As Calls Grow to Impeach Trump, John Dean Sees "Echoes of Watergate"

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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58754

    As Calls Grow to Impeach Trump, John Dean Sees "Echoes of Watergate"

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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58754

    #2
    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

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    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • Kristy
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 16336

      #3
      That was more boring and predictable then watching a petting zoo monkey throw its feces at slave SESH Amy Goodman is an asshole, slave FORD However much you want Grumpy Trumpy out of office going to the Jew media like Goodwin won't help. John Dean (who is also Jewish) has a book to sell hopefully to make the quota for his millions advance money. Shame on you slave FORD You are brainwashed beyond all hope.

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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32794

        #4
        Ha! Ha! In La La Land you hire Russian plumbers.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • jacksmar
          Full Member Status

          • Feb 2004
          • 3533

          #5
          just a thought, how many democratics would it take to start impeachments proceedings in the house?

          .....
          A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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          • Kristy
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 16336

            #6
            qikgts = NSA operative/spy

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 58754

              #7
              Jerksmear = Kelleytweaker Conjob's meth dealer.
              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • jacksmar
                Full Member Status

                • Feb 2004
                • 3533

                #8
                TARD, your poor little vagina that you voted with, is in for another surprise just like the little freshmen girl invited to the senior prom that got laid on the way to the gym in the back of a panel van that can't find her date at the end of the night and ends up crying about her lost wrist corsage.

                what are you going to do when pocohantas warren loses her seat in 2018?

                oh and btw, Kellyanne Conway graduated magna cum laude and has a JD from GW law school and knows that the answer is 2/3 of the house.

                go back to your safe space and color with the fags, abortionists, and hollywood hippies and prxx, er, hope for 1968.
                A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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                • qikgts
                  Head Fluffer
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 498

                  #9
                  Kristy = prevaricating imbecilic strumpet / habitué
                  You're gonna hear the angels sing...

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                  • Terry
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 11953

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jacksmar
                    just a thought, how many democratics would it take to start impeachments proceedings in the house?

                    .....
                    It only takes one congressional representative to introduce legislation or propose an inquiry to looking into impeachment proceedings. After that, it would take a majority of the House to then vote "aye" for the proceedings/inquiry to begin.

                    Highly, highly doubtful that will happen as things stand right now. Short of Sessions or Congress appointing a special prosecutor...and Sessions ain't appointing one on the basis of what is out there now in terms of improprieties. It's not to say that won't happen down the line, but even with all the intelligence leaks about Russian/Trump campaign relationships that have already been publicly printed, there's no Smoking Gun...yet.

                    And the House Of Reps as it stands right now? There won't be anything close to a majority who would vote to have impeachment proceedings begin. It would take a majority of Republican House Members signing on to get that ball rolling, and most of them are still taking the lay of the land and seeing how much they can get done with the Trump Administration in terms of like-minded legislation.

                    If 2018 turns out to be a disaster for the GOP (and I wouldn't even put even money on that right now considering the races/states in play two years from now) and Trump has already shot his wad politically...MAYBE something would get rolling only IF there's enough evidence in the bag at the outset to virtually guarantee Trump's ouster in the end: they will only do it if they are loaded for bear and have the kill shot lined up, because if you don't have enough firepower and you miss...
                    Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                    • jacksmar
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                      • Feb 2004
                      • 3533

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Terry
                      It only takes one congressional representative to introduce legislation or propose an inquiry to looking into impeachment proceedings. After that, it would take a majority of the House to then vote "aye" for the proceedings/inquiry to begin.

                      Highly, highly doubtful that will happen as things stand right now. Short of Sessions or Congress appointing a special prosecutor...and Sessions ain't appointing one on the basis of what is out there now in terms of improprieties. It's not to say that won't happen down the line, but even with all the intelligence leaks about Russian/Trump campaign relationships that have already been publicly printed, there's no Smoking Gun...yet.

                      And the House Of Reps as it stands right now? There won't be anything close to a majority who would vote to have impeachment proceedings begin. It would take a majority of Republican House Members signing on to get that ball rolling, and most of them are still taking the lay of the land and seeing how much they can get done with the Trump Administration in terms of like-minded legislation.

                      If 2018 turns out to be a disaster for the GOP (and I wouldn't even put even money on that right now considering the races/states in play two years from now) and Trump has already shot his wad politically...MAYBE something would get rolling only IF there's enough evidence in the bag at the outset to virtually guarantee Trump's ouster in the end: they will only do it if they are loaded for bear and have the kill shot lined up, because if you don't have enough firepower and you miss...
                      Terry, those are great points. The Dems are shooting sour grapes and before Obama had done anything he had won the peace prize.

                      Trump is an old school democrat and will find a way to make deals that they like and he likes. But impeachment talk is echo chamber speak. The Dems are beyond chaotic. What do they have like 6 governors?

                      The RINO's will be Trump's problem, gang of 8 crap and mavericks. The Dems will throw everything at him and if Trump can survive this first year, the Dems and the RINO lackeys will be obsolete and irrelevant afterward.

                      Tell you what, if Trump gives amnesty to illegal aliens, then we'll address this again.

                      Just the way I see it.
                      A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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                      • Terry
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 11953

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jacksmar
                        Terry, those are great points. The Dems are shooting sour grapes and before Obama had done anything he had won the peace prize.

                        Trump is an old school democrat and will find a way to make deals that they like and he likes. But impeachment talk is echo chamber speak. The Dems are beyond chaotic. What do they have like 6 governors?

                        The RINO's will be Trump's problem, gang of 8 crap and mavericks. The Dems will throw everything at him and if Trump can survive this first year, the Dems and the RINO lackeys will be obsolete and irrelevant afterward.

                        Tell you what, if Trump gives amnesty to illegal aliens, then we'll address this again.

                        Just the way I see it.
                        I'd agree that solidified Democratic Congressional opposition alone probably won't be enough to get the job done: they couldn't even effectively block the likes of Davos, Carson, Perry or Sessions. I'd also agree that even outside the beltway on the state level, outside of the west coast, patches of the north and the block of the northeast, Democratic control of state and local legislatures has eroded over the last decade to where they will be hard-pressed to roll back federal initiatives by the Trump Administration.

                        I'd also agree that RINO's who aren't particularly beholden to Trump will be the weak spot for Trump. If enough of those start to abandon him and throw their lot in with the Democratic Congressional opposition, Trump could be in real trouble. Ryan and McConnell are pretty wobbly in terms of loyalty to Trump. They have been willing to hitch up to his wagon to possibly realize their legislative goals (inasmuch as either of them actually HAVE any - the anti-Obama rhetoric served them well when all they had to do was play defense via obstruction, but austerity in terms of financial disbursement and legislation will only get you so far because at some point your constituents are going to actually want you to DO SOMETHING for them), but they won't hesitate to distance themselves from Trump in a heart beat if he goes into a death spiral...no matter how much both of them might like Mike Pence, they aren't going to sacrifice themselves for Trump. They're not Trump Believers.

                        Far as the Democrats becoming obsolete and irrelevant, far too early to say for certain this will be the way that plays out. Trump could well go down and take a whole bunch of Republicans with him. We just don't know yet how any of this is going to play out.

                        I'd also agree Trump could do Big Idea Liberal Moon Shots via Executive Order (such as your amnesty example) to counter the political fallout of these Russian revelations. How Trump's base of voters would react to such a thing would be...interesting to say the least.

                        I didn't vote for Trump, and my opinion of him is very low. Even so, this shouldn't mean I have to be clouded by emotion and not look carefully at where things are politically and make calm, measured decisions (or have a simple dialogue - as opposed to a screaming match - with someone who has different political views or supported a different candidate than I did) based on facts and not feelings. I think the Democratic Party on the whole will be better served tempering the emotion and focusing it on legislative, legal and elective measures to achieve their political goals. Continually frothing at the mouth is an energy-depleting activity after awhile. You can't sustain full-on outrage forever: eventually you will burn yourself out.
                        Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32794

                          #13
                          I think you are seeing two pathetic corrupt political parties on their way out and a dysfunctional and corrupt federal government in the early stages of devolution. Half the country hates the other half and all this is bigger than the politicians in Washington. It's going to eventually devolve to the state level and some states might want to pair up and leave the union. The west coast and New England very well could go their own way. The whole Russian collaborator story is BS. Generals and Senators communicate with the Russians. Nothing new. It's the Democrats and media making mountains out of nothing.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Terry
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 11953

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Nitro Express
                            I think you are seeing two pathetic corrupt political parties on their way out and a dysfunctional and corrupt federal government in the early stages of devolution. Half the country hates the other half and all this is bigger than the politicians in Washington. It's going to eventually devolve to the state level and some states might want to pair up and leave the union. The west coast and New England very well could go their own way. The whole Russian collaborator story is BS. Generals and Senators communicate with the Russians. Nothing new. It's the Democrats and media making mountains out of nothing.
                            I wouldn't say it's nothing, since we don't even know the full extent of the contacts yet, much less the full extent of what was said...or if the contacts were initiated at the specific request of Trump.
                            Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                            • Seshmeister
                              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                              • Oct 2003
                              • 35158

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Nitro Express
                              The whole Russian collaborator story is BS. Generals and Senators communicate with the Russians. Nothing new. It's the Democrats and media making mountains out of nothing.
                              That's definitely very possible but if that is the case why do they keep lying about it?

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