VAN HALEN in the studio????

[Matt White]

So....I just got around to reading the New Wolf von Halen interview up on the interweb.....


something jumped out at me

He also remains part of Van Halen, which will play three shows during June in Japan and is reported to be working on a new album. “There’s plenty of ideas lying around and some new stuff that we’ve been working on, too,” Van Halen reports. “You never know what’ll happen.”

Read more: http://www.vhnd.com/2013/02/18/wolfgang-van-halen-has-plenty-of-musical-options/#ixzz2LJ40WBx7


THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO HEAR!!!!

[vandeleur]

That's more like it

[Matt White]

HELL YEAH!!!!

I want Ed, Al & Wolf cookin' up some new stuff....so DAVE can fucking shine!!! ADKOT proves they've still got the fire!

[fraroc]

Hopefully the RS interview with Dave was the kick up the ol' arse (why am I cursing like a British person) that Ed needed!

[VAiN]

If this is even kind of accurate its exciting news!

[DLR Bridge]

You mean a different kind of accurate?

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

[Northern Girl]

My days of rumors and speculation about this band are over. To keep my sanity, everything just goes in one ear and out the other.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Come on folks....

You know as well as I do that "new stuff that we've been working on" could mean like 37 different things....

[Never was]

Plus it is consistent with what Dave said how ADKOT was made and the source of his gripe. Ed and Wolf write and Dave overlays his thing seperately. Considerring how volatile Dave and Ed are together in a studio together I get it from Ed's point of view work with my kid, music is good, he and Dave don't creatively collide due to their different and strong perspectives.
I get Dave's point all great writing teams create their best work a certain way. They did the classics together and often by brute will. Lennon McCarthy still wrote great songs but when they wrote seperatley it wasn't quite the same. Getting that energy going again of collisions can create greatness so I get the atraction but also dramatically increases the risk of a chernoybl meltdown.
Would love to see truly co-written tunes again but it would be hi risk hi reward scenario.

[BITEYOASS]

Must be part of that ten albums worth of material or some shit like that.

My Mrs. also has to crack the whip in order to get me to do chores whenever I'm been doing avant-garde piano work for ten hours and spend several more placing mattresses on the wall in order to get that perfect sound. I know how you feel Eddie! :rolleye0018: :pinocchio:

[Angel]

Hmmm...Wolf talking about a solo album sounds interesting too.

[Dr. Love]

Come on folks....

You know as well as I do that "new stuff that we've been working on" could mean like 37 different things....

More like 37 more years before they put out something new

[Guitar Shark]

Come on folks....

You know as well as I do that "new stuff that we've been working on" could mean like 37 different things....

Yep, they've had like 10 albums "in the can" for over a decade now... ;)

Still, it's better than nothing!

[Hardrock69]

More like 37 more years before they put out something new

Who cares.....look at her sucking on that tit! :bigwink:

[DLR Bridge]

I find it a bit unusual that he is considered a "full fledged member" of Tremonti's band. Not for the obvious "you can't be in two bands" line from his Dad, but I thought he was just filling in for somebody on that tour. Doing multiple projects is not a crime, but sure can't help Van Halen continue to conquer in the way Dave is lobbying them to do.

[Nitro Express]

Van Halen used to make an album in days. Now it takes them decades to make an album. Ed building that studio truly was a curse. As soon as 5150 came on line the band was fucked.

[Zing!]

I find it a bit unusual that he is considered a "full fledged member" of Tremonti's band. Not for the obvious "you can't be in two bands" line from his Dad, but I thought he was just filling in for somebody on that tour. Doing multiple projects is not a crime, but sure can't help Van Halen continue to conquer in the way Dave is lobbying them to do.

I thought the same thing. Pretty sure Wolf said as much, too. I'm almost certain that the previous bass player had something come up and had to bail on the tour and Wolf learned the set-list in like a day. But it seems like he is IN the band. Who knows - maybe Tremonti will turn out to be a convenient excuse to get MA back in the band.

[Matt White]

- maybe Tremonti will turn out to be a convenient excuse to get MA back in the band.

THAT'S exactly what we're all hoping for!!!

[Northern Girl]

Tremonti is not a full-time gig either though. Just a sideline. Creed is said to be planning more albums/tours.

[DLR Bridge]

Creed is said to be planning more albums/tours.

Now that's terrible news.

[DLR Bridge]

Matt, your post #3 plus #18 equal the right attitude.

[Never was]

Why? Anyone seeking another creed record

[ELVIS]

I never sought any Creed record...

[ZahZoo]

Come on folks....

You know as well as I do that "new stuff that we've been working on" could mean like 37 different things....

That would only be 3 albums worth of material... Now you know Ed says he's got 10... A Different Kind of Bullshit?

How exactly does one tour with another band and be in the studio with Pops and Uncle Fester..?

[Terry]

My days of rumors and speculation about this band are over. To keep my sanity, everything just goes in one ear and out the other.

Yeah. Van Halen, for me, are still in the category of "I'll believe it when it actually happens" for both hypothetical future album releases AND announced tour dates...like, even when the 2012 tour dates were announced and I bought my ticket for Tampa, I still gave my chances of the band actually making it to Tampa and playing at 50/50. Not because I knew when I bought the ticket in February that the tour was gonna eventually be cancelled, but because that's just the way it is with this band now. Like, at the 2008 Tampa show Ed was barely in a condition to play well, and not too long after Tampa THAT tour went on hiatus...then not too long after the 2012 Tampa show the remainder of THAT tour was cancelled.

The other shame of it was that for both tours I ended up watching rehearsal footage on youtube as much for determining if Ed was still able to play as it was to simply enjoy seeing the band, so as to avoid buying a ticket if the group (mainly Ed) weren't up to snuff...

Isn't that an odd turn of events, having to perform due diligence as a Van Halen fan as a means of avoiding a misuse of money re: buying tickets to a potentially bad show? What was long ago once a no-brainer (i.e. Van Halen would provide a kick-ass show) has now become a crap-shoot.

[Nickdfresh]

Come on folks....

You know as well as I do that "new stuff that we've been working on" could mean like 37 different things....

Yeah, he sounds overly vague and obtuse...

[DLR Bridge]

How exactly does one tour with another band and be in the studio with Pops and Uncle Fester..?

Lucky ThrillsNSpills.

[Terry]

That would only be 3 albums worth of material... Now you know Ed says he's got 10... A Different Kind of Bullshit?

How exactly does one tour with another band and be in the studio with Pops and Uncle Fester..?

Ed's been saying he's got "three (or more) album's worth of material" ready to go (and by that I assume in demo form ready to be recorded) for a decade, yet when a new album finally WAS released about half of it was reworked demo tunes from the 1970s. Not that this was a bad thing in terms of the end results, but I suspect that a lot of what Ed has might not be suitable for Van Halenization in terms of Roth singing over it (as opposed to Hagar, who would gladly 'jive' over any old shit Eddie gave him), and the bits that might be usable could potentially be buried within hundreds of hours of 'noodling'...it'd require someone (assumedly Dave, because he's the one who would be singing to it) sitting through hundreds of hours of that stuff to find the diamonds within the dogshit.

[ELVIS]

Newsflash...

EVH is known to be full of shit...

[DLR Bridge]

There could 8 hours of How Many Say I's in that stock pile. And an hour or so of leftover porno music with sustainer abuse.

[Nitro Express]

In the old days Warners was saying,"You guys owe us money and you owe us more albums and oh by the way, you are going back out on the road in a few weeks." Van Halen was under the gun and had to get the album out. Eddie had most the new music written while he was on the road previously. Dave jumped in the back of a limo and penned lyrics as he was driven all over Los Angeles.

They didn't have the luxury of diddling around. Warners was laying a boot in their ass. They were owned. They were property. It's why Prince wrote SLAVE on his face in protest. That being said, the crooked industry squeezed some good music out of people. LOL!

[Nitro Express]

The problem is Eddie no longer fears anyone and he has too much money. The days of "Yes Sir Mr. Templeman." are long gone. Ed is like a stubborn donkey that the more you whip it, the more it's resolve is to fight you. So you have to trick the donkey into moving and that is far from productive.

[Nitro Express]

I think Ed has always been strange. He even has admitted to being so himself. The thing is Ed is no leader. He needs a leader. I think in the past he did what he was told and accepted his fate. It's when Ray Daniels convinced Ed he should be be the leader where everything got fucked. Ed is a specialist. He's the guy you call in when you need specialized expertise. You certainly don't want such types in management. Ed sucks at managing (He can't even manage himself) and he sucks at producing (VH3 Anyone?). Ed is at his best when someone says, He Ed we need this kind of thing, and Ed takes the idea and tries to give that person what they asked for. When Ed sets off to make his own dreams it really sucks.

Ed Van Halen is at his all time best when he's part of a team that includes the right people and Ed is excited about being part of that team.

[ZahZoo]

This reminds me of something Dave mentioned in his recent interview...


I'm not sure what's in Ed's mind at this point. I'm gonna guess that his plans are to write with his son, and I'm not sure where that actually leads. But truth be told, Edward and I haven't written a new song in 20 years.

It's no secret that Ed's motivational catalyst for music is Wolfgang since 2006... It's got to be eating away at Dave terribly to be on the outside looking in... Of course it's even further removed when you are 5400 miles apart in different worlds.

[DLR Bridge]

Yes, Ed is a strange cat....no doubt about it....and I wish he had the drive that Dave has.....but Ed was on fucking fire on the last tour and album.

I'm kinda hoping he's still on fire and that we're all just a bunch of impatient mo-fos.

[DLR Bridge]

This reminds me of something Dave mentioned in his recent interview...



It's no secret that Ed's motivational catalyst for music is Wolfgang since 2006... It's got to be eating away at Dave terribly to be on the outside looking in... Of course it's even further removed when you are 5400 miles apart in different worlds.

Didn't they (Ed, Al & Dave) say on one of those Vimeos from last year that the band recorded all of VH II and then, called Dave up and said "you're up" so to speak? I can understand Dave wanting the camaraderie that goes with the collaborative effort, like the pre-WB days, but is the way things are done now so different from how the bulk of the 6 pack was done?

I do like Dave's use of the expression "wood shed" though. Only people who mean business with their art break that term out.

[DLR Bridge]

Isn't that an odd turn of events, having to perform due diligence as a Van Halen fan as a means of avoiding a misuse of money re: buying tickets to a potentially bad show? What was long ago once a no-brainer (i.e. Van Halen would provide a kick-ass show) has now become a crap-shoot.

I've pretty much decided to employ what I call the "Frank Sinatra" decision tactic from here on out with VH. Die hard Sinatra fans knew they weren't getting the ol Blue Eyes of old by the time the mid 1980s rolled around. They just went out of love for the guy and never knowing if each time they saw him would be their last or not. I'm that hopeless a fan of this band. Only a return to the Hagar era could change my mind.

[ZahZoo]

Didn't they (Ed, Al & Dave) say on one of those Vimeos from last year that the band recorded all of VH II and then, called Dave up and said "you're up" so to speak? I can understand Dave wanting the camaraderie that goes with the collaborative effort, like the pre-WB days, but is the way things are done now so different from how the bulk of the 6 pack was done?

I do like Dave's use of the expression "wood shed" though. Only people who mean business with their art break that term out.

I'm not sure that was VH II... from what I recall reading was all 4 members were in the studio composing and most of the stuff was all recorded live with very little over dubs with some lead guitar and backing vocals mostly. It wasn't until Ed built 5150 that he had a place to write and compose and have vocals phoned in...

[FORD]

Tremonti is not a full-time gig either though. Just a sideline. Creed is said to be planning more albums/tours.

How about this for a scenario......

Now that Scott Stapp has re-embraced his fundagelical roots (he was even on the 700 Club a while back) maybe the other members of Creed are fed up with him, and will kick him out of the band. They can hire Hagar as a singer, since he would love to sing "With Arms Wide Open" and all that other shit. And if Wolf wants to play bass for them, that's OK.

Without the ball and chain of the Chedmaster in the way, Mike Sobolewski finds himself available for Van HALEN.

[Fairwrning]

Yep, they've had like 10 albums "in the can" for over a decade now... ;)

Still, it's better than nothing!

Agree..where is all this material he was writing all these years..I love ADKOT but we all know it was written years ago (except lyrics)...according to Ed they could release a double Cd..

[Fairwrning]

My days of rumors and speculation about this band are over. To keep my sanity, everything just goes in one ear and out the other.

Spoken like a true fan..been way too much bullshit

[78/84 guy]

Agree..where is all this material he was writing all these years..I love ADKOT but we all know it was written years ago (except lyrics)...according to Ed they could release a double Cd..

Maybe they should. Clean house. Problem is everyone wants the old stuff in concert. Not A bad idea though.

[Hardrock69]

I've pretty much decided to employ what I call the "Frank Sinatra" decision tactic from here on out with VH. Die hard Sinatra fans knew they weren't getting the ol Blue Eyes of old by the time the mid 1980s rolled around. They just went out of love for the guy and never knowing if each time they saw him would be their last or not. I'm that hopeless a fan of this band. Only a return to the Hagar era could change my mind.

Dude that is LITERALLY why I went to see Frank at Long Beach Arena in February 1991.

Hell NO he was not going to be able to sing like in his younger days (50 years before...).

I went because I COULD and because I was never going to be able to see him again!

It was true....that was the only time in my life I got to see him, and I feel extremely fortunate to have been able to see him just once.

SO...as for VH...if I never get to see them again, I am fine with it. I finally got to see the 3/4 VH (2 ways of 3/4 actually - blood and band), and so I am satisfied.

Only thing I wish I could see again would be the original 4, but I have given up on that a long time ago.

[chi-town324]

Tremonti has said that he is writing new material while on this mini tour for the next alter bridge album. His other full time gig...now if Wolf is asked to join alter bridge we might have some real drama...

[Never was]

But no one wants Dave to go back 50 years like Sinatra had to , how about just to the last tour when he put in a ton of vocal work for his bluegrass project which rolled into the VH renunion. He doesn't need to be 25 again, just 55. That probably should be his bigger concern than the background vocals.

Dave is Dave either way

[Northern Girl]

But no one wants Dave to go back 50 years like Sinatra had to , how about just to the last tour when he put in a ton of vocal work for his bluegrass project which rolled into the VH renunion. He doesn't need to be 25 again, just 55. That probably should be his bigger concern than the background vocals.

Dave is Dave either way

Every time I see your name, my head starts singing "same as it never was, same as it never was!"

Ass! :flame:

[DLR Bridge]

Isn't it "same as it ever was"?

[Northern Girl]

Isn't it "same as it ever was"?

Duh!

Ass! :flame:

[DLR Bridge]

I'm sorry. Didn't realize you were a fan of alliteration.:doh:

[Zing!]

But no one wants Dave to go back 50 years like Sinatra had to , how about just to the last tour when he put in a ton of vocal work for his bluegrass project which rolled into the VH renunion. He doesn't need to be 25 again, just 55. That probably should be his bigger concern than the background vocals.

Dave is Dave either way

I've said it before: DLR can't move like he used to (and who can blame him?) I'd rather he retire the goofy vaudeville schtick, work his ass off getting his voice back, and simply stand at the mic and wail. I'm not expecting to hear his voice go back to his prime - but a return to '07-'08 would be cool.

[ELVIS]

I could do without the dance floor and the Liza Minnelli meets Mr. Furley wardrobe...:biggrin:

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I could do without the dance floor and the Liza Minnelli meets Mr. Furley wardrobe...:biggrin:

I actually likened it to Liza's mother, Judy Garland, but the judges will accept Liza as well.... ;)

[ELVIS]

:biggrin:

[Nickdfresh]

I'm not sure that was VH II... from what I recall reading was all 4 members were in the studio composing and most of the stuff was all recorded live with very little over dubs with some lead guitar and backing vocals mostly. It wasn't until Ed built 5150 that he had a place to write and compose and have vocals phoned in...

That's pretty much what I've always gotten. There's no way that Ed and Al were doing a cover of "You're No Good" without Dave...

[VHscraps]

Until 5150 was built all the songs were cooked up / knocked into shape in Dave's basement. Ted would go over after a while and pick the songs.

There's no way Ed was handing Dave finished music and saying 'just stick your thing on this'. Dave - and Hagar - were working with Ed to turn ideas and pieces of music into songs.

Hagar said in an interview when his book came out - 'my job was to turn Ed's ideas into songs, and before me it was Dave's job - and that's why there has been nothing else for 12 years'.

[Matt White]

Yup....DAVE was the "musical director" of CLASSIC VAN HALEN...............

his input was essential to those songs sounding the way they do

[DLR Bridge]

I've always thought that was the case. It was just something Dave or Ed said when they were all sitting stools, shooting the shit, that sounded like a lot was whipped up before Dave had gotten to the studio for VH II. Still, that's that's not saying he didn't have a hand in the crafting of those songs either as a good half of them were club days staples.

[Fairwrning]

Yup....DAVE was the "musical director" of CLASSIC VAN HALEN...............

his input was essential to those songs sounding the way they do

Compare EEAS to 5150...yeah..Dave was, and is, the backbone of this band..ANY other singer in 1978 and they would have struggled...even with Ed playing guitar.

[fryingdutchman]

I'm tellin' ya...

I want to see a "true" reunion as much as anyone...

But the only way that Michael Anthony gets back in the band is if Wolfgang voluntarily steps aside and tells his Dad that there is "no other option."

And I don't see that happening.

[jhale667]

I'm tellin' ya...

I want to see a "true" reunion as much as anyone...

But the only way that Michael Anthony gets back in the band is if Wolfgang voluntarily steps aside and tells his Dad that there is "no other option."

And I don't see that happening.



It's not like Dave and Al can order Ed to do it, but Wolf seems to be having fun w/ Tremonti... plus, it could just be touted as a (belated 40th anni, whatevs) REUNION tour, it wouldn't necessarily mean WVH has to step out of the picture permanently... but yeah, I'll believe it when I see it.



:guitar:

[Eyes of the Night]

Did anyone mention that they are scheduled to play japan in april?
:doh: