TJMKID

02-12-2013, 06:08 PM

Ed is not "stagnating". He just underwent serious surgery not too long ago, and should definitely be relaxing.

I figure the plan is for them not to do anything until the Aussie/Japan tour dates, and by that time they will have made plans for whatever happens afterwards.

Here is the thing: It is going to get to a point (I feel) where they only way they are going to be able to stay on top is to get Mikey back. Interest in the current lineup will wain, Wolfy will find his own way and go off and do his own thing, the public will start to yawn with their short attention-spans.

Getting Mikey back will be the last chance at creating a ruckus in the public eye.

I have to agree that a REAL VH reunion with Mike is about the only cash cow EVH has left in the bag at this point. Outside of his accountant, no one really knows how much cash Ed or Al have in their bank accounts and that is the real determinant factor about how much more "new" VH material & tours we get from this point forward. It's common knowledge they only rejoined with McHaggis in 2004 because Ed and Al were both bankrupted by costly divorces (if you believe what Sambo wrote in his book).

I sorta halfway believe Valerie's statement that ADKOT & tour were only because Ed wanted to jam with Wolfie --- but I still think Ed's retirement fund is what motivates him. For all we know, he might have a shitload of money generated from the last 2 tours + music equipment branding to last him until death and that's why he's not interested in any new music with Dave. EVH hasnt really produced a full album of new music since 1998 and even then his creative spark had vanished like a fart in the wind. The last original decent stuff he made was "Humans Being" in 1995 --- 18 fucking years ago!

I think this RS article may be the death knell for any future tours or projects with Dave. This sort of brash talk is what got Sobolewski booted from the band --- doesnt sit well with "You cant be in two bands, man" frame of mind that EVH always dictated to his non-family subordinates. Dave did a creepishly good job of laying low from 2008-2011 and not giving any interviews about the future of VH and that's what Eddie likes. But now this RS article might open a can of worms that EVH will snowball into another "you always wanted to be a solo artist, so go back to being one, Dave" type of dismissal.

Oh well --- 2 great reunion tours and a new CVH album is nothing to sneeze at. It's more than I would've predicted in 2005 when all hope seemed lost.

Thanks for the memories, Roth Van Halen --- you had a great ride (1978 to 2013).

:smiley-sniffer:

riggodrill44

02-12-2013, 06:45 PM

... a whole lotta Shakespeare going on.

fraroc

02-12-2013, 07:09 PM

Alex and I have been begging to become part of that, and Glastonbury and Reading and Hyde Park. We keep being shuttled into the heavy metal world, and that's a very exclusive neighborhood, but here we are – we're back knocking on the doors begging for Bonnaroo and begging for Lollapalooza and Coachella, not even as an advancement of career, but there's a whole new audience who doesn't know and doesn't give a shit about Van Halen, and that's exactly the best audience to sharpen your spirit on. That will compel you to the very best that you have. I can't wait for those opportunities and wish us well. We've been asking for those shows since I've gotten back with the band six years ago, and I'll be very curious to see where we wind up come next season.

As much as you guys are posting depressing shit about "RIP VH 1978-2013" This statement tells me that the door hasn't closed on the Van Halen saga yet.

ELVIS

02-12-2013, 07:21 PM

Dave doesn't want the door to close is what I got out of it...

To me, this article is Dave relaying to Edward to shit or get off the pot...

He submitted his material from his project with John 5 to the Van Halens with apparently no bite...

So, what should Dave do, wait for Edwad ??

Or play the fair circuit with Lowery ??

Girth

02-12-2013, 07:41 PM

I believe that Eddie is finally sober (for awhile now) and will realize that Dave is still his hyper old self and will let this slide. I truly believe that Dave, Al, and Ed know what they have together and know that they can produce revenue when they want. Dave didn't bash them, but was just being truthful about the past year and how it frustrates him that they aren't playing or writing more.

I do not feel this is the end of VH as we know it.

What I am wondering about is the "big surprise" or "something big" comment about early this year -which is now. What was being referenced at that time that couldn't be discussed further?

No doom and gloom here - just honesty that I think is finally appreciated by the bro's now.

Girth

VAiN

02-12-2013, 08:02 PM

Dave doesn't want the door to close is what I got out of it...

To me, this article is Dave relaying to Edward to shit or get off the pot...

Basically this..

There was an interview with Dave about 10 years ago, I think, where he spoke of time being wasted. I get the same feel from this interview. He wants to go-go-go and I can't fault him for realizing time is limited. I believe it was Classic Rock magazine? If anyone has that I'd love to a link..

VHscraps

02-12-2013, 08:22 PM

Hardrock69

02-12-2013, 08:29 PM

Note his comments about "You should see my x-rays".

I think he is VERY aware of time slipping away.

But as even HE said a couple of times......and we have all known this for decades, Uncle Dave does not like to let the grass grow beneath his feet.

sonrisa salvaje

02-12-2013, 08:40 PM

So, what should Dave do, wait for Edwad ??

Or play the fair circuit with Lowery ??

I think Dave should do what he wants to do. I read back in 2010 that Dave was worth about 40 Million at that time. I'm sure the last tour didn't hurt his bank account. I admire him for not wanting to rest on what they have done and draw a pay day whenever Ed feels like rolling out. If he wants to make new music and it meant playing clubs again who gives a shit?

Terry

02-12-2013, 08:42 PM

Ed's got a lotta physical ailments. Sad thing is, he's at a stage of life where odds are the best he can hope for is to retain what he has left. At the beginning of 2012 when Roth was extrapolating on how the ADKOT tour was gonna take the band through all of 2012 and beyond, well, as much as I would have liked to have seen that happen I wouldn't have wagered money on it: Roth and the Van Halens aren't spring chickens.

I'd imagine it must be frustrating for Dave to think that he's been working with the band for 6 1/2 years now and all that has transpired are two tours and an album that relied heavily on reworked old demos. In some ways, it must be like Chinese water torture for him when considering the amount of stuff Roth did between 1996 and 2006: regardless of the commerical success of the ventures, one can't say Dave wasn't active.

It is encouraging to read that Roth is still open to (in fact, advocating) Mike Anthony's return to the band. At least Dave still gets the notion that, as good as what the band has done with Wolfgang is (and I'll give the kid credit), one has to believe that a large number of fans still want to see the CVH lineup working again...even if it is just for one last hurrah...be it an album, a tour or both.

But the band (to throw out an overused phrase) is what it is now. While one would hope that Ed is just recovering physically and the hiatus is temporary, it could well be that Ed is mentally somewhere else/not on the same page as Dave in terms of where Van Halen goes from here.

Hey, if it's all done, so be it. This band created some of my favorite rock music. There's no point for me to lament time misused or things they could have done "if only". As a fan, I'm at a place where win, lose or draw re: the future, I'm cool with whatever.

Zing!

02-12-2013, 08:44 PM

Lots going on in my head after reading that D-Ro interview - so bear with me as this may be all over the place. One: I admire Dave's energy and his passion to be creative, to always be learning. He seems to be the eternal student - always wanting to expand his knowledge and explore his territory. This was quite honestly the best interview I've read from Dave in probably the last decade, if not longer. Full of fire and pulling no punches, our man made it clear that he's never going to be content resting on his laurels waiting for Edward. And while I applaud his frankness in this matter, I can't help but see some synchronicity with 1985, and again in 1996. Am I reading to much into the past here? Most definitely. But then again, here is a band that never seems to learn from their mistakes.

Two: Michael Anthony. I mean... Holy Jack Daniels! I didn't see that coming. I never thought DLR gave MA a second thought, particularly now that Wolfie appears to be a permanent fixture in the band. While I wholeheartedly agree with his sentiment (bringing Michael back, if not for a new album then at least for a guest appearance on a future tour) is a smart move financially and may provide the catalyst for a proper 'farewell' tour, since it seems that is the direction Ed is heading anyway. I'm thrilled that Dave made his feelings known about this as it is a bit of closure that is near and dear to true Van Halen fans - but I'm also shocked and apprehensive that Dave made his feelings known about this. With Wolfie being the key band member in this discussion - any wrong move could bring the wrath of Ed, and like I said - this band never seems to learn from its mistakes...

Three: Alex Van Halen. Good buddies with Dave? Talking on the phone every day? Wanting to bring Van Halen to a new generation of fans? My gut feeling on this is great - love to hear this. But I also think Al's main focus with Van Halen has got to be his brother's health. I think that no matter how Al feels about the future of the band, he will always defer to Ed. And who knows - Ed may have said, I don't want to tour again. The temptation to take a drink is too great. I've been sober for too long to screw this up now. I'd rather not tour and stay clean than risk falling off the wagon . Of course, this is all just speculation on my part - but bottom line is: Al is going to take care of his little brother (the 2004 train wreck illustrates perfectly why forcing a tour when Ed is not mentally stable is not a good idea). If nothing else, I feel that an open line of dialogue between Dave and Al may lead to the vaults being open someday and some of those classic live performances finally seeing the light of day.

Four: A Jukebox Musical? We've all heard of Dave's John 5 project - but a musical? And yet - in the grand scheme of all things DLR - it seems to make perfect sense. What the hell. Why not? I'd go see it. Probably buy the soundtrack too. Again - this gives me deja-vu of Diamond Dave getting restless back in the mid 80's waiting for Ed and wanting to keep himself busy. I'll say this: the guy never ceases to amaze me. His interests are varied and wide, and he's never been satisfied with the status quo (hence his 'heavy metal' comment regarding the band being pigeonholed into a category when it comes to playing to a younger crowd at festivals).

Five: Hope. My immediate reaction to this article was: "VH is fucked." What can I say - we probably all feel a little gun-shy with this stuff considering Van Halen's history of self destruction. However, I do have a certain degree of hope. A bit of optimism if you will. While I am immensely grateful for 'A Different Kind of Truth' - which itself is the most incredible swan song a band could ever have - I can't help but feel the 2012 tour was not the farewell David Lee Roth was hoping for. I'll be the first to admit it: Dave was the weak link on that tour and didn't always sound the greatest. I think he could do better. I think he wants to do better. I think he knows in his heart that selling out MSG for two nights in New York is not going to happen on his own, and he's not quite ready to give up that rush. A proper tour in which they're all 85% healthy (because lets face it - at their age they're never going to be 100% healthy) and possibly adding Michael Anthony in the mix seems like the best way to draw the kind of crowd Dave is aiming for. Plus they haven't played the Super Bowl yet - so they can't break up!

When the dust has cleared from this interview, I'm hoping to see... something. What I don't want to hear is: No news is good news. I don't want silence. I don't want Ed pouting down in 5150 that "Dave is just being Dave and I can't work with the guy." I'm hoping for baby steps - like Wolfie finishing up his commitment to Tremonti. Like Ed fully recovering from his latest surgery. Like Van Halen playing their shows in Japan. They seemed to be on such a roll in 2012 - I'm hoping Dave's Rolling Stone interview is simply the start of something amazing in 2013 and beyond.

We have to hope. We're Van Halen fans. It's what we do.

Stay Frosty.

sonrisa salvaje

02-12-2013, 08:44 PM

What I am wondering about is the "big surprise" or "something big" comment about early this year -which is now. What was being referenced at that time that couldn't be discussed further?

No doom and gloom here - just honesty that I think is finally appreciated by the bro's now.

Girth

I'm afraid that is the new box set with no extra tracks.

vh rides again

02-12-2013, 09:07 PM

mh5150

02-12-2013, 09:16 PM

Hasnt wrote new stuff with EVH in 20 years?
Stay Frosty ????
Wasn't that just in The Roth Show ?
As Scooby Doo would say " Rut Roh Shaggy"...

Junglestud

02-12-2013, 09:19 PM

you know what, Wolfgang is young and should be running with the younger crowd (and players) of his age. Michael Anthony should be back in the band but if not no biggie. Dave said there is no bigger joy then playing with the brothers, so he's not pissed at Edward, Dave just wants to play and have fun. I'm glad Alex and Dave talk all the time, I'm glad he asked them to all get together in Hawaii (but I guess Edward didn't want to). I love that Dave has worked with John 5, who I think is (at this time) a better player then Edward (no disrespect), also Rob Zombie & Marylin Manson are in this project with Dave & John. They will (Van Halen) play again together but I just think things will be different and for the good.

Va Beach VH Fan

02-12-2013, 09:24 PM

Hasnt wrote new stuff with EVH in 20 years?
Stay Frosty ????
Wasn't that just in The Roth Show ?
As Scooby Doo would say " Rut Roh Shaggy"...

He corrected himself in the article....

SunisinuS

02-12-2013, 09:29 PM

God Dammit.

:argh:

Fuck they couldn't wait until they wrote at least one more fuckin' album.

Next: Eddie: The lead singer want's to make a movie (a musical). Alex: I will egg him on like in 96'. Eddie, Van Halen is now a 3 piece...with Tremonti on Guest lead vocals (he is my soul mate). Dave becomes Liberace.

:doh:

Guess you were right Palin': That hopey changey thing didn't work out for me.

vh rides again

02-12-2013, 09:37 PM

Hasnt wrote new stuff with EVH in 20 years?
Stay Frosty ????
Wasn't that just in The Roth Show ?
As Scooby Doo would say " Rut Roh Shaggy"...

He wrote all of it, the words and the music, Ed didn't contribute.

fifth element

02-12-2013, 09:39 PM

Am hoping that things have simply slowed down a bit (due to Eddies health, lifestyle)
and that things are not over for good.

Just hope they do not try to wait another 10-12 years......:nono:

DLR Bridge

02-12-2013, 09:53 PM

The déjà vu thing is a bit crazy, when you think of it. John 5 is Vai this time around. Rainbow Bar & Grill is the Crazy From The Heat movie this time around.

The new key player to all of this is the Internet. Back in the '80s, trouble took it's sweet time brewing in cheesy metal mag rumors and MTV hype. These days, every remark hits everyone's eyes and ears immediately and draws instant ire and almost equally instant retaliation. What does Ed think about this latest interview? I'll bet we're gonna know soon enough.

I'd like to think Ed will atleast understand where Dave is coming from regarding the bulk of this, but I fear he may be set off by the manner in which it was done. Dave used the word "disappointment" atleast 3 times. That could yield a retort along the lines of "nobody's holding holding you hostage. If you're unhappy, there's the door." That would surely suck.

atlantakat

02-12-2013, 09:56 PM

Well, we waited for over five years for DLR to tell us what was really going on with the band.

Now we know.

Coyote

02-12-2013, 09:58 PM

"Sometimes friends of ours have Maserati-style talent and they treat it like a fucking lawn mower."

I really hate those moments when you're reading an article and that one single phrase just pops out, encapsulating your present point in life perfectly, while delivering a swift kick right in the nuts...

big fatty

02-12-2013, 09:58 PM

I like what Dave had to say.

To tell ya the truth, I'm tired of all their bullshit.
I have 7 great albums from them, I can't decide which one i want to listen too more .

Fuck Eddie vanhalen , he's a lazy fucking snob, I hope he has fun smokin meth for the rest of his life up in his mansion, I couldn't care less.

FUCK YOU.

You little cocksucking piece of shit GOOF.

Eddie was sick and in the hospital. Maybe he has depression or doesn't feel like doing anything this year. He ROCKED the FUCKING SHIT outta VH less than a year ago, and some snivelling little internet puke like you chooses to mouth off . FUCK YOU and evryone else just like you.

Eddie was right about the internet. Too many fucking critics mouthing off. Fuck off.

Nitro Express

02-12-2013, 10:01 PM

VAiN

02-12-2013, 10:01 PM

Think it might be this - 'Gripes of Roth', by James Halbert:

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?3399-Interview-w-DLR-The-Gripes-Of-Roth (http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?3399-Interview-w-DLR-The-Gripes-Of-Roth)

Yes!! Thank you!

DLR Bridge

02-12-2013, 10:02 PM

As far as the 'their not getting any younger' angle, they're always gonna be younger than Cheap Trick who's always gonna be younger than the Rolling Stones. Ailments or none, these guys are far from geriatric. Sadly, it's the time wasting Dave has always spoke of that is their greatest enemy.

fraroc

02-12-2013, 10:31 PM

Heater

02-12-2013, 10:34 PM

Yeah, the world needs a bunch of CVH songs retooled into dance music. Dave must be thinking how auto-tune might be just the ticket he needs. Getting MA back would certainly make Daves shitty live vocals a bit easier to take as it seems he wants one more stab at glory. Andrew Dice Clay always talks about selling out the Garden 2 nights in a row, you know, resting on his laurels. Now DRo is doing the same? And now a musical? C'mon Dave, give us a break. A little of you goes a long way. Maybe Ed isnt ready to deal with all that again.

DLR Bridge

02-12-2013, 10:36 PM

Basically this..

There was an interview with Dave about 10 years ago, I think, where he spoke of time being wasted. I get the same feel from this interview. He wants to go-go-go and I can't fault him for realizing time is limited. I believe it was Classic Rock magazine? If anyone has that I'd love to a link..

That is a great interview.

DLR: We were always disagreeing, we were always at each other's throats about what was the appropriate thing to do, but it was that belligerent, confrontational chemistry that created the music you grew up to. When the guys became relaxed and comfortable with Sam Hagar it was lost. But it doesn't need to be lost forever. I actually consider that chemistry to be a positive force, one that could bode well for the future. We could pick up the gauntlet tomorrow. I'm completely up for that; always have been.

Now, Dave just needs to be careful with that gauntlet.

vh rides again

02-12-2013, 10:39 PM

FUCK YOU.

You little cocksucking piece of shit GOOF.

Eddie was sick and in the hospital. Maybe he has depression or doesn't feel like doing anything this year. He ROCKED the FUCKING SHIT outta VH less than a year ago, and some snivelling little internet puke like you chooses to mouth off . FUCK YOU and evryone else just like you.

Eddie was right about the internet. Too many fucking critics mouthing off. Fuck off.

This is obviously your first time around with the vanhalen saga.

This is 1985 all over again, almost note for note

If you think Eddie vanhalen is sitting up in his house waiting to get well enough to record a new album, your a dumb fuck.
Dave's remark about a lawn mower is a bullseye. Eddie vanhalen is a waste of space up in the Cali hills, he should go rent a fucking shack somewhere like the unibomber.
Eddie vanhalen gave a half assed attempt at a new album, all he did was listen to some 35 year old demos and learn how to play them again so he could rape you of 135 bucks at a concert .
He's a lazy fucking asshole that doesn't give a shit about anything .

He's probably tearing his house to pieces over what Dave said at this moment.

Vanhalen was done in 85, get over it.

ELVIS

02-12-2013, 10:40 PM

I'll be the first to admit it: Dave was the weak link on that tour

I think I was the first...

Hardrock69

02-12-2013, 10:40 PM

I am tired of it as well. I got 7 great albums. Got to see 3/4 VH again.

If they imploded tomorrow I would be fine with it.

BITEYOASS

02-12-2013, 10:41 PM

Frankly, I would prefer the EEAS band to get back together as oppose to waiting on Eddie. It would be a hell of a lot more productive, that's for damn sure.

ELVIS

02-12-2013, 10:41 PM

your a dumb fuck.

The Army jokes just write themselves...

78/84 guy

02-12-2013, 11:04 PM

I think it's a honest look into what Dave is thinking. I don't have much of a problem with the guy stating that hey we are not getting any younger here. If we are going to do a album of new stuff, and play some gigs let's get the show on the road ! That's what I got out of it. He didn't mention Ed's health but it wasn't brought up by the interviewer. This guy has never sat still ! Why would he now ? He wants too work. I think he gave hints he is willing to move on without Van Halen if the wait is too long. At the same time he brings up talking to Al every day and the Japan shows in a few months so...........I have no problem with him bringing up Mike. It was a class move by Dave. I don't take it as him disrespecting Wolf at all. It looks like from all the videos I have watched from the 2 tours he interacts with the kid alot on stage. He just thinks Mike should be up there instead. Ed might not like it but that's Ed. He doesn't seem like a reasonable guy to me. I mean fuck how cold for Mike to not even get a call from Ed saying hey man I want to play with my kid. But thanks for everything over the years. Not to mention trying to erase him for the artwork on their website ! That was pathetic ! As far as the Jump thing I couldn't care less. I don't think the original is much of a Van Halen song so if they want to fuck with it to get it played in clubs for the next 20 years so what. Now if he wants to fuck with Unchained I might have to say come on Dave give me a fucking break ! But Dave rules. He can do what he wants. I personally want him in Van Halen. But an active Van Halen !

SunisinuS

02-12-2013, 11:24 PM

Although Honest he could have done it equally Honest. He could have said....I tell Eddie Van Halen every day if you want to write new music...give me absolutely no sign.

If you want me to go ahead and start making new music while you take a time out, give me absolutely no sign.

78/84 guy

02-12-2013, 11:32 PM

Well I have to say to Dave. Hey Dave if you want to know what the hell Ed is thinking fucking call him ! How hard is that ? I mean he is talking to Al daily it sounds like. At their age if Dave needs to go through Al to try and fiqure out what Ed is up to give me a break ! Kind of silly at this point. Even with all the Van Halan antics over the years/decades. Not that I would want to talk to that miserable guy !

TJMKID

02-12-2013, 11:35 PM

I'd like to think Ed will atleast understand where Dave is coming from regarding the bulk of this, but I fear he may be set off by the manner in which it was done. Dave used the word "disappointment" atleast 3 times. That could yield a retort along the lines of "nobody's holding holding you hostage. If you're unhappy, there's the door." That would surely suck.

This Dave article is starting to remind me of how 1996 went down --- Samborita getting pissed about being jerked around by the VH sisters --- EVH responding with "There's no I in team, Sam" and then before you know it, Ed is calling up Haggis and telling him "You jerk, you never do what I say, you liked being a solo artist, so you might as well go back to being one". I think Eddie's financial situation was pretty decent in '96 and he figured either getting Dave back or hiring a new singer would still be a viable way to generate millions for his piggy bank, so dump the Ched Head like dirty laundry and be done with that headache.

2013 could unfold the same way. EVH is living off the interest on the millions he earned from the last 2 tours and now he's not afraid to tell Dave to take a hike if he bad-mouths him in the media and doesn't want to be a "team player" (ie, writing an album with John 5). I think the idea that Dave wants Mike back to replace Wolfgang is probably burning a new hole in Eddie's colon. How dare Dave not respect Wolfie the Saviour? Ed is likely already thinking about calling Sambo up for a Van Haggard reunion tour in 2014 for a quickie $50 million cash grab and why the hell not get Sobolewski back for cheap if it helps sell tickets? Wolfie could be "backup bassist" and still be the Saviour. It all makes sense now. Dem wheels are spinning inside the brilliant pea brain of EVH.

:shagsheep:

jhale667

02-12-2013, 11:46 PM

also Rob Zombie & Marylin Manson are in this project with Dave & John.

No - that's who else John 5 has played for...

78/84 guy

02-12-2013, 11:51 PM

I don't think he disrespected anyone. Not even Wolf. Ed might not see it that way. Your right there. Really the only thing that confused me in the interview was Dave saying he hasn't written a new song with Ed since 84 ? Were did China Town, Honeybaby & As Is come from then ? And the interviewer did nothing to correct Dave or ask.

Hardrock69

02-13-2013, 12:24 AM

dave_is_vh

02-13-2013, 12:28 AM

Here is an idea for Ed - bring back Mike AND keep Wolf in the band. Rather than playing bass Wolf could play keyboards and rhythm guitar.

I think it all depends on Ed's health and bank account. If he is healthy and wants to add to his bank account they will continue. If not they won't.

TJMKID

02-13-2013, 01:06 AM

Really the only thing that confused me in the interview was Dave saying he hasn't written a new song with Ed since 84 ? Were did China Town, Honeybaby & As Is come from then ? And the interviewer did nothing to correct Dave or ask.

Dave often speaks symbolically --- I think he was trying to convey the main premise that ADKOT is mostly reworked old demos. I would bet Dave went to Ed during the down time of 2008-2011 with a lot of ideas --- some good, some wacky --- and EVH probably responded with --- "Look Dave, let's just touch up some of our club hits and take the path of least resistance for a new album. No need to reinvent the wheel, dude. I'm only doing this project because I wanna jam with my kid".

Truth be told --- no Roth-era album was ever completely "new" music --- most were comprised of touch-ups from their lengthy catalog of tunes they battle tested onstage during the So-Cal club circuit years.

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 06:02 AM

I really did not see anything negative in what Dave was saying. If Ed gets irritated by any of it, then he is being unreasonable.

But then, decades of alcoholism and years of possible crack/meth usage can do that to someone.

I don't think he was being unreasonable either, but what is a bit of a problem is that this is apparently the best way Dave can communicate with Ed. A tell-all with Rolling Stone?

I'm just saying, if Dave feels this is his best option for getting his thoughts across to a guy he's known since '72, that's not a good sign.

In any case, it's all business as usual for us. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 06:09 AM

In any case, it's all business as usual for us. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

...with regards to the band Van Halen's future that is. I know I can always enjoy another Dave solo project. What I never want to see again is Dave doing all VH tunes live with a cover band. I'd like to see Dave stick with the fresh and the new creative he has in his mind.

fryingdutchman

02-13-2013, 07:00 AM

A very interesting and curious read to be sure.

Sharky made a very good point that struck me yesterday after I read it...and that is there is little to no attention given to Ed's recent health issues and surgery. Guys in their 50's take awhile to get back in fighting form, especially when that fight is taking a big show on the road.

My concerns lie with Dave's comments about Mike. While it was refreshing to hear him essentially calling for Mike's return, I think it will have a negative impact on his relationship with Ed. Even though he never referenced Wolfgang specifically, the comments came across sounding like "Ed's kid is OK, but we really need Mike back."

On the flip side, Dave makes it sound like he's aligned pretty closely with Al in some of his views...which is interesting when you consider that Al once considered Dave to be the devil incarnate.

As always, nothing is ever what it seems in Van Halen-land. The rest of this year should provide plenty of grist for our favorite mill....

fryingdutchman

02-13-2013, 07:08 AM

mh5150

02-13-2013, 07:09 AM

Mike is a class act....
Sammy needs to STFU ....
Dave better be wearing a cup....
Just sayin.....

Carmine

02-13-2013, 07:13 AM

...and the worst part...you just know that Sham-Wow will now be "giving interviews" as to his take on this...

...you know, because when Dave talks about Van Halen...everybody wants to know what he thinks...

...the fuck...

Zing!

02-13-2013, 08:00 AM

And maybe it's just me, but I don't think that the asshats at Rolling Stone helped the situation by using the word "vents" in the title of their article.

It automatically puts people on the defensive and tricks the reader into thinking that Dave's comments are based on some sort of frustration or anger, and that may not be the case at all.

But if I were Eddie and I read that headline, my mind would not exactly be "open" while I read what followed.

I agree - and can't help but think that the only Van Halen Rolling Stone's editors thought was bad-ass was the Van Haggar version. Any opportunity to get a little dig in on the band, to cause a little foment -they'll take it. The title could have easily read: "David Lee Roth Opens Up About Van Halen." Or better yet, simply: "David Lee Roth."

Really, that's all it needed to say. Just his name.

ELVIS

02-13-2013, 08:09 AM

I like how main has become the one stop shopping headquarters for Monday morning psychoanalytic perspectives and criticism of all things Van Halen...

:biggrin:

Never was

02-13-2013, 08:19 AM

I hope Dave spent some of his creative time working with a vocal coach to get back to form and adressing why he can no longer sing in buildings with AC. A lot will depend on how much of what he said in the interview he has already said to Eddie. If from Eds viewpoint this is first he is hearing it then not good news. Dave solo stuff is great but simply doesn't pay the bills. Plus if Dave was so concerned about the background vocals why not bring a back up singer or better yet focus on improving the lead vocals.

I mostly agree w his sentiments although he needs to realize he is unintentionally saying I want your kid out. Plus Ed has said publicly Wolfie contributed with Dave to Stay Frosty so I see why that would piss Dave off but it can piss off any parent if someone minimizes their kid rock band or in regular life. Hope it gets taken as someone frustrated and they get together to find a common ground but if not no complaing from Dave this time as he violated a long standing VH protocaol, don't go public.

ELVIS

02-13-2013, 08:24 AM

Dave didn't violate shit...

Van Halen is supposedly a band, not a witness protection program...

Never was

02-13-2013, 08:27 AM

I agree Elvis, just realize the Van Halen camp has never operated that way. In their eyes he may have and historically have they ever been ok someone going public?
Its a messed up logic and may not be how they function as "adults" now but can't ignore history either.

ELVIS

02-13-2013, 08:30 AM

That's where drugs and alcohol took their toll, as Dave pointed out...

Never was

02-13-2013, 08:33 AM

Then hopefully sobriety will allow a more lucid Eddie to see it as frustration and not an act of war.

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 08:42 AM

I like how main has become the one stop shopping headquarters for Monday morning psychoanalytic perspectives and criticism of all things Van Halen...

Has become?? Oh, should we have been talking about our most recently ingested meals? We're sorry. More psycho analyzing, coooooming uuuuppp!!!

Here's what trips me up a bit...

"But Ed has his own vision, I'm assuming. We haven't really been able to speak about it and it's a disappointment....I’m not sure what’s in Ed’s mind at this point."

"...Al Van Halen, who I speak with every morning here"

Ed and Al are the worlds first pair of Siamese twins born 2 years apart. I would think a conversation with one of them would be just like speaking to both of them!
But seriously, I wonder if it's possible that Ed asked his brother to be the contact point for Dave. Does Al just keep saying, "let me run it past Ed" and the usual stone walls, dead ends a road blocks keep appearing? Even if Dave's standing with Al is ions better than we'd ever imagined possible, Al must still be very guarded with his responses.

"I've offered the fellows, come on out here to the land of the gods. And if you don't want to make it that far we'll make it halfway – Konishiki [his friend and former champion sumo wrestler] has said he'll lend me his house in Hawaii, Let's go woodshed. But so far there hasn't been any response"

The response of "OK" would probably yield one phucking phenomenal phollow up to Truth.

Shit, I'll go to Hawaii and make music with ya Dave. PM me!

fryingdutchman

02-13-2013, 08:43 AM

I like how main has become the one stop shopping headquarters for Monday morning psychoanalytic perspectives and criticism of all things Van Halen...

:biggrin:

Especially since it's Wednesday...

ELVIS

02-13-2013, 08:52 AM

I deleted that exact comment from my original post...:biggrin:

Va Beach VH Fan

02-13-2013, 09:10 AM

I like how main has become the one stop shopping headquarters for Monday morning psychoanalytic perspectives and criticism of all things Van Halen...

:biggrin:

Isn't that what we've ALWAYS done ?? :D

tbone888

02-13-2013, 09:29 AM

Dave seems frustrated at the down time. Ive always gotten the impression dave would have been happy to continue the recording/tour schedule of 78-82 forever.

One thing for sure...we will surely see if Ed is truely "in a better place". Hes always reacted to things like this with verbal attacks, firing a lead singer and/or diving head first into the bottle.

Jérôme Frenchise

02-13-2013, 10:07 AM

This interview doesn't sound exactly good, for sure.

Maybe he had too much sake to drink, which is why he got a little bitter? :)

It's odd indeed that Dave invoked Michael Anthony... and didn't mention Wolf.

Wolfgang's job was excellent bass-wise, and even vocally, though he isn't Mike Anthony.

But then, Dave is David Lee Roth, yet he wasn't exactly himself singing-wise during the last tour, so...

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 10:22 AM

One thing for sure...we will surely see if Ed is truely "in a better place". Hes always reacted to things like this with verbal attacks, firing a lead singer and/or diving head first into the bottle.

I think Ed has come off as a rational, level headed guy during the past few interviews he's given. He was even quite complimentary of Dave. I don't think he'll respond belligerently to this. Does Dave's interview put Ed on a hot seat for a response? A little bit, which I'm sure he can't be too thrilled with, but I'm sure he's not up for chasing Dave down the dreaded rabbit hole of old.

Va Beach VH Fan

02-13-2013, 10:43 AM

Well, I'll repeat my Michael Anthony "thesis" again for those who've graciously ignored it in the past... ;)

I have held the belief since the very day that Mike was let go that it was NOT because he was playing gigs with Bette. Rather, I have always said that EVH's primary objective was to play onstage with his son.

The fact that Mike had been playing gigs with Bette simply created a very convenient excuse to tell the fans.

But now that Wolf is playing gigs with people closer to his age, and you cannot fault him for that, maybe this will once and for all allow Mike the opportunity to get his foot back in the Van Halen door....

And I think that Dave's statement's about Mike in RS is DLR picking the lock to that door.....

wolfsbane

02-13-2013, 10:45 AM

TitanTopper

02-13-2013, 10:46 AM

Dave is obviously restless!! Lets face it, Dave and EVH have no relationship...other than being on stage together. They seem to record separately and EVH can only take The Diamond One in small doses...it's understandable!! ;)
It was mentioned that WVH was the driving force BEHIND the scenes last tour, but I thought it was interesting that even the video boards always seemed to focus on the old three and not Wolf. The History Lesson interviews only included the original three...understandable, again. I bet Dave was behind that. Now, I think Dave realizes this is about WVH for Ed, and not really about the whole group. Dave has wanted The Band To Get Back Together from the beginning. Lets face it, Dave in VH is what truly makes him relevent. It just doesn't really seem about that for Ed. I think Dave sees WVH's bon voyage with Tremonti as a chance to get MA a foot in the door and re-create old times. It's just not going to happen and I hate that. Like most here...I have a love/hate thing for EVH. He is "complex" and that's the rub. Then again, Dave isn't your average bear. All I know is that I got to share my VH experience (at least 3/4's of it) with my 10 yr old at the time...and it was priceless!! I wish that train on the last album cover could keep rolling, but I strongly doubt it. And that's a real shame!!

ZahZoo

02-13-2013, 10:46 AM

My concerns lie with Dave's comments about Mike. While it was refreshing to hear him essentially calling for Mike's return, I think it will have a negative impact on his relationship with Ed. Even though he never referenced Wolfgang specifically, the comments came across sounding like "Ed's kid is OK, but we really need Mike back."

After considerable thought on this interview... I think you are touching what I came away with:

Dave... "Ed and I haven't written any new material in 20 years"... "Oh wait Stay Frosty"... "I wrote that"

What does that mean? ADKOT was the recycled old stuff... The other "New" material was written by Ed, Al and... Wolfgang. Dave just added vocals. He doesn't feel it was his collaboration with Ed.

Dave mentions Michael Anthony... Clearly the full original reunion concept is not lost on Dave's radar. But I think it speaks to a much deeper issue. Michael's role in Van Halen was never that of leadership and never threatened Dave in the "pecking order" or chain of command within the band.

What's changed?

Who wasn't mentioned at all?

Wolfgang Van Halen...

Remember in the Esquire interview Ed gushing about how Wolfgang took the reins on the album... the material chosen... the recording process and producing. The tour setlist... ETC. Where was Dave? Sequestered to recording his parts... alone... off-shift... virtually excluded from the inner creative process as Van Halen the band as a whole.

Dave feels saddled to the brothers and frustrated. Dave only mentions him and the brothers... Dave makes no mention or even implies anything regarding the 20-something year old pink stripped elephant in the VH room.

Van Halen goes no where until Wolfgang kicks Pops off the couch. Dave is ready to go-go-go.

I believe bottom line... Dave resents the hell out of being 3rd fiddle in the band. A certain Van Halen is out in the mainstream working for his dinner and that pisses Dave off because he's saddled to Ed and all of that is dependent on Wolfgang pulling the trigger. Dave wants Mike back... because it removes a certain youngster who hasn't earned his rightful spot on the throne... Standing between him and Dave's Van Halen fame and legacy.

It's wise of Dave not to mention Wolfgang... I get the feeling there's far more implied especially by what was not said.

ELVIS

02-13-2013, 10:57 AM

Maybe so...

But I think Ed should polish off a few bottles of Smoking Loon and fire back in the media...

:killer:

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 11:05 AM

Well said Zah.

private parts

02-13-2013, 11:07 AM

I really wouldn't get overly excited one way or the other....

All we're doing is reading Dave's words, we can't see his mannerisms nor his inflections in his voice....

Meaning, we really don't know if he was speaking in a "doom and gloom" manner, as if he doubted they would EVER do anything....

So I'm just gonna take the article at face value, and nothing more....

I don't think Dave EVER speaks in "doom n gloom". He ain't got time to waste on that. I think the interview was kind of positive.
I mean Al and Dave speak everyday!? And they both want to do these festivals!? That's pretty positive in my book.

We also got to keep in mind that Dave rides a bullet train through life, you know "beating the clock". Ed is at home noodling and watching Mr. Ed reruns.
I'm sure that would get on Dave's last nerves. The train is leaving the station.......Wolfie would you please pack your dad's bags.

TJMKID

02-13-2013, 11:48 AM

I think I can guess what is going on here. No surprise. Wolfie is playing with other bands and DLR wants to do something so he talks about MA coming back. I guess Wolfie ain't gonna quit the tour he is on now. Mr EVH needs YEARS to recover from the 2012 tour. Last time, after the 07-08 tour, it took him 1 year to recover; so it looks like we got 6-12 more months of Eddie sitting on the couch watching Law and Order.

Assuming EVH is totally healed from the colon surgery (his own doctor said 4-6 months recovery time) --- I can't understand why Ed likes to stay at home so much. At least in his younger years, he could say "I hate being on the road because I miss being with my wife and kid". But what about now? Janie accompanied him on the last 2 tours, Wolf is in the band, he has his brother as usual, and he even drags his little pooch along! What is so exciting about sitting in a dusty mansion in the Hollywood Hills watching TV? Seems like a boring way to spend your middle age years.

I don't care what anyone says --- the only thing that matters to EVH is his bank account --- if he talks to his accountant and is told his pile of money has shrunk to a few million, then he rings up Dave or Sam and tells them in a fake excited voice --- "Get up here and sing, bitch!" Jamming with Wolf is a very distant second priority.

ELVIS

02-13-2013, 11:57 AM

the only thing that matters to EVH is his bank account

No, I don't think that...

Ed is the classic introverted, creative drunken genius and/or madman...

Taking the alcohol away doesn't change that...

TJMKID

02-13-2013, 12:01 PM

I believe bottom line... Dave resents the hell out of being 3rd fiddle in the band. A certain Van Halen is out in the mainstream working for his dinner and that pisses Dave off because he's saddled to Ed and all of that is dependent on Wolfgang pulling the trigger. Dave wants Mike back... because it removes a certain youngster who hasn't earned his rightful spot on the throne... Standing between him and Dave's Van Halen fame and legacy.

It's wise of Dave not to mention Wolfgang... I get the feeling there's far more implied especially by what was not said.

I would think any VH fan worth their salt is not threatened by Wolf's impact on Dave's legacy at all. Most of us in here lived through the 70's and 80's and saw the rise of the greatest rock band we've ever seen in our lifetimes --- and it was all due to the talent and hard work of David Lee Roth and Eddie Van Halen. Wolf is just some kid who popped out of the right pair of testicles! I sure as hell ain't trading all my memories of the legendary rock frontman for a chubby youngster who hasn't written a single piece of music by himself that had any success yet. When a Wolf-Tremonti song cracks the Top 10, I'll start giving the boy some cred for his talent as a musician.

I can't get a firm reading on Dave's inference to Sobolewski --- part of me believes he is somewhat frustrated by a 21 yr. old kid calling the shots in Van Halen, but I also think Dave cares about the CVH fanbase and how we've been deprived of a true VH reunion for 28 years and counting. I think even the "Roth Show" is a way of keeping the fanbase amused until further projects develop from VH World, although the Haggis fans think it's Dave being "egotistical and weird as usual".

tbone888

02-13-2013, 12:07 PM

All the talk about Mike. Wasnt he quoted as saying he wanted nothing to ever do with van halen ever again?

TJMKID

02-13-2013, 12:09 PM

No, I don't think that...

Ed is the classic introverted, creative drunken genius and/or madman...

Taking the alcohol away doesn't change that...

The Cabo Cunt is a born liar --- but I believe him when he writes in his book that Al and Ed were hard up for cash after their divorces and that's why Al begs Spam to have a chummy dinner in 2003 to discuss a reunion tour. Take away the need for money, and EVH and AVH avoid Hagarita like a $10 hooker with AIDS.

ZahZoo

02-13-2013, 12:13 PM

All the talk about Mike. Wasnt he quoted as saying he wanted nothing to ever do with van halen ever again?

I don't recall Mike ever saying that. He's said he's having fun doing what he's doing and his last VH adventure wasn't fun.

I think he's left the door open... he just ain't standing on the porch knocking or waiting any more.

Never was

02-13-2013, 12:14 PM

Is there a price you don't avoid the hooker with aids?

ThatArtGuy

02-13-2013, 12:43 PM

All I have to say is after the props Dave gave him, Michael might want to rethink his trashing of Dave in the last couple of interviews.

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 03:20 PM

Oh and Kudos to DLR for that elbow to the nose of Jon Bon Jovi. Always appreciated.

Angel

02-13-2013, 03:43 PM

Oh and Kudos to DLR for that elbow to the nose of Jon Bon Jovi. Always appreciated.

That was fucking hilarious!

jhale667

02-13-2013, 03:58 PM

All the talk about Mike. Wasnt he quoted as saying he wanted nothing to ever do with van halen ever again?

Last quote I saw he said he wasn't interested IF it meant a return to all the drama of old - he DID NOT, however, close the door completely.

Sensible Shoes

02-13-2013, 04:03 PM

I stopped reading after the second page - but forgive me if I repeat-

What if it's already over, has BEEN over and Dave's just positioning himself to look like the one wronged? Wolf is off doing his own thing......

Yes, it could be dead as a doornail already.

FORD

02-13-2013, 04:08 PM

I suspect the main reason Mikey will never be back is that he's too loyal to Hagar. And as much as I can't stand Spammy because of his arrogance, inflated self-importance and Republican stupidity, I have to give the man some partial credit for having Mikey's back (yeah, insert jokes here) during the whole Velveetapalooza 2004 fiasco, when Eddie didn't want him on that tour at all.

So Mike would probably only come back to VH if the Ched Rocker was invited. And that is just NOT an acceptable condition.

Headly1984

02-13-2013, 04:11 PM

" Sometimes friends of ours have Maserati-style talent and they treat it like a fucking lawn mower." I wonder who Dave is referring to?

that one line sticks out more than anything else to me

Eddie Van Halen is able to do F1 Ferrari like performance compared to other guitarists who are are Indy cars or NASCRAP compared to him - their is no Hendrix in the World and Clapton is still the man but way different style

Eddie has his own thing and he Owns it like no one else can - but ..is he being prolific with his gift ? absofuckinglutely not

He is letting it sit in a shed like a lawn mower instead of running around the track and setting lap records and wowing crowds

the other thing that sticks out is Dave believes his writing days in VH are over - Ed & Wolf will be writing

There goes the lightheartedness & the fantastic or any sense of humor of the wild man side of Dave

ELVIS

02-13-2013, 04:23 PM

So Mike would probably only come back to VH if the Ched Rocker was invited. And that is just NOT an acceptable condition.

I'll bet it's not out of Edwad's twisted realm of ideas...

Maybe there is something to the two vocalist idea and they have yet to break the news to Dave...

But would Dave do it ??

To have Michael Anthony back and some closure ??

That would be some fucked up closure, for sure...

LMAO !!

:biggrin:

jhale667

02-13-2013, 04:26 PM

That wouldn't be "closure" it'd be a fiasco.

ELVIS

02-13-2013, 04:54 PM

Van Halen Fiasco®

Coming to a fairground near you...

:elvis:

sonrisa salvaje

02-13-2013, 05:02 PM

That wouldn't be "closure" it'd be a fiasco.

Indeed. It would, however, show Ed in a head to head setting the worth (or lack thereof) of the Van Hagar material up against the classic stuff. Think about the difference in the setlists. How can you put "When It's Love", "Finish What You Started" and "Dreams" up against "Unchained", "Runnin With the Devil" and "Hot For Teacher"????? If they did two or three songs with each singer interchanging over the course of the show the crowd would be up and down. If they did it as 2 different sets with an intermission in between, you would have to have Spam first because if you had him second the hit list they would have to play would be full of slow and mid-tempo shit killling off any momentum they may have had early on. I saw Dave destroy Sam when they toured together solo. I don't want to see it again just to have MA on stage. Fuck that.

twobad

02-13-2013, 05:44 PM

"I believe that Eddie is finally sober (for awhile now) and will realize that Dave is still his hyper old self and will let this slide."

It was said better, earlier. fuck fucK fuCK fUCK FUCK

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Dave's filthy little mouth! Enjoying the Roth Show each release date. The one thing I have not gotten a hint of him doing since the 2007-8 tour, until this interview, is "bait" EVH. History has unequivocally shown that doing so is NOT AT ALL GOOD FOR US, the loyal members of the army.

SUNOFABITCH- this scares the shit out of me for the future (what future?) of CVH!!!!!!!! :behindsofa:

twobad

02-13-2013, 05:53 PM

"It’s a goddamn war every day in the music business in one faction or another. I have a taste for that. I like conflict, and I can admit that now. “Come on, let’s get after this. Where’s the next war, guys?”"

I read the first part of the article before reading the Q&A 'cause I had to see what the army take(s) are.

As I'm now reading the article. I find it more ominous that what the first 3 1/2 pages of this thread let on.

I've never seen anything so obtuse as Van Halen's REFUSAL TO TAKE MY MONEY.
FUCK!!!

gbranton

02-13-2013, 06:01 PM

No - that's who else John 5 has played for...

And on Paul Stanley's "Live to Win".

So this is love

02-13-2013, 06:03 PM

If Eddie is considering having both Dave and Gaygar on tour...I'm out...I'm not going to buy this crap for sure...I'd rather have them pull the plug and retire for good.

chi-town324

02-13-2013, 06:11 PM

i to though the 2 vocalist rumor might have some legs to it...with Ed you never know where his fucked up mind might lead...30 years of drama and still going strong...gotta hand it to em

ELVIS

02-13-2013, 06:12 PM

:biggrin:

ELVIS

02-13-2013, 06:14 PM

And I imagine Edwad would do it one night Dave, the next night Sam...

gbranton

02-13-2013, 06:17 PM

ELVIS

02-13-2013, 06:23 PM

Stay Krusty, bitch...

:mad2:

ThrillsNSpills

02-13-2013, 06:30 PM

I can't get a firm reading on Dave's inference to Sobolewski --- part of me believes he is somewhat frustrated by a 21 yr. old kid calling the shots in Van Halen, but I also think Dave cares about the CVH fanbase and how we've been deprived of a true VH reunion for 28 years and counting.

Dave used to say on his old radio show that he wanted the original 4 or nothing.
He's definitely got mixed feelings about Wolf, especially if Wolf was the driving force behind the last outing.

ELVIS

02-13-2013, 06:31 PM

Dave used to say on his old radio show that he wanted the original 4 or nothing.

100% true...

Dave said that's the only way he would be involved...

lesfunk

02-13-2013, 06:37 PM

These fucking rock stars, man. When they're not doing drugs, evading the tax man or milking their fans on reunion tours, they're bitching about what it's like to be a fucking rock star. Fuck Roth and his pandering, fuck Eddie and his bickering and most of all, fuck all of you for ever wanting to buy into this shit.

Cuntsidering that I don't even bitch about being a failed musician, Rock Stars have no right to complain

LoungeMachine

02-13-2013, 06:42 PM

and most of all, fuck all of you for ever wanting to buy into this shit.

Said the bitch who registered here a decade ago.....

:gulp:

ThrillsNSpills

02-13-2013, 06:42 PM

Shit, I almost agree with Kristy on that quote, except Ed's not bitching.
Considering everything that's happened with all of them, it's a miracle that album even happened, let alone had as much kick as it did.

ThrillsNSpills

02-13-2013, 06:50 PM

Oh, Ed's always bitching. Seriously Thrills, when was the last time you left the inside of your house?

What, you mean to go to Ed's house to press my ear to the window to hear if he's bitching?
Where's he bitched lately in the press?

non-sensical troll

ThrillsNSpills

02-13-2013, 06:59 PM

Fuck you, Thrills.

Yeah, me and Ed are close. In fact, we were 'Nam together.

Idiot.

couldn't answer the question apparently.
Trolls and logic usually don't go together.
unsubstantiated baiting and projection from someone who lives here just to cause problems.

Carloscda

02-13-2013, 07:03 PM

Ed came back from his hand surgery and played like it was the early 80's again!

After this past surgery you would think that he would want to get back on the road and set the world on fire?!!

Fairwrning

02-13-2013, 07:04 PM

Dave talking about MA is surprising..I almost feel like Roth is " jealous" of the ED/Wolf thing...yet he says he talks to Alex...hhmmm..

Fairwrning

02-13-2013, 07:11 PM

Fuck..I need some cheering up..

clarathecarrot

02-13-2013, 07:13 PM

They can do whattever they want and you know what I am quite sure they appreciate me letting you all know that.

Like we have any say in the matter at all..lol.

They have done great things since 2007 and I am one happy sumbitch yessireee!

Do I want some more when they are ready and it's right.

I will say one thing DLR and Sam onstage with VH playing back -up sounds like shit to me cause that is what it would be a band and two sigers switching off to get the music played..kinda stupid.

I mean wouldn't it be sweet to see DLR and Sammy hugging each other for a duet....what is this R&R or a tribute band with the actual players.

I call no on that idea... half the folks don't like DLR, half don't like Sam, who would be in the audience,?.....some dude from the Jersey Shore painting his asshole with oompa loompa taint tanning spray, thinking he was listening to Muzak in the Toledo bus station restroom.

Hey, the acoustics in here are awesome....

ELVIS

02-13-2013, 07:14 PM

Ed came back from his hand surgery and played like it was the early 80's again!

I wouldn't go that far...

Kristy

02-13-2013, 07:15 PM

Fuck..I need some cheering up..

What you need is some black tar heroin and T-Rex.

Fairwrning

02-13-2013, 07:16 PM

What you need is some black tar heroin and T-Rex.

A doob and ADKOT will do it...

jhale667

02-13-2013, 07:20 PM

A doob and ADKOT will do it...

:stoned-smiley: Well put, sir.

ThrillsNSpills

02-13-2013, 07:21 PM

I will say one thing

:lie:

LoungeMachine

02-13-2013, 07:23 PM

CVH has been over for me for some time, but I still love keeping up with DLR and I've always held out a little hope the original 4 would reunite for an album and a tour, and then walk off the stage heads held high...

I saw the WACF and 1984 tours, as well as DLR Skyscraper tour....

I've said it before here...nothing short of a CVH reunion would get me up.

The old spEDDIE would tear Dave's head off in print over an interview like this, I'm waiting to see if any more cups are required....

Dave is frustrated, but holding out hope.....just like many of US it would seem.

:gulp:

Maybe that's one reason why we relate to him so well....

Kenny can go fuck himself and join The Smiths Forum for all I care...

LoungeMachine

02-13-2013, 07:23 PM

What you need is some black tar heroin and T-Rex.

Your overdose is long overdue....

:gulp:

Seshmeister

02-13-2013, 07:24 PM

I'll bet it's not out of Edwad's twisted realm of ideas...

Maybe there is something to the two vocalist idea and they have yet to break the news to Dave...

But would Dave do it ??

To have Michael Anthony back and some closure ??

That would be some fucked up closure, for sure...

LMAO !!

:biggrin:

Dave refused to do this 10 years ago, I don't see why he would do it now.

I don't think it would be offered anyway, there is too much bad blood with Hagar now.

jhale667

02-13-2013, 07:32 PM

So... let's say Ed does get angry over this... one small problem: now he has to fire Dave AND Al... ;)

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 07:38 PM

So... let's say Ed does get angry over this... one small problem: now he has to fire Dave AND Al... ;)

I read he actually fired Al during the recording of VH III. Can't remember where, but I think Fire In The Hole may be Ed playing drums.

VHscraps

02-13-2013, 07:52 PM

I read he actually fired Al during the recording of VH III. Can't remember where, but I think Fire In The Hole may be Ed playing drums.

I read it in an interview with Andy Johns - he and Ed had fallen out by then. I just googled 'Andy Johns Van Halen fired Alex' and there it was (http://www.melodicrock.com/interviews/andyjohns.html):

"Well Ed started thinking he didn't have to listen to anybody. And he fired everyone in the band. The only one left was him. Everyone else was gone. He even fired Alex."

Seshmeister

02-13-2013, 07:56 PM

So... let's say Ed does get angry over this... one small problem: now he has to fire Dave AND Al... ;)

Dave said a lot worse things about Eddie and did a hell of a lot more baiting on his radio show - not long after that he was back in the band.

This could be a deliberate move by him and Alex, maybe they chose Rolling Stone because they knew it would get back to him.

Zing!

02-13-2013, 07:59 PM

I read he actually fired Al during the recording of VH III. Can't remember where, but I think Fire In The Hole may be Ed playing drums.

Jesus - I've never heard THAT one before. Holy shit...

LoungeMachine

02-13-2013, 08:00 PM

Jesus - I've never heard THAT one before. Holy shit...

That's nothing....

Ed once fired ME here.....

But The Clique had my back......

:gulp:

LoungeMachine

02-13-2013, 08:01 PM

Dave said a lot worse things about Eddie and did a hell of a lot more baiting on his radio show - not long after that he was back in the band.

This could be a deliberate move by him and Alex, maybe they chose Rolling Stone because they knew it would get back to him.

Because Ed reads RS Online.....but never listened to Dave's show.....

:)

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 08:06 PM

...maybe they chose Rolling Stone because they knew it would get back to him.

A strong possibility but it still confounds me. How is a phone call not the best way to speak to someone within your own band? These are truly different human beings we're dealing with.

Nitro Express

02-13-2013, 08:09 PM

A strong possibility but it still confounds me. How is a phone call not the best way to speak to someone within your own band? These are truly different human beings we're dealing with.

No kidding. How hard is it to pick up the phone and call Eddie. "Hi Ed. It's Dave. Hey I was wondering about what we are going to do after we are done with this last tour leg. I have some ideas on some things we could do I just thought I would call and see what you wanted to do."

LoungeMachine

02-13-2013, 08:13 PM

Seshmeister

02-13-2013, 08:14 PM

When the Osbournes TV show was being made Ozzy was deemed 'sober' because he was mainly on prescription drugs.

Who knows what condition sober Ed is in...

jhale667

02-13-2013, 08:23 PM

That's nothing....

Ed once fired ME here.....

But The Clique had my back......

:gulp:

I threatened to storm the compound....

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 08:23 PM

You honestly don't think he tried every other avenue first???

:gulp:

c'mon

No, this is where the perpetual contact between Al an Dave throws me a curve ball. Talking to Al is ostensibly the same thing as talking to Ed. Why is there this perpetual communication breakdown after all they've been through, all they've hugged out and all of the progress they've made? It's fucking ponderous.

fraroc

02-13-2013, 08:38 PM

After re-reading, I really don't think that it means VH just broke up, I do think that the interview hints at a POSSIBLE 2014 Van Halen Farewell Tour.

Nickdfresh

02-13-2013, 08:41 PM

I like how main has become the one stop shopping headquarters for Monday morning psychoanalytic perspectives and criticism of all things Van Halen...

:biggrin:

Has "become?" When hasn't it been?

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 08:45 PM

Wow Nick, he wrote that this morning. Where ya been?

Nickdfresh

02-13-2013, 08:46 PM

A...
I believe bottom line... Dave resents the hell out of being 3rd fiddle in the band. A certain Van Halen is out in the mainstream working for his dinner and that pisses Dave off because he's saddled to ....

I don't know if I agree with that when we consider that Dave and Al talk daily. I think most everything has to do with when Ed is ready, hopefully he's recovered and things will begin to kick off shortly...

Nickdfresh

02-13-2013, 08:53 PM

Wow Nick, he wrote that this morning. Where ya been?

I forgot we had a forum on Roth-CVH. ;)

jhale667

02-13-2013, 08:56 PM

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 09:05 PM

Dave and Al talking daily can't be anything but a good sign IMO. If it was just a daily conference to hash out business shit - c'mon, they have "people" that could do that for them. Hopefully it signals a united front in continuing the legacy of VH.

Good pernt, but don't forget, those "people" supposedly fucked everything up in 2000. United front sounds way better than Dave's two least favorite words, "band meeting."

gbranton

02-13-2013, 09:17 PM

You listen to the interviews from back in the day and watch videos like the one of Dave and Alex clowning around in the Merc filming the footage for Panama and it's clear that they used to be great friends. I am happy for the two of them, I know what a great feeling it is to reunite with an old friend.

Terry

02-13-2013, 09:26 PM

I tend to doubt that Ed would make some wild band decision based on this latest Roth interview...it wouldn't be a surprise to me if Ed hasn't even read it even if he has heard about it: at best, Ed would probably chalk it all up to "Roth is running off with the mouth again".

It also wouldn't be a surprise to find out that Roth did this interview as a way to make his feelings known to Eddie, and that Dave and Eddie don't communicate one-to-one in an offstage setting anymore. I mean, it seems silly to me, but these guys were (at various points) unable to deal with each other in their twenties, thirties and forties: how much of a shock would it be to find out that the same holds true now that they are all crowding 60?

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 09:39 PM

Their definitely a volatile pair. I think in Ed's Esquire interview, he came off a bit insecure at one point when he felt he had to express that 'there was music behind the words ya know'. And now you've got Dave hemming that Stay Frosty is dumped towards the back end of the CD because it's the one song he wrote.

I still have a copy of the old Musician magazine with Dave and Ed on the cover. It says, "The oddest couple. Will it last?" As fair a question in '13 as it was in '84.

Nitro Express

02-13-2013, 09:42 PM

cocksuckers and skull fuckers.

AJW

02-13-2013, 09:43 PM

Was the Interscope deal a one and done?

I believe so.

chefcraig

02-13-2013, 09:55 PM

I still have a copy of the old Musician magazine with Dave and Ed on the cover. It says, "The oddest couple. Will it last?" As fair a question in '13 as it was in '84.

I'm pretty sure my copy is laying around here as well. Looking back on what took place afterward, it was one hell of a prescient title for an article, not to mention astute.

cocksuckers and skull fuckers.

I loved it when VH covered that tune on the Brazil bootleg. :guzzle:

Heater

02-13-2013, 10:02 PM

I wonder if Dave and Al speak daily or if its another Roth embellishment......
Since reuniting, is Dave anything more than a contracted employee?
Its killing him that he isnt even close to steering the boat.
He may feel the end is truly near and he has nothing to lose by talking, I get the feeling when Ed let him back in it was with the caveat of keeping his mouth shut. Things really didnt turn out the way he thought they would when he was re-hired. Took him 7 years to man up and mention Mike? Cant wait for the extended Panama dance mix.

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 10:03 PM

Wow Chef. Busting out some SAT words. My drunk ass had to look up prescient. Agreed!

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 10:08 PM

clarathecarrot

02-13-2013, 10:09 PM

I though maybe chef was cruising the local spelling bee's looking for chicks and accidentally learned some new words.;)

Heater

02-13-2013, 10:15 PM

You have such a way about you. You pop in once every 5 days or so and take about 3 different pot shots in one shitty little paragraph and then poof, your gone. Yay you. Such a valiant existence.

I rest easy knowing you re ALWAYS here. Saying the same thing....over and over.....

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 10:27 PM

I rest easy knowing you re ALWAYS here. Saying the same thing....over and over.....

Oh gee. Y'got me. I'm a fan who shoots the shit with friends I've made around the globe.

You? Your a nobody with no friends who can't help but fire off shitty, negative comments about Dave. Bravo. Keep up the good work.

Heater

02-13-2013, 10:35 PM

You do have a lot of pals that you talk to on line, thats WONDERFUL. At the same time, theres a big old world outside that basement window where you can talk to others in person, kinda cool.

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 10:44 PM

You do have a lot of pals that you talk to on line, thats WONDERFUL. At the same time, theres a big old world outside that basement window where you can talk to others in person, kinda cool.

Nope. The 'basement' shtick doesn't apply here pal. Got a family and a job. Friends I see in person and friends I talk to here. Nice try though.

Look, no one here thinks that the VH-DLR saga isn't a bad soap opera. We all can be, and have been harsh critics, of Dave particularly, too. I just think it's apparent that your criticisms are from directly across enemy lines. You're pro-Hagar without ever mentioning him. Perhaps your on his books. Professional irritant. Hey, if you're getting paid to stir shit, hats off to you. If not, I just don't get it.

GreenEyedMurder

02-13-2013, 10:47 PM

GreenEyedMurder

02-13-2013, 10:52 PM

I really wouldn't get overly excited one way or the other....

All we're doing is reading Dave's words, we can't see his mannerisms nor his inflections in his voice....

Meaning, we really don't know if he was speaking in a "doom and gloom" manner, as if he doubted they would EVER do anything....

So I'm just gonna take the article at face value, and nothing more....

I didn't take it as doom and gloom, but as Dave being anxious to get back into action. He also made references to realizing that age is starting to catch up to him, so I assume that he wants to live as much as possible before he has to slow down. I read it as Dave bursting at the seams to just DO SOMETHING, and that he really wants to do it with Van Halen, but in the meantime, he's going to explore different creative outlets -- from a jukebox musical (whatever that is) to The Roth Show to a bilingual Japanese radio show. The boy gets restless.

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 10:56 PM

My friend's mother battled Diverticulitis for the better part of a year. I'm amazed she even lived the way she was so brought down by it. She can't be much older than Ed either.

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 11:03 PM

I didn't take it as doom and gloom, but as Dave being anxious to get back into action. He also made references to realizing that age is starting to catch up to him, so I assume that he wants to live as much as possible before he has to slow down. I read it as Dave bursting at the seams to just DO SOMETHING, and that he really wants to do it with Van Halen, but in the meantime, he's going to explore different creative outlets -- from a jukebox musical (whatever that is) to The Roth Show to a bilingual Japanese radio show. The boy gets restless.

You hit the nail on the head with that one. "60 is the new 80" is Dave's way of saying he knows he ain't gonna be spritely in his sixties like Mick Jagger. Besides, Mick just has to shimmy around and croak out his tunes and his faithful are apparently fine with that. Dave is well aware that his fans judge him harshly on his mobility and vocal abilities. It shouldn't be that way. He's not Benjamin fucking Button!

Heater

02-13-2013, 11:05 PM

Nope. The 'basement' shtick doesn't apply here pal. Got a family and a job. Friends I see in person and friends I talk to here. Nice try though.

Look, no one here thinks that the VH-DLR saga isn't a bad soap opera. We all can be, and have been harsh critics, of Dave particularly, too. I just think it's apparent that your criticisms are from directly across enemy lines. You're pro-Hagar without ever mentioning him. Perhaps your on his books. Professional irritant. Hey, if your getting paid to stir shit, hats off to you. If not, I just don't get it.

Sorry but youre wrong. Always been a CVH fan, playing the Hagar card is a pretty tired tactic but use what you got. I just dont blindly cheer everything Roth does nor do I idolize him. Watching him after he left just kinda got painful to me, doesnt mean his initial tenure in the band was any less stellar (we LOVE that word). When he first got back with the boys he asked that the judging be harsh, so I am taking him at his word. Many here wont do that, if being an apologist is easier, stay the course, you dont want to hurt Daves feelings? Thats cool, but why get so pissed off?

GreenEyedMurder

02-13-2013, 11:14 PM

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 11:15 PM

I recall him saying "judge us harshly" and I have. I'm not here to kiss his ass. I expect the best of him. You say I say the same thing over and over. Really? C'mon. If I'm wrong about your Hagar-ness, you gotta admit to being wrong about that.

GreenEyedMurder

02-13-2013, 11:23 PM

My friend's mother battled Diverticulitis for the better part of a year. I'm amazed she even lived the way she was so brought down by it. She can't be much older than Ed either.

I'm pretty sure that coping with an illness is quite different than recovering from surgery.

Heater

02-13-2013, 11:23 PM

I admit it, cheap shot on my part.

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 11:31 PM

I admit it, cheap shot on my part.

We good. I'd erase post 199 if I could. Having a rare shit faced Wednesday night.

sadaist

02-13-2013, 11:32 PM

Sorry but youre wrong. Always been a CVH fan, playing the Hagar card is a pretty tired tactic but use what you got. I just dont blindly cheer everything Roth does nor do I idolize him. Watching him after he left just kinda got painful to me, doesnt mean his initial tenure in the band was any less stellar (we LOVE that word). When he first got back with the boys he asked that the judging be harsh, so I am taking him at his word. Many here wont do that, if being an apologist is easier, stay the course, you dont want to hurt Daves feelings? Thats cool, but why get so pissed off?

I do idolize Dave. I do NOT love everything he has done. I was at the Vegas show...1st show of the 1st night. Was not great. Things he did later made me cringe. But I stick by him and he paid me back 10000fold in 2007 for my loyalty. He was better than ever and made me proud that I had spoke the gospel of Dave all those years. Redemption and shut my naysayer friends the fuck up after they saw that tour. That's right fuckers, Dave is king!

But yeah, I'm cool with people slamming him for certain things while loveing others. He did do some weird shit that was very uncool in my eyes. Still love him and take him AS IS!

roth on!!

GreenEyedMurder

02-13-2013, 11:32 PM

9552
In the meantime, let's enjoy what we've had so far and celebrate :)

ELVIS

02-13-2013, 11:37 PM

When the Osbournes TV show was being made Ozzy was deemed 'sober' because he was mainly on prescription drugs.

Who knows what condition sober Ed is in...

That would suck if he was the next SSRI shooter..

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 11:39 PM

I'm pretty sure that coping with an illness is quite different than recovering from surgery.

I'm not sure I follow. Both Ed and my friends mom suffered from an illness and recovered from a surgery. It can take some time.

DLR Bridge

02-13-2013, 11:42 PM

I was at the Vegas show...1st show of the first night!

What was the best and worst part of that show?

Heater

02-13-2013, 11:47 PM

We good. I'd erase post 199 if I could. Having a rare shit faced Wednesday night.

All good. Rethinking my delivery style.

IceCreamBlondie

02-14-2013, 12:20 AM

Thanks for posting....a little bit depressing article from our man Roth. Sounds like Ed finally let Dave talk and Dave can hardly wait to unleash that creative spirit within him.....sounds a bit frustrated with the current state of VH affairs.

If there is good news, at least Dave is still thinking of a future for Van Halen.....if its Coachella, I'll be there. It would be awesome if they headlined Coachella...

sadaist

02-14-2013, 12:41 AM

What was the best and worst part of that show?

Best part - Jump, Yankee Rose, Ice Cream Man, Just A Gigolo

Worst part - Dave attempting very long drawn-out standard Vegas Schtick between the songs.

Unexpected treat - Free Ride with Edgar Winter. That song kills with Dave singing.

DLR Bridge

02-14-2013, 12:49 AM

Unexpected treat - Free Ride with Edgar Winter. That song kills with Dave singing.
I'll bet! I'd love to hear that. There's been mention of VH doing that tune in the club days, but I never heard a boot of it. I can envision Dave kicking ass on that one.

Headly1984

02-14-2013, 01:02 AM

Seems Dave knows the clock is ticking .. maybe like Robert Plant knows he cannot hit the highs much longer so no more Zepp - but the rest of the band could play all day long

Dave wants to take advantage of his ability while he has it - he wants to do VH now & until he can't any longer & would love to bring MA back for a real reunion - a full tilt boogie

ED - who knows ?? is it drugs, sex ? solitude and his guitar ? If he likes drugs - so what, let him run rails all day long if they keep him going - just stay off the booze .. that seems his Achilles heel

The good thing for all of em, they made a boat load of $ in the last 6 yrs

Dave made some $ too and got notoriety again, he has room to be himself, he isn't a NYC medic or in obscurity - he has a recent record out with VH and 2 tours that paid well in the last 6 yrs - he has said he has been rich and been poor, and he prefers being rich

maybe now he wants to keep the VH machine rolling like Page wants to keep the Led Zep machine rolling, but Plant is a no go for any $$

Hopefully Ed is a no go due to health

Sammy & Dave together - oh please no - I saw Van Hagar and I enjoyed the show because of the band - the singer was an ass on stage and toward his guitarist - he treated the Maserati like a tool

the future of VH seems stale - Ed seems to want to be his own man or get wolf ready to do something bigger than Jason Bonham

VHscraps

02-14-2013, 03:51 AM

I can see that the comments about Mike might cause some problems between Dave and Ed, but I just don't think that Dave has been playing third fiddle, or that Wolfgang is the driving force, etc.

Sure, it may have taken Wolf to get Ed into making the album / doing the tour in the first place - but driving force? Creatively? My ass.

I look at ADKOT and I see an album with Roth's lyrics and handwork plastered all over it. A guy that is a payroll singer? Doubt it.

Why did ADKOT end up on Interscope? Answer = because it was what Dave wanted. Look at the credits - all songs written by 'Roth/Van Halen'. Who chose Kool and the Gang to open the tour? Dave.

Before they started recording the album Dave said at some point that he had been going over to Ed's place every day for months and months to work on the album. I think we're reading too much into 'we haven't written a song together for 20 years' and the fact that Dave recorded his parts at Henson Studios.

Remember that it was DAVE who got Ed to use the producer they ended up with, and got him out of 5150 to finish the album off. Ed even said it in one interview - 'It was what Dave wanted'.

Looks to me like Ed has been the one accommodating Dave all along this process, and that without Dave the three Van Halens would still be jamming those tunes up at 5150. AND Ed has paying compliments to his writing ('Dave's amazing'). So c'mon, it is Dave who was the driving force behind even getting an album out.

I think Dave's jazzed because he's living in Tokyo, meeting new people and soaking up all the energy of the place. He's ready to keep moving forward. Ed lives in the Hollywood Hills - a slower pace already, and then add to that Dave being a workaholic / an experience junkie.

I agree entirely with what someone said back near the beginning of this thread - without hearing Dave's voice / audio of the interview with RS there's no way of telling if he is really pissed off. Maybe the journalist has just done as much as he could to slant the written story in a way that will send traffic to Rolling Stone's website.

Yeah 'DLR VENTS' that'll get attention ...

ashstralia

02-14-2013, 04:31 AM

very astute observations Mr Scraps....

i still think they're mad if they don't go the aussie tour straight after japan. if japan happens; that is.

fryingdutchman

02-14-2013, 05:36 AM

But now that Wolf is playing gigs with people closer to his age, and you cannot fault him for that, maybe this will once and for all allow Mike the opportunity to get his foot back in the Van Halen door....

And I think that Dave's statement's about Mike in RS is DLR picking the lock to that door.....

I believe that the only way that Mike comes back is if Wolf falls on his sword, deliberately steps aside, and looks Ed in the eyes and says "Dad....you know it's the right thing to do. Give the people what they want."

Wolf is obviously a rabid fan of Classic Van Halen, which is why he stuck his iPod in Ed's ears and convinced him to get back with Dave in the first place.

Perhaps this was all part of some complex 5 year plan on Wolf's part to get the originals back together again. I can just imagine him having a checklist:

1. Get dad sober
2. Get dad to re-learn all of the CVH catalog
3. Tell dad it's my dream to play live with him, but only if Dave is the singer
4. Convince dad to tour
5. Convince dad that the only thing better than touring with him would be to make a record with him and tour to support it
6. Tell dad it's been fun, but I want to jam with some other dudes closer to my age and he needs to rebuild the bridge with Mike like he did with Dave
7. Consider the possibility of having to start back at step 1 and get dad sober again.

Carmine

02-14-2013, 06:35 AM

Take from it what you will but Wolf wrote simply "No Comment" on his facebook page last night...

fryingdutchman

02-14-2013, 06:50 AM

Take from it what you will but Wolf wrote simply "No Comment" on his facebook page last night...

Of course! He doesn't want to get fired!!

He's already treading on thin ice with that whole "you can't be in two bands" thing....

big fatty

02-14-2013, 07:10 AM

I don't know. Wolfie was the fresh blood that got VH pumping again, and now that Dave mentions Micheal Anthony's name, everyone gets excited and wants to cast Wolfie to the side, after all he did, it just doesnt seem right. Not to mention the simple fact that Wolfie is the boss's son, and by giving props to Mike, without praising Wolfie may cause some static amongst the family.

Sounds to me like Dave may possibly have a contract that needs to be renewed, and Eddie is taking his sweet time deciding what to do and when to do it.

If Dave & Ed have different creative aspirations, they could easily do side projects in addition to VH. I hope it all works out, but seems like another fucking soap opera.

Zing!

02-14-2013, 07:43 AM

Take from it what you will but Wolf wrote simply "No Comment" on his facebook page last night...

Wolfie said something about this before Haggar? I would have bet Vegas odds that the Ched Chunker would have been running his pie-hole by now...

GreenEyedMurder

02-14-2013, 08:31 AM

I'm not sure I follow. Both Ed and my friends mom suffered from an illness and recovered from a surgery. It can take some time.

Well, you didn't say that your friend's mom had the same surgery, only the same illness. Still, different people handle symptoms and recoveries quite differently.

GreenEyedMurder

02-14-2013, 08:36 AM

I believe that the only way that Mike comes back is if Wolf falls on his sword, deliberately steps aside, and looks Ed in the eyes and says "Dad....you know it's the right thing to do. Give the people what they want."

Wolf is obviously a rabid fan of Classic Van Halen, which is why he stuck his iPod in Ed's ears and convinced him to get back with Dave in the first place.

Perhaps this was all part of some complex 5 year plan on Wolf's part to get the originals back together again. I can just imagine him having a checklist:

1. Get dad sober
2. Get dad to re-learn all of the CVH catalog
3. Tell dad it's my dream to play live with him, but only if Dave is the singer
4. Convince dad to tour
5. Convince dad that the only thing better than touring with him would be to make a record with him and tour to support it
6. Tell dad it's been fun, but I want to jam with some other dudes closer to my age and he needs to rebuild the bridge with Mike like he did with Dave
7. Consider the possibility of having to start back at step 1 and get dad sober again.

As long as #8 isn't "Tell dad how much fun it would be to play with that Sarah Jessica Parker lookalike"!

ELVIS

02-14-2013, 08:40 AM

Well, you didn't say that your friend's mom had the same surgery, only the same illness. Still, different people handle symptoms and recoveries quite differently.

Especially if you're Edwad Van Hermit...

DLR Bridge

02-14-2013, 08:55 AM

This is the end......my only friend, the end.......

Nahhh. Things jus' heating up.

VHND posted a pretty decent dissection of Dave's interview.

ZahZoo

02-14-2013, 09:31 AM

Take from it what you will but Wolf wrote simply "No Comment" on his facebook page last night...

Well that plays into my thoughts on what isn't being said...

private parts

02-14-2013, 10:23 AM

On a lighter note..The guy still has it!

"But so far there hasn't been any response, so hope and faith are not actual tactics and strategies – they're strippers from Albuquerque."

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

ELVIS

02-14-2013, 10:33 AM

What year was that joke from again ??

private parts

02-14-2013, 10:44 AM

Not sure... I was born yesterday:winkglasses:

Zing!

02-14-2013, 11:42 AM

I may revert back to my previous assessment.

VH is fucked.

sadaist

02-14-2013, 11:56 AM

VH is fucked.

Have been since 1985.

This is exactly why I (as most of you) when I saw the reunion in 2007 I didn't buy it or celebrate it or believe it until the lights went down & I actually SAW WITH MY OWN EYES Dave & Eddie on the same stage once and for all. Every minute up to that point I held my breath. The first note of YRGM and Dave waving that red flag....was the biggest exhale sigh of relief OMFG it's really happening holy shit I'm so fucking happy moment of my life.

mh5150

02-14-2013, 12:00 PM

Nahhh. Things jus' heating up.

VHND posted a pretty decent dissection of Dave's interview.

I think so too. Just building things up..IMO ... LIKE boxers or wrestler before a big match. Gotta get all eyes on ya and than bammmmm.

sadaist

02-14-2013, 12:02 PM

Although....the MSG opening nearly puts that one to shame :)

(can't wait to see what they do next time)

TJMKID

02-14-2013, 12:28 PM

Dave made some $ too and got notoriety again, he has room to be himself, he isn't a NYC medic or in obscurity - he has a recent record out with VH and 2 tours that paid well in the last 6 yrs - he has said he has been rich and been poor, and he prefers being rich.

Dave never became a paramedic in NYC because he was hard up for cash. I've always hated that bullshit notion being propagated by the Hagarita Sheep and their ilk. Paramedics only make around $50,000/year and I'm sure Dave makes 4 or 5 times that yearly on VH royalties from all those multi-platinum albums that he has songwriting credits.

Dave became an inner city medic because he admired his father's selfless work as an eye surgeon treating inmates in the California prison system. Dave just wanted to give back to the community in his own way. From his speech at the Cafe Wha gig last January, it sounds like he also regretted never going to college for a degree and wanted to add that to his bucket list. Bravo to a true Renaissance Man like Sir Diamond Roth!

Dave is not motivated by money. He has always been worth around $50 million even during the leanest times of his music career so he's not hard up for cash like Eddie and Alex have been.

mh5150

02-14-2013, 12:33 PM

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/15/e4eha8a2.jpg

Matt White

02-14-2013, 01:10 PM

Dave never became a paramedic in NYC because he was hard up for cash. I've always hated that bullshit notion being propagated by the Hagarita Sheep and their ilk. Paramedics only make around $50,000/year and I'm sure Dave makes 4 or 5 times that yearly on VH royalties from all those multi-platinum albums that he has songwriting credits.

Dave became an inner city medic because he admired his father's selfless work as an eye surgeon treating inmates in the California prison system. Dave just wanted to give back to the community in his own way. From his speech at the Cafe Wha gig last January, it sounds like he also regretted never going to college for a degree and wanted to add that to his bucket list. Bravo to a true Renaissance Man like Sir Diamond Roth!

Dave is not motivated by money. He has always been worth around $50 million even during the leanest times of his music career so he's not hard up for cash like Eddie and Alex have been.

No kidding......DAVE's net worth is more than 40 million......he doesn't do much of ANYTHING "because he needs the cash"...........

ThatArtGuy

02-14-2013, 01:14 PM

I find it peculiar that both articles, "Dave Venting" and "Dave give props to MA" are on the official Van Halen FB page.

ZahZoo

02-14-2013, 01:25 PM

I believe it's one interview with different media slants on it.

DLR Bridge

02-14-2013, 01:35 PM

I find it peculiar that both articles, "Dave Venting" and "Dave give props to MA" are on the official Van Halen FB page.

That's funny. It's kind of like their saying, "Hey kids! We're still a bunch of fuckin' loons! Stay tuned!"

sadaist

02-14-2013, 01:46 PM

he's not hard up for cash like Eddie and Alex have been.

No ex wives plays a good part in that as well.

TJMKID

02-14-2013, 02:00 PM

No ex wives plays a good part in that as well.

Dave will go down as one of the smartest fuckers in rock history --- he had it all figured out from Day 1 --- don't get married because eventually all these bitches will leave and take your hard-earned millions with them. Make sure the Lloyd's of London paternity insurance is current because there's always some groupie or ex-gf looking for a big payday for "child support" --- and that usually means $25,000 a month for rent and other necessities of a high-maintenance gold diggin' ho.

Dave's been sitting pretty from a financial standpoint ever since the ink was wet on their contract with Warner Bros. He's fucked more gorgeous 20-yr. old strippers than Ed or Alex can dream about, and nothing unsavory has been said about him from a chick he porked. The dude found the Secret to Eternal Happiness!

:yo:

Nitro Express

02-14-2013, 02:12 PM

DLR Bridge

02-14-2013, 02:15 PM

I'm confident everything's gonna...

Hey what the!? A whole shit load of confetti and balloons dropped on my head.

Ohhh it's my 2000 post celebration. Thanks guys!

TJMKID

02-14-2013, 02:28 PM

David Lee Roth is one of the few true rock stars. He lives life on his terms and does what he wants. He persues his passions with a vengeance. Most people are just too scared to exercise their freedom in such ways. Dave is not and that is why Dave has never been and never will be a slave.

I still can't figure out why people admire assholes like Ozzy Osbourne, Gene Simmons and EVH. Sure, they got a lot of money in the bank but they're basically boring homebody fucks shuffling around as the old lady barks orders at them. Nothing exciting to see here.

Dave read "Huckleberry Finn" at age 8 and decided he was going to make that his life and not just a book he read. All you can really take to the next life is memories and Dave sure got a lot of colorful ones to take with him.

chefcraig

02-14-2013, 02:28 PM

I'll bet! I'd love to hear that. There's been mention of VH doing that tune in the club days, but I never heard a boot of it. I can envision Dave kicking ass on that one.

VH used to do several songs from They Only Come Out At Night back then, yet I've never run across "Free Ride" out side of the Vegas shows. The Edgar Winter Group must have cast a pretty big shadow over California kids at the time (I'm still convinced VH started playing "YRGM" after hearing it on a Rick Derringer live album). Hell, Dave even covered "Easy Street" from Winter's follow-up album Shock Treatment on the Crazy From The Heat EP.

Sadly, this crummy version is also the best sounding audio from that era.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgxw-jq7FrY

DLR Bridge

02-14-2013, 02:35 PM

That would have been a better choice than Where Have All The Good Times Gone. More shake to it and, needless to say, a more positive sentiment about the God damn fun they and we should all be having!!!!

Dang it all.

Zing!

02-14-2013, 02:47 PM

I'm confident everything's gonna...

Hey what the!? A whole shit load of confetti and balloons dropped on my head.

Ohhh it's my 2000 post celebration. Thanks guys!

Hmmm... Must have pushed the wrong button. I thought I hit Sharks With Lasers. Must be your lucky day.

Congrats!

VHscraps

02-14-2013, 02:48 PM

VH used to do several songs from They Only Come Out At Night back then, yet I've never run across "Free Ride" out side of the Vegas shows. The Edgar Winter Group must have cast a pretty big shadow over California kids at the time (I'm still convinced VH started playing "YRGM" after hearing it on a Rick Derringer live album). Hell, Dave even covered "Easy Street" from Winter's follow-up album Shock Treatment on the Crazy From The Heat EP.

Sadly, this crummy version is also the best sounding audio from that era.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgxw-jq7FrY

D'yall know of Pete Frame's 'Rock Family Trees'? As the name implies ... family trees about rock bands! Anyhow, there are Van Halen family tree connections in addition to Roth and Edgar Winter - his They Only Come Out at Night band featured two guys who went on to play with Hagar - Ronnie Montrose and Chuck Ruff.

We need a draughtsman, or someone handy with a pen who has as much time to kill as we spend on here, to do one of these:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UtbmW_5xUm8/TKQgudlH3xI/AAAAAAAACK4/eiYg3cZBXks/s1600/Rock+family+Tree.jpg

Nitro Express

02-14-2013, 03:05 PM

I still can't figure out why people admire assholes like Ozzy Osbourne, Gene Simmons and EVH. Sure, they got a lot of money in the bank but they're basically boring homebody fucks shuffling around as the old lady barks orders at them. Nothing exciting to see here.

Dave read "Huckleberry Finn" at age 8 and decided he was going to make that his life and not just a book he read. All you can really take to the next life is memories and Dave sure got a lot of colorful ones to take with him.

Most people don't have the balls to go down the river. It never was about money for Dave. It was always about the adventure. The money will make you fat and domesticated.

chefcraig

02-14-2013, 03:18 PM

D'yall know of Pete Frame's 'Rock Family Trees'? As the name implies ... family trees about rock bands! Anyhow, there are Van Halen family tree connections in addition to Roth and Edgar Winter - his They Only Come Out at Night band featured two guys who went on to play with Hagar - Ronnie Montrose and Chuck Ruff.

It's quite complicated (the whole Edgar Winter/Derringer/Van Halen deal). Derringer started in the McCoys, who had one big and one less than big hit ("Hang On Sloopy" & a cover of Peggy Lee's "Fever"). That band morphed into Johnny Winter And, which then turned into plain old Johnny Winter after Derringer quit. Thing is, he (Derringer) stayed around long enough to produce J. Winter's best album ever, Still Alive And Well. Next thing ya know, Derringer is helping produce and playing with Edgar Winter's band on They Only Come Out At Night. Ronnie Montrose bails, so Derringer replaces him in the Edgar Winter Group for the next two albums, before forming his own self-named band.

Van Halen would soon cover tunes by Edgar Winter's White Trash, The Edgar Winter Group, Rick Derringer as well as a couple of Johnny Winter songs. Roth went on in his solo career to cover Edgar's version of "Tobacco Road" and "Easy Street." To bring things full circle, Edgar wound up playing on three of Roth's solo albums, and I think he even played with the guy during the Vegas shows.

Oh, and Rick Derringer wound up playing Eddie Van Halen's guitar solo on Weird Al's version of "Beat It", called "Eat It."

Zing!

02-14-2013, 03:27 PM

Didn't Derringer open for The Stones on one of their earlier tours when he was a still a teenager?

chefcraig

02-14-2013, 03:31 PM

Didn't Derringer open for The Stones on one of their earlier tours when he was a still a teenager?

Yep, back when the McCoys' "Hang On Sloopy" was a hit. I think they opened for the whole 1966 tour.