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  • Hardrock69
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Feb 2005
    • 21888

    I'm Looking Fo' Legba......You Him????







    Willie Brown, where are you?
    Posted in Collector Resources, Features, Flashback | Tags: 45s, 78s, blues, LPs, Paramount, rare records, records, Willie Brown
    January 18, 2011

    By Susan Sliwicki

    YOU KNOW YOU’RE A BIG DEAL when blues legend Robert Johnson name-checks you in a song (“Crossroads”), and you’re backing Charley Patton and Son House. So why are two of Willie Brown’s three Paramount records MIA?



    That’s a mystery many collectors want to solve, including John Tefteller of Tefteller’s World’s Rarest Records. While many blues records deemed “unfindable” have turned up in the last 20 years, Brown’s Paramount 13001 (“Grandma Blues” b/w “Sorry Blues”) and Paramount 13099 (“Kicking In My Sleep Blues” b/w “Window Blues”) aren’t among them. In fact, Paramount 13001 used to turn up as a blank number in discographies, as everyone assumed it wasn’t issued, he said. Only Paramount 13090, Brown’s “M&O Blues” b/w “Future Blues,” has been found.

    Tefteller is putting his money where his mouth is. He’s offering $25,000 to anyone who turns up either record in playable condition.

    “Yes, I’d like to buy them, and, yes, I’d pay an immense amount of money to own them,” he admitted. “But just hearing them would be good.”

    So why is the fascination with Brown’s missing records so strong?

    “Because of how great ‘Future Blues’ is,” Tefteller said. “They just have to be magnificent records; they have to be long-lost masterpieces, based on how good he is on everything else he played on.”

    Got a lead on the missing Willie Brown 78s? Contact John Tefteller via e-mail at john@tefteller.com or call 1-800-955-1326.



    Brown’s “Future Blues” has been covered by artists including Canned Heat, Dr. John and Johnny Winter. In “Future Blues,” Brown employs a guitar technique where he snaps the guitar strings, which, along with great lyrics and a great performance, adds up to an all-time great blues record, Tefteller said.

    Tefteller is positive that copies of Paramount 13099 and 13001 exist, even though they haven’t been spotted since the 1930s. In 1935, Paramount mailed a clutch of masters to Columbia, with the hope the New York label might lease them. The master for Paramount 13001 was among those sent to Columbia in 1935, according an inventory list sent to Columbia in 1935 and returned to Paramount — proof that the record was pressed and does exist, he said.

    “There have to be copies out there. Nobody’s going to convince me that there’s not copies out there until I’m dead and we haven’t found one, and then I’m still not gonna be convinced, because I think they’re out there,” Tefteller said. “They’re hiding in some home, in some closet, in some attic, in some barn.”

    While few Paramount masters survive, there is a chance that the Willie Brown masters are still around. So how can you tell if you have a missing Willie Brown master?

    It would be a thick, aluminum disc about 10-1/2 inches in diameter, possibly in an envelope bearing engineering notes and maybe the artist’s name, Tefteller said.

    While the discs may not be marked Paramount, Brown’s missing songs were from the L master series, meaning the number L-414, L-415, L-416 or L-417 would appear somewhere on the master disc, depending on the song, he said.

    Tefteller is confident that any Willie Brown recordings that might be found would be the real deal, as there are no audio tracks to fake them from, and no one could play like Brown.

    “If they turn up, they’re gonna be legitimate,” Tefteller said. “They could turn up on tests or actual pressings.”

    While you’re hunting for Brown’s records, you also might want to watch for a picture of him. Even though Alan Lomax recorded Brown, Son House and Muddy Waters performing in the early 1940s for a Library of Congress project, he didn’t take a photo of the session. That was unusual, because Lomax traveled with recording equipment and a camera, and photos exist from almost every other session Lomax ever did.

    “No one seems to know why, because there are no notations in his archives,” Tefteller said.
    Last edited by Hardrock69; 05-26-2013, 12:53 PM.
  • Hardrock69
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Feb 2005
    • 21888

    #2
    Future Blues featuring Willie Brown on guitar with Charley Patton.....recorded 1928 to 1930...
    Last edited by Hardrock69; 05-26-2013, 12:57 PM.

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    • ThrillsNSpills
      ROTH ARMY ELITE
      • Jan 2004
      • 6627

      #3
      Great playing in that movie. But you knew that.

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      • VHscraps
        Veteran
        • Jul 2009
        • 1867

        #4
        Originally posted by Hardrock69
        Future Blues featuring Willie Brown on guitar with Charley Patton.....recorded 1928 to 1930...
        Thanks for a great pst HR. I have never heard Willie Brown until following your link, but knew only of the legend from that movie. Great stuff. Really like "M&O Blues", which was on youtube as well.
        THINK LIKE THE WAVES

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        • chefcraig
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Apr 2004
          • 12172

          #5
          Scratch: You looking for me, Willie Brown? Been a long time, hasn't it, Willie? You about 17 last time we saw each other. One night on this old crossroad, wasn't it?
          Willie Brown: I come to see you, tell you the deal is off. Now, you slipped up on your end of things. I didn't end up where I wanted. I didn't end up with nothing, didn't get nothing!
          Scratch: You got what you was supposed to get, bluesman! Ain't nothing ever as good as we want it to be! But that ain't no reason to break a deal... got me this big white fella from Memphis made a deal with me; real good guitar player, name of Jack Butler.
          Lightning: You got him, you got me too. Where and when for this thing?
          Scratch: Oh, I can get us there real quick. Jack Butler's gonna love you.









          “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
          ― Stephen Hawking

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          • jhale667
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 20929

            #6
            Yeah, that's some cool stuff... thanks HR!
            Originally posted by conmee
            If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

            That is all.

            Icon.
            Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
            I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


            Originally posted by Isaac R.
            Then it's really true??:eek:

            The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

            OMFG...who in their right mind...???
            Originally posted by eddie78
            I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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            • jhale667
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 20929

              #7








              Last edited by jhale667; 05-26-2013, 02:47 PM.
              Originally posted by conmee
              If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

              That is all.

              Icon.
              Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
              I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


              Originally posted by Isaac R.
              Then it's really true??:eek:

              The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

              OMFG...who in their right mind...???
              Originally posted by eddie78
              I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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              • cadaverdog
                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                • Aug 2007
                • 8955

                #8
                I made a deal with the devil. Then I crawfished and drilled that old devil right in the ass.
                Beware of Dog

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                • Satan
                  ROTH ARMY ELITE
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 6664

                  #9
                  Originally posted by cadaverdog
                  I made a deal with the devil. Then I crawfished and drilled that old devil right in the ass.
                  Better stick to your socks, and keep those fantasies to yourself. The gates of Hell don't swing that direction.
                  Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

                  Originally posted by Sockfucker
                  I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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                  • cadaverdog
                    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 8955

                    #10
                    You're just pissed off because I didn't give you a reach around. I heard when you went down to Georgia some redneck made you squeal like a pig. I guess the story that you got tossed from Heaven for being a homo is true. God made you the first flaming homo.
                    Beware of Dog

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                    • Hardrock69
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 21888

                      #11
                      You guys are welcome. I always knew there was a real Willie Brown, and he was a close friend of Robert Johnson's.

                      That movie has so many classic lines in it....


                      "Where I come from a man ain't got no wheels, he don't get no pussy".

                      "Now now...things are gettin' just a bit outta control..."



                      "I don't wanna hear no shit about no license or papers or nothin....."

                      "Well sah....I say dat's a mighty fine lookin' car you got deah!"


                      The Sheriff......played by the actor the late John Hancock.....that muffukkah be comin' up to me I would be scared shitless.....




                      That song "Hush (Somebody's Callin' My Name)" is kickass.....so appropriate.

                      Also, I know where the actual crossroads is that was used in the movie.



                      Supposedly about 2 miles SE of Beulah, MS...

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                      • Hardrock69
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 21888

                        #12
                        Ok, so I have known the supposed crossroads location from the movie for years just from internet research....but never exactly pinned it down.....I got it I think.



                        Someone already posted a photo in Google Earth.

                        It is looking South from the intersection at 33° 46' 36.97" N 90° 57' 16.28" W



                        It took me a lot of searching, as there are very few references to this location in regards to the Karate Kid Movie Of Blooze.....finally I found a web page that is a supposed registry of movie locations in Mississippi:

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                        It says the location is "Watson Road off Highway 1 near Beulah". Well, there is NO "Watson Road" near Beulah. There IS however, a Walton Road. So I just went east on Walton Road from the south edge of Beulah, and it intersects with Frazier Road which runs North and South. It is Frazier Road that had the tree on it in the photo above. I am 90% sure. Have to leave margin for error, lol.

                        Here is a screen cap - I read years ago that a tornado blew that tree over.....and if you look on the left side of the road in my screen cap from Google Earth, you can see a place where it looks like the tree could have been....

                        Here is the photo posted in Google Earth:

                        Last edited by Hardrock69; 05-26-2013, 10:30 PM.

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                        • chefcraig
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 12172

                          #13
                          "You drive these fellas out on Grange Road, past Dockery'..."









                          “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                          ― Stephen Hawking

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                          • Igosplut
                            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 2794

                            #14
                            Well he's headed towards the crossroads anyway.

                            Von will like this

                            Last edited by Igosplut; 05-26-2013, 10:52 PM.
                            Chainsaw Muthuafucka

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                            • Hardrock69
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 21888

                              #15
                              Von likes &no=7&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=1248ene2p&sigb=1381r5g4 r&sigi=11vmsvl9r&.crumb=bIm3SGQf3ca&fr=yff80-sfp ????

                              I do too.

                              &no=7&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=1248ene2p&sigb=1381r5g4 r&sigi=11vmsvl9r&.crumb=bIm3SGQf3ca&fr=yff80-sfp is my favorite.

                              In fact, it is my favorite &no=7&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=1248ene2p&sigb=1381r5g4 r&sigi=11vmsvl9r&.crumb=bIm3SGQf3ca&fr=yff80-sfp of all of them.



                              I see you fixed it, lol.
                              Last edited by Hardrock69; 05-26-2013, 10:56 PM.

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