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  • Hardrock69
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    • Feb 2005
    • 21888

    If You Celebrate The 4th Of July, You Could Be A Terrorist, According To ATF..



    NASHVILLE, Tenn. -

    As we get closer to Independence Day and all its festivities, a federal task force is warning fireworks retailers to be on the look-out for suspicious buyers.

    The National Explosives Task Force has issued an advisory to fireworks retailers to look for customers who display suspicious activity when purchasing items.

    The Task Force is asking retailers to keep a watchful eye out for customers who ask about how to take apart or modify the fireworks or who seek to purchase commercial-grade fireworks.

    The advisory comes months after the Boston Marathon bombing that killed three people and injured more than 250 others.

    Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and his deceased brother, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, are accused of detonating bombs made from pressure cookers, low-explosive powder and shrapnel.

    According to a grand jury indictment, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, bought 48 mortars containing eight pounds of low-explosive powder from Phantom Fireworks in New Hampshire back in February.

    "I knew immediately that they had done something with these fireworks that were not normal use, that they had taken them and cut them open and taking power and done things they weren't supposed to do," Titan Fireworks owner Aaron Blankenship said.

    Blankenship, who has 15 fireworks stands across the state of Tennessee, told Nashville's News 2 in his 12 years in the business he has encountered some customers he felt were up to no good.

    "Between three and five years ago when we had an influx of teenagers buying sparklers that were trying to do some modifications and those were red flags," he recalled.

    Blankenship added, "There are red flags things that you would see that normally wouldn't be bought that make you kind of as retailer ask yourself, ‘Why did they buy that?' and that's the things we all have to careful of."

    In the Volunteer State, unless a person has a Class B Power Technician license, fireworks can not be modified from their original state.

  • chefcraig
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Apr 2004
    • 12172

    #2
    Blankenship added, "There are red flags things that you would see that normally wouldn't be bought that make you kind of as retailer ask yourself, ‘Why did they buy that?' and that's the things we all have to careful of."

    "Hi. I'd like to purchase a box of M-80s, a couple bags of fertilizer and fifty gallons of gasoline. Can I get that all here, or do I have to shop for these items separately?"









    “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
    ― Stephen Hawking

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    • jhale667
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 20929

      #3
      Asking the fireworks salesman about the "blast radius" is probably a red flag, too...
      Originally posted by conmee
      If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

      That is all.

      Icon.
      Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
      I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


      Originally posted by Isaac R.
      Then it's really true??:eek:

      The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

      OMFG...who in their right mind...???
      Originally posted by eddie78
      I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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      • ELVIS
        Banned
        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        #4
        According to a grand jury indictment, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, bought 48 mortars containing eight pounds of low-explosive powder from Phantom Fireworks in New Hampshire back in February.
        That's such fucking bullshit...

        The Tsarnaev brothers were working for and set up by the CIA...

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        • Sensible Shoes
          Full Member Status

          • Oct 2009
          • 4648

          #5
          Here we go.....

          Oh dear.

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          • Seshmeister
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Oct 2003
            • 35197

            #6
            You shouldn't be celebrating anyway - it should be a national day of mourning...

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            • Seshmeister
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Oct 2003
              • 35197

              #7
              Probably not worth your while going to Lakewood Ohio...

              Last edited by Seshmeister; 07-02-2013, 05:36 PM.

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              • ELVIS
                Banned
                • Dec 2003
                • 44120

                #8
                Originally posted by Seshmeister
                You shouldn't be celebrating anyway - it should be a national day of mourning...
                That's exactly right...

                I'm not celebrating shit...

                I'm in open protest...

                What's to celebrate ??

                The sheep have no fucking clue...

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                • ELVIS
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 44120

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Seshmeister
                  Probably not worth your while going to Lakewood Ohio...
                  What would you celebrate anyway ??

                  The fact that Ohio once upon a time had jobs ??

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                  • Seshmeister
                    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                    • Oct 2003
                    • 35197

                    #10
                    Nice of the Russians to set one off for you, a couple of days early though.

                    You really get a sense of the speed of sound v speed of light on this...


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                    • Kristy
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                      • Aug 2004
                      • 16338

                      #11
                      That must be the crap they were selling to North Korea

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49205

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Seshmeister
                        You shouldn't be celebrating anyway - it should be a national day of mourning...
                        You shut your whore Queen-lovin' mouth!

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49205

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ELVIS
                          That's exactly right...

                          I'm not celebrating shit...

                          I'm in open protest...

                          What's to celebrate ??

                          The sheep have no fucking clue...

                          You --sitting in that swamp-- will really stick it to the man!

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                          • Hardrock69
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 21888

                            #14
                            Holy fuck!

                            That fucking video is a trip!!!

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                            • Hardrock69
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 21888

                              #15
                              At least our crummy little fireworks over here usually only have some variety of gunpowder in them.....not all the fucking toxic shit that has contaminated that area now....




                              The Russian rocket that exploded during lift-off on Tuesday morning has already cost the country's government more than $200 million — the estimated value of the three GLONASS satellites that the Proton-M was carrying. But the crash might also be accompanied by significant ecological tolls and human health problems due to the toxic nature of the outdated fuel combination the rocket relies on.

                              "These propellants are carcinogenic, toxic, and highly reactive," said Mike Gruntman, a professor of aerospace engineering at the University of Southern California. "As the explosion occurred near the launch site, it would cause a major contamination of the area."

                              "An ominous chemical cloud"

                              To be specific, the Proton-M — a booster rocket used for decades to carry commercial and military payloads — relies on a combination of unsymmetrical dimethylhydrazine (better known as heptyl fuel) and nitrogen tetroxide. Used together, the components combust to yield huge quantities of energy, necessary to propel the massive, 17-story rocket and its load. During Tuesday's accident, the rocket was carrying 600 tons of fuel, which blanketed the crash site in an ominous chemical cloud for hours following the explosion.

                              It might be toxic, but the propellant is also the necessary go-to for the Proton-M: the Proton family of rockets were initially designed as dual-use vehicles, to serve as space launchers and intercontinental ballistic missiles during the Cold War. As a result, the Proton-M still needs propellants that can be stored "for ICBM readiness [over] several years," Gruntman explained. The requirement rules out commonly used cryogenic propellants, like liquid hydrogen, which are significantly cleaner. The US once used a similar rocket to the Proton-M, called the Titan, but it was retired in 2005 and replaced with rockets that rely on these cleaner substances.

                              ""Carcinogenic, mutagenic, convulsant, teratogenic...""

                              Unfortunately, Russia's struggling space program simply hasn't kept up. "Development of a space launcher is extremely expensive," Gruntman said. "So it often makes economic sense to use what is already there, rather than developing new — though better — vehicles." Russia's technological lag, however, has already been blamed for health and environmental problems in the vicinity of the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. In one 2008 analysis of heptyl's regional impact, researchers described the compound as "carcinogenic, mutagenic, convulsant, teratogenic and embryotoxic." They also noted that remnants of burned heptyl were "persistent in the soil environment ... and remain in the environment for a significantly longer time than originally anticipated."

                              As this research points out, even remnants of heptyl burned during a successful launch can stick around and yield undesirable side effects. That's been a point of contention for years between the Russian and Kazakh governments, the latter having pushed several times for more comprehensive environmental cleanup following launches. Earlier this year, Kazakhstan — which rents the Baikonur Cosmodrome to Russia for $115 million per year — threatened to curb the number of yearly Proton launches due to concerns over health problems and acid rain, among other ecological woes.

                              ""There is no way to prevent contamination.""

                              Russia does have plans to replace the Proton-M with the Angara 5 rocket, a launcher that'll rely on cryogenics rather than toxic alternatives. Though development of the Angara family of rockets is now years behind, the Angara 5 is likely to be ready for deployment by 2020. When it is, the rocket will be launched at a new cosmodrome, Vostochny, which is being built to facilitate launches over the Pacific Ocean — rather than populated land masses vulnerable to the environmental effects of space missions.

                              Still, Russian officials have consistently denied that Proton-M launches — and failures, of which there have been several — cause any problems. Following Tuesday's explosion, leaders at the Russian space agency quickly announced that most of the heptyl aboard the Proton-M had burned up completely, and that heavy rains had dissipated the fuel cloud, mitigating any potential risks. Gruntman, for one, disagrees. "There is no way to prevent contamination," he said. "When something goes wrong, everything will be spread all over the place."

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