Roger Stone - Evil Incarnate

[Seshmeister]

This guy needs his own thread, you need to watch him. I just finished the latest Jon Ronson book where he describes him and his key role with Trump.

He is Trump's chief advisor and has been for some time. He does the 'black ops' stuff, the dirty fighting. He supposedly left the Trump campaign a year ago to give him free reign and deniability. In Ronson's book he runs into him still at the centre of it during the summer.

He used to work for Nixon(he has a tattoo of him on his back) and then started a PR firm working for murderous dictators. He's the source of a lot of the more out there conspiracy theory shit that Trump sometimes comes out with and is the link between him and Alex Jones at infowars.

Stone claims to have organized the so-called “Brooks Brothers riot,” which helped George W. Bush win the decisive Florida recount, he's behind the 'rigged election' stuff, the Cruz dad JFK story, that Bush Family “Tried To Kill” President Reagan and probably was the one that started the whole Obama birth certificate thing with Trump.

He pledged to disclose the hotels and hotel room numbers of anti-Trump delegates at the Republican National Convention online to get them beat up.

He's a holocaust,Sandy Crook and 9-11 denier.

Quote - Glenn Beck: “Roger Stone Is One Of The Worst People In The World.”

[Seshmeister]

Roger Stone, a longtime adviser to Donald Trump, says the president-elect interviewed Mitt Romney for the secretary of State position just to "torture him" for his former criticism.

In an appearance on InfoWars Sunday, Stone said Trump had been toying with Romney.

[FORD]

Since Roger Stone worked for the BCE, anything he claims they did might actually be accurate. He is one of the worst assholes ever produced by that rancid pack of fascists, obviously. His disciples like Lee Atwater & Karl Rove have either died or faded from prominence and yet Roger himself seems too evil to drop off the planet.

Maybe that's because not even Hell wants him?

[Seshmeister]

I wouldn't believe a single thing he says but that doesn't mean that what he says is unimportant.

Quite the reverse since Trump repeats what Stone tells him.

[Seshmeister]

Well 3 years on and he just got convicted on multiple counts.

Good effort US justice system I was starting to worry about you...

[Nickdfresh]

Stone is a cunt that needs to digest in the bowls of the US prison system - hopefully he's just the start...

[Terry]

This guy needs his own thread, you need to watch him. I just finished the latest Jon Ronson book where he describes him and his key role with Trump.

He is Trump's chief advisor and has been for some time. He does the 'black ops' stuff, the dirty fighting. He supposedly left the Trump campaign a year ago to give him free reign and deniability. In Ronson's book he runs into him still at the centre of it during the summer.

He used to work for Nixon(he has a tattoo of him on his back) and then started a PR firm working for murderous dictators. He's the source of a lot of the more out there conspiracy theory shit that Trump sometimes comes out with and is the link between him and Alex Jones at infowars.

Stone claims to have organized the so-called “Brooks Brothers riot,” which helped George W. Bush win the decisive Florida recount, he's behind the 'rigged election' stuff, the Cruz dad JFK story, that Bush Family “Tried To Kill” President Reagan and probably was the one that started the whole Obama birth certificate thing with Trump.

He pledged to disclose the hotels and hotel room numbers of anti-Trump delegates at the Republican National Convention online to get them beat up.

He's a holocaust,Sandy Crook and 9-11 denier.

Quote - Glenn Beck: “Roger Stone Is One Of The Worst People In The World.”

Stone is a long-time creep going way, way back, to be sure.

Still a marginal trickster at best, and not nearly as historically relevant as he thinks, professes and wishes he were.

Even with the claims he made, the "Brooks Brothers riot" was one of a thousand fucked up things that went screwy during the Florida recount. The Cruz Dad JFK story was one of a thousand banana peels Establishment GOP candidates slipped on trying to grapple with Trump and the Birther faction was never large enough to have been decisive: the Birthers weren't going to vote for Obama anyway, even if Birtherism hadn't taken hold. None of these activities were even close to being weighty enough on their own to be pendulum-swinging. Much the same applies to Stone's "putting socks on" Spitzer, or the WikiLeaks biz in the 2016 election.

The type of people Stone's pranks actually have sway with are the same types of people who think Elvis is still alive, living with Bigfoot and Michael Jackson in Area 51: these sort of cranks will believe whatever they're told from whatever source, thus if it weren't Stone and Alex Jones it'd be supermarket tabloids and Rush Limbaugh. Most likely a combination of all of them.

[Nitro Express]

We will see how loyal Trump is to his buddies. Roger Stone and Trump go back almost 40 years. Stone was working for the Reagan campaign and Trump donated office space for Reagan’s campaign headquarters. They have been friends since then. So we will see if Trump pardons Stone. Anyways Stone was an eccentric character and most politicos are slimey characters. Maybe all of Washington DC needs to be thrown in jail.

[Terry]

Has Trump ever displayed an appreciable (or any other) amount of loyalty to anyone - other than himself - once these people are outside the pull of Trump's orbit and are no longer of any use to him?

I say that not out of spite or smarm, but simply as a matter of factual inquiry.

For Trump pardoning Stone (or Manafort, or Flynn, or any of the rest) at the very least implies a degree of admitting that Trump approved Stone's wrongdoing, regardless of Trump proclaiming that Stone was "wrongfully convicted because of the partisan witch hunt that wanted to lynch me" or some such rationale. It involves appearances, and alongside Trump's lack of loyalty to anyone other than himself the one thing Donald Trump cannot ever publicly admit is that he was wrong to the slightest degree about anything, ever re: how that would reflect on Trump's public appearance.

I'd say maybe, should Trump not decide to run next year (which seems highly unlikely), he'll issue a bunch of pardons (Stone, Manafort, Flynn, etc.) in his last week of holding the presidency...and may well pardon himself for any and all crimes committed prior to and including the entirety of his presidency up until the moment of his departure from office.

[Nickdfresh]

We will see how loyal Trump is to his buddies...

Yeah, maybe when they're cellmates Trump can make a nice shiv for him?

[FORD]

[Nitro Express]

Stone is a cunt that needs to digest in the bowls of the US prison system - hopefully he's just the start...

Yeah. Let’s throw Hillary and Comey in with him.

[cadaverdog]

Yeah. Let’s throw Hillary and Comey in with him.

Drain the toilet. Flush 'em all!

[Nickdfresh]

Yeah. Let’s throw Hillary and Comey in with him.

They haven't been convicted of anything. Are you really this much of a week-minded shill?

[cadaverdog]

They haven't been convicted of anything. Are you really this much of a week-minded shill?

Neither has Trump.