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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49136

    Soviet Spetnaz, er, "Russian Patriots" Sieze Ukrainian Police Station

    Armed men seize eastern Ukraine police station
    Associated Press
    By PETER LEONARD 42 minutes ago

    Armed pro-Russian activists occupy the police station carrying riot shields as people watch on, in the eastern Ukraine town of Slovyansk on Saturday, April 12, 2014. Pro-Moscow protesters have seized a number of government buildings in the east over the past week, undermining the authority of the interim government in the capital, Kiev. (AP Photo/Efrem Lukatsky)

    SLOVYANSK, Ukraine (AP) — Several dozen armed men seized a police station in a city in eastern Ukraine and hoisted the Russian flag above the building Saturday as tensions in the country's Russian-speaking regions intensify.

    The city of Slovyansk is about 90 kilometers (55 miles) north of the regional center, Donetsk, where pro-Russian protesters have occupied a government building for nearly a week.

    About 20 men in balaclavas armed with automatic rifles and pistols were guarding the entrance to the police station in the city of about 120,000 people, and another 20 were believed to be inside. They wore St. George's ribbons, which have become a symbol of pro-Russian protesters in eastern Ukraine. The ribbons were originally associated with the Soviet Union's victory in World War II.

    Eastern Ukraine, which has a large Russian-speaking population, has seen waves of protests since Kremlin-friendly President Viktor Yanukovych was ousted in late February. The protesters allege that the authorities who took over are nationalists and "fascists" who aim to suppress the ethnic Russians in Ukraine.

    The predominantly ethnic Russian region of Crimea voted in a referendum last month to split off from Ukraine and was subsequently annexed by Russia in moves that West has denounced as illegitimate.

    A masked guard in Slovyansk, who gave his name only as Sergei, told The Associated Press they have "only one demand: a referendum and joining Russia."

    The man said they seized the building because they wanted to protect it from radical nationalists from western Ukraine and "the junta who seized power in Kiev."

    "We don't want to be slaves of America and the West," he said. "We want to live with Russia."

    The Interior Ministry said in a statement that the attackers' goal was to seize arms from the police station. They said there were about 40 automatic rifles and 400 pistols as well as ammunition inside.

    A video from the scene saw one man carrying a sniper rifle. An AP reporter saw another man loading the magazine of a pistol at the police station.

    Interior Minister Arsen Avakov pledged a "very tough response" to the seizure while local media reported special forces dispatched to the area.

    Local sympathizers brought tires to the police station to start building barricades.

    Gunshots rang out in the background in a video from the scene after an armed man shouted to a cameraman to stop recording. No casualties were immediately reported.

    An Associated Press crew saw about 10 men wearing camouflage and carrying automatic rifles at the entrance to the town late Saturday afternoon. The men were building a barricade with tires.

    The Kiev authorities and the United States have accused Russia of fomenting the unrest in the east and seeking to use it as a pretext for sending in troops. Russia has massed forces in areas near the Ukrainian border.

    But Mayor Nelya Shtepa told the AP that she held talks with the protesters and said they were local residents, not Russians.
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    "They told me: 'We don't have anything against you,' " she said, adding that the men said they "want to be heard, want a dialogue with authorities in Kiev."

    Protesters, who have held the administration building in Donetsk since Sunday, initially called for a referendum on secession but later reduced the demand to a vote on autonomy within Ukraine with the possibility of holding another later on whether to join Russia.

    Russia's Foreign Ministry on Friday warned the Ukrainian government against using force against protesters, saying that such action would derail the talks on settling the crisis between the United States, the European Union, Russia and Ukraine set for next week, as well as any other diplomatic efforts. It lashed out at the U.S. warning to slap more sanctions on Russia in case of an escalation of the conflict, saying that "an escalation is only and exclusively possible if Kiev dares to do so, relying on massive support of the U.S. and the EU."

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    Nataliya Vasilyeva contributed to this report from Kiev.

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  • vandeleur
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Sep 2009
    • 9865

    #2
    Been reading on this on the bbc news and I know the rhetoric and its the modern sudetenland is calming down in europe this is still one headcase with a rifle away from going tits up ( a technical term)
    fuck your fucking framing

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    • katina
      Commando
      • Mar 2012
      • 1469

      #3
      Armed, pro-Russian separatists lay siege to Donetsk Oblast; at least two dead



      DONETSK, Ukraine -- Amid reports of casualties on both sides as Ukrainian forces battle pro-Russian militias in Sloviansk, other heavily armed separatists in military uniforms continued to seize or attempt to take over other Ukrainian government buildings or strategic locations in Donetsk Oblast, home to ousted President Viktor Yanukovych and 10 percent of Ukraine's population.

      At least two men were killed in clashes between Ukrainian authorities and pro-Russian separatists with several reportedly injured, although details were scant.

      Here's what we know about each city on April 13:

      Donetsk

      Pro-Russian separatists control the oblast government center and the oblast Interior Ministry. There was little visible presence of Ukrainian police or military in Donetsk and repeated attempts to reach people working for Donetsk Oblast governor Serhiy Taruta today were unsuccessful.

      Mariupol

      In Mariupol, Donetsk Oblast's second largest city, Novosti Donbassa reported that several hundred separatists seized the local city administration building, citing eyewitnesses. The seizure occurred during a rally of demonstrators who favor secession from Ukraine and formation of the independent People's Republic of Donetsk.

      According to http://www.0629.com.ua, Mariupol city news website, and Novost.dn.ua, a regional news website, around 1,000 local separatists have seized the city council building in Mariupol. Here are their combined reports:

      As separatists stormed the building, Ukrainian flags were taken down and the Russian flag and the flag of so-called Donetsk Republic were put up instead. A police cordon had to step back afar getting pushed backed by the crowd. Unidentified people in masks stormed the building, broke the windows and got inside.

      A huge barricade is being built in front of the building. Protesters use everything they can find to build the barricade – men take concrete slabs from the sidewalk, others bring furniture from the administration building.

      Police forces did not do anything. As the barricade was being finished, women protected the entrance. Meanwhile, new people’s deputies were being selected from the crowd. A huge poster over the building’s central entrance reads “People’s Republic of Donetsk.” Rally participants want help from Russia.

      Later in the afternoon, unidentified people approached the building and said "fascism won't make it through" and broke out windows. While protesters moved away from city administration building in Mariupol, only some 100 stayed.

      Sloviansk

      Armed pro-Russian separatists still held the police headquarters and local Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) headquarters in Sloviansk. They also controlled the city's entrances through roadside checkpoints on roads leading from major cities. Separatists burn trees and tires on the roads to make the smoke curtain designed to make the city more difficult to attack.

      Separatists inside were talking with journalists, and one claimed to the Kyiv Post that numerous casualties took place in a battle between Ukrainian police and pro-Russian separatists outside the city, possibly at one of the roadside checkpoints. But that information could not be confirmed.

      Interior Ministry Arsen Avakov said that one Ukrainian state security officer was killed and five others were wounded on the side of government forces in an "anti-terrorist" operation in Sloviansk, but the separatists told the Kyiv Post that the confrontation did not take place in the city or at the police station.

      Ukrainian military helicopters were flying over the area. The separatists are protected by some 1,000 pro-Russian demonstrators and roadside checkpoints.

      Yenakievo

      Pro-Russian separatists were holding rallies, but thus far only the local city administration building has been seized, according to the Kyiv Post journalist on the scene. The mayor of Yenakievo came to the city council building and wavered on which side that he is on when questioned by the Kyiv Post. The Donetsk Republic separatist flag is flying over the administration headquarters.

      Kramatorsk

      After a shootout, pro-Russian armed separatists seized the police station and reportedly also have control for the local city administration building and the local airport.

      To some, video in Kramatorsk proves involvement of Russian military

      People are closely studying the video of the pro-Russian raid on the Kramatorsk police station, looking for clues of Russian military or special forces involvement -- and finding it.

      Adrian Karatnycky, a Ukrainian analyst who writes frequent commentaries on events in Ukraine, reached these conclusions after watching the video: "First, organized (Russian) spetsnaz teams enter-- guns blazing. They are followed by organized bands of less well armed 'titushky' and these are followed by local protesters -- mainly poor, some ideological-- (many of whom are reportedly encouraged with payments of $50 for participation in protests. Phase one and two of such a takeover is chillingly recorded in this video. This is a planned, military and paramilitary operation. In the video, it is clear that they were transported into Kramatorsk from outside."

      Here's some of the dialogue that creates suspicion of Russian involvement:

      Police and other men ask the unformed soldiers: "Where are you from guys?"

      The answer came: "The headquarters is taken over by Afghan veterans! By the Afghan Veterans of Kramatorsk city. Guys, we are for the Donetsk Republic! We want it, just as u do guys, we are Afghan veterans. We control the situation here. Come on!" Then shooting in the air begins as the group advances, enters and armed militants guard the entrance.

      Militants shout "step back!" and someone replies, "Hey we are with you, we've come with Slava (a with very Russian pronunciation).

      The militants reply: "Fine but step back now!! Stay behind the curb." The world "curb" is very Russian, observers have noted, not used often in Ukraine.

      Zaporyzhia

      According to Hromadske TV's live stream camera operator Taras Bilka: Ukrainian authorities are trying to set up checkpoints to stop the travel of pro-Russian separatist groups in Dnipropetrovsk and Zaporizhia oblasts. Thousands of pro-Ukrainians gathered on Zaporizhia's central square to support Ukraine. A rival rally of pro-Russian activists was also being held there. Ukrainian supporters surrounded the smaller group of pro-Russian protesters. The two sides were being separated by police. Buses were expected to take the pro-Russian protesters away. More people from the pro-Ukrainian side came and shouted "shame on you" and "glory to Ukraine."

      Editor’s Note: This article has been produced with support from the project www.mymedia.org.ua, financially supported by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Denmark, and implemented by a joint venture between NIRAS and BBC Media Action.The content in this article may not necessarily reflect the views of the Danish government, NIRAS and BBC Action Media.

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      • Nickdfresh
        SUPER MODERATOR

        • Oct 2004
        • 49136

        #4
        It's heating up. Things were calming down, so Vlad Putin decided to send in the commandos to murder people...

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        • vandeleur
          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
          • Sep 2009
          • 9865

          #5
          Its cool, there is a meeting on Thursday at the UN security council about the problem .... 11th meeting is the charm.
          fuck your fucking framing

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          • kwame k
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Feb 2008
            • 11302

            #6
            Phew.....good to know cause the UN knows how to handle matters like these
            Originally posted by vandeleur
            E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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            • vandeleur
              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
              • Sep 2009
              • 9865

              #7
              Have a meeting seemingly
              fuck your fucking framing

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              • kwame k
                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                • Feb 2008
                • 11302

                #8
                A meeting to talk about having a meeting, more likely!
                Originally posted by vandeleur
                E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                • Nitro Express
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 32797

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                  It's heating up. Things were calming down, so Vlad Putin decided to send in the commandos to murder people...
                  Putin is more interested in destroying the petro dollar so NATO loses it's financing. Without the petro dollar there won't be any financing to keep 1,000 US military bases open and US meddling in the world ends. Nobody in the defense industry wants to get paid in funny money.
                  No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32797

                    #10
                    Originally posted by vandeleur
                    Been reading on this on the bbc news and I know the rhetoric and its the modern sudetenland is calming down in europe this is still one headcase with a rifle away from going tits up ( a technical term)
                    Everyone is involved but the Ukrainians. There's Israeli meddling. US meddling. EU meddling. Russian meddling. I'm not cheering the west on because the west is corrupt. All the Ukrainians will get is austerity and robbed blind. Look at what NATO did to Yugoslavia. Spreading democracy is the biggest fucking lie. It's about getting nations into funny money debt and taking the real assets. Since the money is created from nothing they get the agricultural land and whatever else is of value for free. Quite the scam. Of course the US taxpayer will get the bill for the military operations.

                    Ah when the smoke clears Russia will get the eastern Ukraine.
                    Last edited by Nitro Express; 04-14-2014, 01:08 AM.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • jacksmar
                      Full Member Status

                      • Feb 2004
                      • 3533

                      #11
                      Who cares?
                      This isn't 1954.

                      A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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                      • Kristy
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 16338

                        #12
                        You're so right. It's permanently 1985 around here.

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                        • DrMaddVibe
                          ROTH ARMY ELITE
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 6659

                          #13
                          There are No Neo-Nazis in Ukraine. And the Obama Administration does not support Fascists

                          "We are putting our hopes in a new generation of politicians"

                          By Prof Michel Chossudovsky


                          Svoboda is a Neo-Nazi Party, Ukraine’s fourth biggest party holding 36 seats out of 450 in parliament.

                          They’re also part of the Alliance of European National Movements along with the BNP and Jobbik.

                          Svoboda is supported directly by Washington.

                          This is Svoboda and the “Right Sector”: the Neo-Nazi group which led the “protest movement” in Ukraine. These Neo-Nazis are armed gunmen.

                          The BBC headlines read: “We are putting our hopes in a new generation of politicians” amidst reports that an arrest warrant has been issued for the democratically elected president.

                          Speaker of the Parliament Oleksandr Turchynov who issued the arrest warrant directed against President Viktor Yanukovych stated “We must move towards a national government by Tuesday”. That government, were it to be formed, would be integrated by Svoboda.

                          Update:

                          That coalition government has now been formed with Neo-Nazis of the Svoboda and Right Sector parties in control of the Armed Forces, National security, Justice and Education.

                          While Obama is accusing Russia of interventionism, the US and the EU are supportive of both the terrorist Neo-Nazi militia as well as the Svoboda party. Meanwhile, the media is mum: discussion of EU-US support to Neo-Nazi political formation is a taboo.

                          The existence of a Neo-Nazi party working in tandem with Brown shirts militia is casually denied. Those who dare raise the issue are accused of propagandizing

                          Who is Lying? Who is Telling the Truth?

                          Scroll down to meet the “new generation of politicians” supported and financed by the Obama administration. Six major portfolios are controlled by the Neo-Nazis.


                          Svoboda’s Oleh Tyahnybok doing their party salute when re-elected their leader.

                          http://finance.yahoo.com/news/kiev-become-war-zone-photos-191541233.html Should the U.S. and the EU start doing massive sanctions against their Government? This shit is getting way out of hand.





                          John McCain with leader of the Neo-Nazi Svoboda Party (right)

                          John McCain Oleh Tyahnybok

                          Ukraine protests - links to the far right? (Reuters)

                          John McCain with leader of the Neo-Nazi Svoboda Party Oleh Tyahnybok. McCain on a “Business Trip” to Kiev (Source Business Insider)



                          US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland together Neo Nazi Svoboda leader Oleh Tyahnybok (left)



                          Neo-Nazis and far-right protesters in Ukraine

                          “The far-right in Ukraine are acting as the vanguard of a protest movement that is being reported as pro-democracy.



                          The situation on the ground is not as simple as pro-EU and trade versus pro-Putin and Russian hegemony in the region.”

                          Neo-Nazi thugs at the forefront of Ukrainian protests



                          Russia Today. Ukrainian Neo-Nazi skinheads



                          Reunion of SS and UPA Nazi collaborators and their supporters in 2006 in the Ukraine. Civilisation Ukrainian-Style: Vandalising the Memorials to the Soldiers of the Anti-Hitler Coalition





                          “Here protesters clash with riot police, one carries a homemade shield painted with a white power symbol and the numbers 14 and 88.

                          These numbers are common neo-Nazi slogans;with 14 standing for David Lane’s slogan (We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children) and 88 as code for HH, or Heil Hitler.”

                          ukraine flag burning

                          Patriots burn flags, while white power flags are flown throughout the crowd



                          Ukrainian Skinheads, The Times, 2006 Rally



                          Neonazis in Kyiv are ready for the battle.


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                          Neo-Nazi thugs at the forefront of Ukrainian protests


                          Activists in the western Ukrainian city of Lviv wearing uniforms of the former Ukrainian Insurgent Army (known as UPA, from its Ukrainian language initials) marched in a large scale event in the city center today.











                          The Svoboda leader also refers to the Nazi Stephan Bandera in the interview: “You must, as Stephan Bandera once said, “reach every Ukrainian” (see below to understand the significance of this statement).

                          Svoboda’s Oleh Tyahnybok at a ceremony in 2009, celebrating Stephan Bandera, Nazi ally during the WWII, whose organization massacred Jews and Poles, now rehabilitated in Ukraine as “a patriot” and “national hero”.

                          People holding UPA (horizontal red and black) and Svoboda (3 yellow fingers on blue) flags march through Kyiv to the honor of the Nazi ally, Bandera.



                          Svoboda march together with UPA and other nationalists to the memory of Nazi ally, Stepan Bandera, Kyiv 2011.





                          October 2011, torchlight procession in Kyiv, devoted to birthday of Stepan Bandera, the leader of the Organisation of Ukrainian Nationalists, and also to all OUN-UPA fighters. The march was organised by the ‘Svoboda’ Pan-Ukrainian Association.


                          First published by Global Research on March 1, 2014 *** Svoboda is a Neo-Nazi Party, Ukraine’s fourth biggest party holding 36 seats out of 450 in parliament. They’re also part of the Alliance of European National Movements along with the BNP and Jobbik. Svoboda is supported directly by Washington. This is Svoboda and the “Right …
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                          • ELVIS
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 44120

                            #14
                            WWIII here we come...


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                            • Nickdfresh
                              SUPER MODERATOR

                              • Oct 2004
                              • 49136

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
                              There are No Neo-Nazis in Ukraine. And the Obama Administration does not support Fascists

                              ...]
                              Complete horseshit argument spouted directly by the Russian government that belies any actual facts on the ground. Firstly, "Obama" or the United States doesn't really support the Ukraine in general. We done virtually nothing for them other than to try to pressure the Russians through sanctions, and send a few troops and fighters to neighboring NATO nations like Latvia and Poland.

                              The idea that the Ukrainians are all neo-Nazis is complete bullshit, because NOT ONE SEAT in the Ukrainian government is held by far rightests. If your looking for people acting like Nazis, one might wanna check Hitler's reasons for invading Poland, namely to "save the Volksdeutch" or the German speakers, just Like Vladdy wants to save all the Russian speakers from the nonexistent persecutions. Never mind that it is the Russian separatists of Donetsk that seem to be committing the vast majority or intimidation of the opposition, torture-murders, and abductions, NOT the Ukrainian government...

                              I find it rather humorous how American "libertarian" news sites are now adopting a completely fascist strongman in Vlad Putin as their cause celeb against the "evil" Obama Administration. Really?

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