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  • Dr. Love
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Jan 2004
    • 7825

    I have no regrets



    I Have No Regrets

    Snowden reiterated his view that U.S. cyber programs are “illegal” and “immoral,” framing his leaks as a “moral decision.”

    By Edward Snowden

    July 12, 2013 "Information Clearing House - Hello. My name is Ed Snowden. A little over one month ago, I had family, a home in paradise, and I lived in great comfort. I also had the capability without any warrant to search for, seize, and read your communications. Anyone’s communications at any time. That is the power to change people’s fates.

    It is also a serious violation of the law. The 4th and 5th Amendments to the Constitution of my country, Article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and numerous statutes and treaties forbid such systems of massive, pervasive surveillance. While the US Constitution marks these programs as illegal, my government argues that secret court rulings, which the world is not permitted to see, somehow legitimize an illegal affair. These rulings simply corrupt the most basic notion of justice – that it must be seen to be done. The immoral cannot be made moral through the use of secret law.

    I believe in the principle declared at Nuremberg in 1945: "Individuals have international duties which transcend the national obligations of obedience. Therefore individual citizens have the duty to violate domestic laws to prevent crimes against peace and humanity from occurring."

    Accordingly, I did what I believed right and began a campaign to correct this wrongdoing. I did not seek to enrich myself. I did not seek to sell US secrets. I did not partner with any foreign government to guarantee my safety. Instead, I took what I knew to the public, so what affects all of us can be discussed by all of us in the light of day, and I asked the world for justice.

    That moral decision to tell the public about spying that affects all of us has been costly, but it was the right thing to do and I have no regrets.

    Since that time, the government and intelligence services of the United States of America have attempted to make an example of me, a warning to all others who might speak out as I have. I have been made stateless and hounded for my act of political expression. The United States Government has placed me on no-fly lists. It demanded Hong Kong return me outside of the framework of its laws, in direct violation of the principle of non-refoulement – the Law of Nations. It has threatened with sanctions countries who would stand up for my human rights and the UN asylum system. It has even taken the unprecedented step of ordering military allies to ground a Latin American president’s plane in search for a political refugee. These dangerous escalations represent a threat not just to the dignity of Latin America, but to the basic rights shared by every person, every nation, to live free from persecution, and to seek and enjoy asylum.

    Yet even in the face of this historically disproportionate aggression, countries around the world have offered support and asylum. These nations, including Russia, Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, and Ecuador have my gratitude and respect for being the first to stand against human rights violations carried out by the powerful rather than the powerless. By refusing to compromise their principles in the face of intimidation, they have earned the respect of the world. It is my intention to travel to each of these countries to extend my personal thanks to their people and leaders.

    I announce today my formal acceptance of all offers of support or asylum I have been extended and all others that may be offered in the future. With, for example, the grant of asylum provided by Venezuela’s President Maduro, my asylee status is now formal, and no state has a basis by which to limit or interfere with my right to enjoy that asylum. As we have seen, however, some governments in Western European and North American states have demonstrated a willingness to act outside the law, and this behavior persists today. This unlawful threat makes it impossible for me to travel to Latin America and enjoy the asylum granted there in accordance with our shared rights.

    This willingness by powerful states to act extra-legally represents a threat to all of us, and must not be allowed to succeed. Accordingly, I ask for your assistance in requesting guarantees of safe passage from the relevant nations in securing my travel to Latin America, as well as requesting asylum in Russia until such time as these states accede to law and my legal travel is permitted. I will be submitting my request to Russia today, and hope it will be accepted favorably.

    If you have any questions, I will answer what I can.

    Thank you.
    I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

    http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif
  • flappo
    Banned
    • Jan 2004
    • 8016

    #2
    the people in charge are scared of the masses , you can smell it can't you ?

    i mean the zionist bankers who really run the world

    not the assholes they put up front for us plebs to 'vote' for

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    • Whorehey
      Head Fluffer
      • Jan 2012
      • 314

      #3
      And they are assholes, reading off teleprompters.
      'Cause three holes are better than a hole-in-one!!!

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      • Dr. Love
        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
        • Jan 2004
        • 7825

        #4
        Apparently President Carter condemned the US Government today over its PRISM program, saying America has no functional democracy, and defended Edward Snowden. Only the Germans seem to be running the story, it's not showing up in US media.
        I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

        http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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        • kwame k
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Feb 2008
          • 11302

          #5
          Sad that people forget that our Founding Fathers warned against such treatment and are ignorant of the statements they've made!

          I was reminded of this when the un-Patriot Act passed and am reminded of it now!

          Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

          And this one!

          Freedom of speech is a principal pillar of a free government; when this support is taken away, the constitution of a free society is dissolved, and tyranny is erected on its ruins.

          Ben Franklin quotes, BTW!
          Originally posted by vandeleur
          E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 58759

            #6
            Jimmy Carter was the last actual Democratic President.

            And fuck the right wing mythological bullshit narrative, he was far better than anybody who came after him too.

            So far anyway....... I'd really hate to believe we could never have someone like him again. Let alone someone like FDR.
            Eat Us And Smile

            Cenk For America 2024!!

            Justice Democrats


            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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            • kwame k
              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
              • Feb 2008
              • 11302

              #7
              Not under our current political system and I see it not changing anytime soon!

              People just straight up don't give a fuck!

              But we have hope that Congress can and will pass the reforms necessary to change our current system
              Originally posted by vandeleur
              E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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              • Dr. Love
                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                • Jan 2004
                • 7825

                #8
                I just find it amazing that a former President can speak out on something as big of this and so critically of the government and the national media is absolutely silent on it.

                Goes to show you where the power is.
                I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

                http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 58759

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dr. Love
                  I just find it amazing that a former President can speak out on something as big of this and so critically of the government and the national media is absolutely silent on it.

                  Goes to show you where the power is.
                  The whore media?
                  Eat Us And Smile

                  Cenk For America 2024!!

                  Justice Democrats


                  "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                  • kwame k
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 11302

                    #10
                    Yep!

                    When you deregulate the safe guards that stop a monopoly like we see in the media this is what you get! Could you imagine how worse it would be with Ron Paul deregulating everything in sight

                    Sure shows how that philosophy of the markets correcting itself works out

                    Sorry, Doc! Couldn't resist!
                    Originally posted by vandeleur
                    E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                    • Dr. Love
                      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 7825

                      #11
                      Nah, Ron Paul would probably be dead by now, killed for having drug all the people responsible for the 2008 financial collapse to trial. He always said that there was much more important things to fix than try to deregulate everything. Bring the troops home, stop interfering with other countries, fix the problems here.

                      What do you think a President Paul's response would have been to PRISM?

                      What do you think of President Obama's response so far?
                      I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

                      http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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                      • Dr. Love
                        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 7825

                        #12
                        Originally posted by FORD
                        The whore media?
                        The companies that own the media (and most of the government)
                        I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

                        http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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                        • LoungeMachine
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 32555

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dr. Love
                          What do you think of President Obama's response so far?
                          Originally posted by Kristy
                          Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                          Originally posted by cadaverdog
                          I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                          • kwame k
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 11302

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dr. Love
                            Nah, Ron Paul would probably be dead by now, killed for having drug all the people responsible for the 2008 financial collapse to trial. He always said that there was much more important things to fix than try to deregulate everything. Bring the troops home, stop interfering with other countries, fix the problems here.

                            What do you think a President Paul's response would have been to PRISM?

                            What do you think of President Obama's response so far?
                            I'm lukewarm to what Obama has and more importantly has not done!

                            That's why I didn't vote for him a second time!

                            The worse threat to the American way of life is Congress!
                            Originally posted by vandeleur
                            E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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