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  • twonabomber
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    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Jan 2004
    • 11189

    N.W.A., Cheap Trick, Yes, Smiths, Steve Miller among Rock Hall nominees

    Seems like a "make up" year. No worthy bands hit in 1990?

    CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Thrice-nominated N.W.A. -- perhaps riding the success of the dramatized biopic "Straight Outta Compton'' –- headlines an eclectic list of nominees that's heavy on first-timers to be the members of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2016.

    Fan favorites Chicago, Cheap Trick, the Cars, Deep Purple, Steve Miller, Nine Inch Nails, Yes and the Smiths also earned spots on the list of nominees. Rounding out the list announced under a 2 a.m. Thursday embargo by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame are Chaka Khan, Chic, the JB's, Janet Jackson, Los Lobos and the Spinners.

    Eight of the 15 nominees -- Chicago, Cheap Trick, the Cars, Chaka Khan, the JB's, Janet Jackson, Los Lobos and Steve Miller (who is nominated as a solo artist, not as part of the Steve Miller Band) -- are on the ballot for the first time.

    The list also seems to pay heed in some manner to the hue and cry of fans over the exclusion of vintage bands from what many see as the golden age of rock 'n' roll.

    The groundbreaking prog-rock band Yes, for example, has been eligible for enshrinement since 1994, yet has only one nomination on its resume. And now, even if they make the cut, it will be too late for founding member Chris Squire, the Yes bassist and only member of the band to appear on every album, who died of leukemia this year.

    "The passion around this discussion is at the heart of what the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame means to music fans,'' said Joel Peresman, president of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation in a statement issued by the Rock Hall announcing the nominations.

    To be eligible for consideration, an artist or band must have released its first single or album at least 25 years prior to nomination, meaning the potential members of the Class of 2016 must have issued a first recording by 1990.

    About 800 industry professionals -- including current hall of famers as well as historians, certain media members and others in the business -- will vote on who makes the cut.

    Fans again will be permitted to vote on three websites -- rockhall.com, rollingstone.com and huffingtonpost.com -- starting Thursday, Oct. 8. However, those votes really will amount to little, as the top five vote-getters will be considered as a single ballot among the 800 or so that will be cast.

    Last year, more than 60 million people voted in the Rock Hall's official fan balloting. Trent Reznor's Nine Inch Nails received 13 million total votes, meaning each fan vote was worth about 0.0000538 of a vote.

    The new hall members -- usually between six and eight off the ballot, along with one or two members in the non-performer and lifetime achievement award categories -- will be announced in December.

    The induction ceremony will be in New York City in April. This represents a change in the Foundation's previous plans to rotate the ceremony between Cleveland, where the Class of 2015 was inducted, Los Angeles and New York.

    The on-sale date for tickets to the event for the general public will be announced at a later date. As in years past, the ceremony will broadcast on HBO, about a month afterwards.
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  • twonabomber
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    • Jan 2004
    • 11189

    #2
    So pick your six to eight nominees.

    My easy answer would be "anyone but the Smiths." But I guess they are seen as influential, so maybe they get in.

    Chaka Khan, without Rufus? Nah.

    So my guess:

    Cheap Trick
    The Cars (because Ben Orr was from Parma and was a friend of the family)
    The JB's
    NIN
    NWA (not as a fan, but because ratings. since this airs on HBO now, do ratings matter?)
    Yes (because the Rock Hall has a history of inducting people too late)
    Chic (because Nile Rodgers)

    Can't see Janet Jackson getting in, but she does have a new album out and will be touring around the time of the inductions, and they love when inductees have something to promote.

    Los Lobos, Steve Miller, influential?

    And the hardcore crybabies will still bitch about no nomination for Jethro Tull (hi, Mr. Walker!) and the Moody Blues. There's even a turd on a local forum who pushes for Melanie to be inducted.
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    • DLR Bridge
      ROCKSTAR

      • Mar 2011
      • 5470

      #3
      Steve Miller belongs in a place with Rock and Roll in it's name a lot more than NWA. What a silly institution.

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 58754

        #4
        Deep Purple, Yes, and Chicago all in the same year? Is there enough space in the Hall for that?


        If you count every member of every lineup that has used those three band names, it's probably bigger than the average small town.

        Of course as far as who actually deserves the nomination from those camps, that narrows it down considerably.....

        Deep Purple - Go with the Machine Head lineup, and call it good. David Covercheeseball should NEVER be in anything called a "Hall of Fame". Nor should any of the scabs that have toured with Gillan for the last 20 years.

        Yes - Easiest resolution there is, if you participated in the "Union" album & tour, you're in. That covers the classic 70s lineup and the 80s "90125" variation. And for the love of Christ, do NOT perform with the tribute band singer!

        Chicago - Completely worthless after Terry Kath died. Not sure how they even got nominated at this point.

        As for Janet Jackson & Chic? It's not the fucking DISCO hall of fame, goddamn it.

        Cheap Trick should be an easy nomination. Don't have to worry about any extra members who don't belong on stage.

        Nine Inch Nails?? Has that been 25 years already?? Goddamn, now I feel old........
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        • twonabomber
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          • Jan 2004
          • 11189

          #5
          Cheap Trick could have 5, if they count Pete Comita.

          NIN was nominated last year as well, their first year of eligibility.

          Chicago was probably a token nomination to shut a bunch of crybabies up.
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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 58754

            #6
            Yeah, I forgot that Cheap Trick had a spare bass player for a while. Probably because that was during their cheese ballad years and I'm trying to forget the whole portion of that existence.

            I certainly hope they aren't taking the online poll at their website seriously, because that thing was being heavily diebolded to Janet Jackson last night, and there's not one fucking reason in the world why she should even be considered. Hell, she didn't even have actual musicians play one solo on a song, like her brother did.
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            Justice Democrats


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            • Never was
              Foot Soldier
              • May 2012
              • 626

              #7
              Problem is it is the ROCK n roll HOF and for the most hard is ignored. It is really a pop music HOF and call it what it is. NWA has nothing to do with rock but most definitely deserve to be in the music HOF because of their influence on an entire genre. This HOF overall is such a joke

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              • DLR Bridge
                ROCKSTAR

                • Mar 2011
                • 5470

                #8
                Originally posted by twonabomber
                Cheap Trick could have 5, if they count Pete Comita.
                Well, considering he only played on a couple of songs, they'd have to include Jon Brant who played on 4 albums.

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                • twonabomber
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                  • Jan 2004
                  • 11189

                  #9
                  Originally posted by FORD
                  Yeah, I forgot that Cheap Trick had a spare bass player for a while. Probably because that was during their cheese ballad years and I'm trying to forget the whole portion of that existence.

                  I certainly hope they aren't taking the online poll at their website seriously, because that thing was being heavily diebolded to Janet Jackson last night, and there's not one fucking reason in the world why she should even be considered. Hell, she didn't even have actual musicians play one solo on a song, like her brother did.
                  Nuno played on Black Cat...but yeah, that ain't enough.

                  I've heard her new album. Produced by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. It's okay, not Rhythm Nation or janet. okay though.

                  Originally posted by DLR Bridge
                  Well, considering he only played on a couple of songs, they'd have to include Jon Brant who played on 4 albums.
                  I forgot about that guy.

                  I don't think Nielsen will insist that his kid gets included.
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                  • twonabomber
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                    • Jan 2004
                    • 11189

                    #10
                    Inductee announcement Thursday...
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                    • twonabomber
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                      • Jan 2004
                      • 11189

                      #11
                      And your induction class of 2016:

                      Chicago
                      Deep Purple
                      Steve Miller
                      Cheap Trick
                      N.W.A.

                      Cheap Trick inductees will be drummer Bun E. Carlos, guitarist Rick Nielsen, bassist Tom Petersson and vocalist Robin Zander.

                      Chicago: Terry Kath will be inducted posthumously, along with Peter Cetera, Robert Lamm, Lee Loughnane, James Pankow, Walter Parazaider and Danny Seraphine.

                      Joining Ritchie Blackmore on the Barclays Center stage (maybe; the band and Blackmore, who quit in 1993, have been feuding over royalty payments) will be former vocalists David Coverdale and Rod Evans, current vocalist Ian Gillan, bassist Roger Glover, former bassist and vocalist Glenn Hughes, and drummer Ian Paice. Keyboardist Jon Lord, who died in 2012, will be inducted posthumously.

                      Destined to be the most controversial inductee in the Class of 2016, N.W.A. featured DJ Yella, Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, MC Ren and the late Eazy-E.

                      The five new inductees were chosen from a list of nominees that included Janet Jackson, Yes, the Cars, the Spinners, Nine Inch Nails, the Smiths, Chaka Khan, Chic, Los Lobos and the J.B's.

                      full article http://www.cleveland.com/entertainme..._story_package
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                      • twonabomber
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                        • Jan 2004
                        • 11189

                        #12
                        Fucking Coverdale gets inducted...put him next to Hagar!
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                        • twonabomber
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                          • Jan 2004
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                          #13
                          Maybe during the jam at the end of the show NWA and Cheap Trick can play Fuck The Dream Police!
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                          • Jesus Christ
                            Veteran
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 2428

                            #14
                            Good call on limiting Chicago's induction to only the original lineup. Bad call including Covercheesball and Hughes with Deep Purple. Not going to say it's bad to include Rod Evans ("Hush" is still one of their biggest songs, after all) but I'm shocked to see it after that bearing false witness faux-Purple tour he did in 1980.

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                            • DONNIEP
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 13373

                              #15
                              How in the fuck can NWA get in and Chaka Khan didn't???? NWA was just one more filthy mouthed rap group in a sea of filthy mouthed rap groups! No talent and stupid fucking "songs" that sound like the lyrics were written by 13 year olds. You wanna listen to some bad ass black dude rap? Pop in some Ice T. Wanna listen to bad ass dirty rap? Pop in some Afroman!

                              Besides - young Chaka wearing those tight bell bottoms and Indian feathers is enough to make my zipper bust open! Damn that chick was hot! Good lord, you give me the young Chaka and I'd take her this Sunday and sit on the front row of my conservative Southern Baptist Church and kiss her on the cheek in front of every Honkie there!

                              NWA...that shit ain't even worth listening to! And how the hell are the Go Go's not in the Hall??? The first chick band to write their own songs and play their own instruments AND they were drunk dirty little whores. It doesn't get any more rock n roll than that!!
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