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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58755

    Rexxon Drillerson skips NATO meeting to go to FUCKING RUSSIA!

    Exclusive: Tillerson plans to skip NATO meeting, visit Russia in April - sources
    By Arshad Mohammed and John Walcott
    Reuters
    Tue Mar 21, 2017 | 12:44am EDT



    WASHINGTON U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson plans to skip a meeting with NATO foreign ministers next month in order to stay home for a visit by China's president and will go to Russia later in April, U.S. officials said on Monday, disclosing an itinerary that allies may see as giving Moscow priority over them.

    Tillerson intends to miss what would have been his first meeting of the 28 NATO allies on April 5-6 in Brussels so that he can attend President Donald Trump's expected April 6-7 talks with Chinese President Xi Jinping at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, four current and former U.S. officials said.

    Skipping the NATO meeting and visiting Moscow could risk feeding a perception that Trump may be putting U.S. dealings with big powers first, while leaving waiting those smaller nations that depend on Washington for security, two former U.S. officials said.

    Trump has often praised Russian President Vladimir Putin, and Tillerson worked with Russia's government for years as a top executive at Exxon Mobil Corp, and has questioned the wisdom of sanctions against Russia that he said could harm U.S. businesses.

    A State Department spokeswoman said Tillerson would meet on Wednesday with foreign ministers from 26 of the 27 other NATO countries -- all but Croatia -- at a gathering of the coalition working to defeat the Islamic State militant group.

    NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg was due to have arrived in Washington on Monday for a three-day visit that was to include talks with U.S. Defense Secretary James Mattis and to take part in the counter-Islamic State meetings.

    The State Department spokeswoman said Tillerson would not have a separate, NATO-focused meeting the 26 foreign ministers in Washington but rather that they would meet in the counter-Islamic State talks.

    "After these consultations and meetings, in April he will travel to a meeting of the G7 (Group of Seven) in Italy and then on to meetings in Russia," she added, saying U.S. Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Tom Shannon would represent the United States at the NATO foreign ministers meeting.

    'GRAVE ERROR'

    Representative Eliot Engel, the senior Democrat on the U.S. House of Representatives foreign affairs committee, said that Tillerson was making a mistake by skipping the Brussels talks.

    "Donald Trump's Administration is making a grave error that will shake the confidence of America's most important alliance and feed the concern that this Administration simply too cozy with (Russian President) Vladimir Putin," Engel said in a written statement.

    "I cannot fathom why the Administration would pursue this course except to signal a change in American foreign policy that draws our country away from western democracy's most important institutions and aligns the United States more closely with the autocratic regime in the Kremlin," he added.

    A former U.S. official echoed the view.

    "It feeds this narrative that somehow the Trump administration is playing footsie with Russia," said the former U.S. official on condition of anonymity.

    "You don’t want to do your early business with the world's great autocrats. You want to start with the great democracies, and NATO is the security instrument of the transatlantic group of great democracies," he added.

    Any Russian visit by a senior Trump administration official may be carefully scrutinized after the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on Monday publicly confirmed his agency was investigating any collusion between the Russian government and Trump's 2016 presidential election campaign.

    Trump has already worried NATO allies by referring to the Western security alliance as "obsolete" and by pressing other members to meet their commitments to spend at least 2 percent of gross domestic product on defense.

    Last week, he dismayed British officials by shrugging off a media report, forcefully denied by Britain, that the administration of former President Barack Obama tapped his phones during the 2016 White House race with the aid of Britain's GCHQ spy agency.

    A former U.S. official and a former NATO diplomat, both speaking on condition of anonymity, said the alliance offered to change the meeting dates so Tillerson could attend it and the Xi Jinping talks but the State Department had rebuffed the idea.

    The former diplomat said it was vital to present a united front toward Moscow. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization was created in 1949 to serve as a bulwark against the Soviet Union.

    "Given the challenge that Russia poses, not just to the United States but to Europe, it's critical to engage on the basis of a united front if at all possible," the diplomat said.

    (Additional Reporting by Jonathan Landay; Writing by Arshad Mohammed; Editing by Lisa Shumaker & Simon Cameron-Moore)
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  • Nitro Express
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    • Aug 2004
    • 32798

    #2
    You get the protection you pay for and NATO members owe us money. Maybe if they don't pay up we will have to take over their countrries as payment.
    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49125

      #3
      Originally posted by Nitro Express
      You get the protection you pay for and NATO members owe us money. Maybe if they don't pay up we will have to take over their countrries as payment.
      Parrot anymore horseshit Russia's-Old-Whore talking points, Drumpfbot?

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      • Nitro Express
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        • Aug 2004
        • 32798

        #4
        Ha! ha! Anyone who believes this Russian agent crap being sold is an idiot. Rand Paul now is supposedly a Russian agent. Anyone who doesn't want wars to have wars or risk getting into a war with Russia suddenly becomes a buddy of Vladimir Putin. Roger Stone a Russian agent? Ha! ha! Yeah an old Goldwater Republican who hates communism and totalitarianism is going to be working with Putin. Let's talk about Uranium deals with Putin. There's actual evidence on that one. The Putin narrative is nothing more than a straw man created to smear anyone trying to change things the old Washington establishment doesn't want changed. Sessions a Putin agent. Only to people who are scared of possibly going to jail.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 58755

          #5
          Roger Stone is a vile piece of shit. As he has been since the Nixon days. He's the sewer from which the rivers of shit named Lee Atwater, Karl Rove, and Steve Bannon all originated from.

          As for Jefferson Davis Beauregard Sessions III, he's just a white supremacist wackjob. So is Putin. Sessions doesn't get caught up in the specifics like old Adolf did (i.e. the "Aryan" Germans being "superior" to the Russians and other Slavic Eastern Europeans) so as long as Pooty prefers the white race and hates the queers, he's OK with Jeffy.
          Eat Us And Smile

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          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • Nickdfresh
            SUPER MODERATOR

            • Oct 2004
            • 49125

            #6
            Originally posted by Nitro Express
            Ha! ha! Anyone who believes this Russian agent crap being sold is an idiot. Rand Paul now is supposedly a Russian agent. Anyone who doesn't want wars to have wars or risk getting into a war with Russia suddenly becomes a buddy of Vladimir Putin. Roger Stone a Russian agent? Ha! ha! Yeah an old Goldwater Republican who hates communism and totalitarianism is going to be working with Putin. Let's talk about Uranium deals with Putin. There's actual evidence on that one. The Putin narrative is nothing more than a straw man created to smear anyone trying to change things the old Washington establishment doesn't want changed. Sessions a Putin agent. Only to people who are scared of possibly going to jail.
            I dunno who you're talking to, maybe yourself because it gets lonely there in Jackson's Hole or something...

            I meant the idiotic tweet the Dumpster sent out that is completely baseless and moronic...

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            • Nitro Express
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 32798

              #7
              Originally posted by FORD
              Roger Stone is a vile piece of shit. As he has been since the Nixon days. He's the sewer from which the rivers of shit named Lee Atwater, Karl Rove, and Steve Bannon all originated from.

              As for Jefferson Davis Beauregard Sessions III, he's just a white supremacist wackjob. So is Putin. Sessions doesn't get caught up in the specifics like old Adolf did (i.e. the "Aryan" Germans being "superior" to the Russians and other Slavic Eastern Europeans) so as long as Pooty prefers the white race and hates the queers, he's OK with Jeffy.
              I had to listen to the guy speak back when I was a Young Republican. Now Roger is many things but a lover of totalitarianism he's not. Give him some credit, he wants pot to be legal. Roger doesn't exactly jive with the Jeff Sessions of the world. Also if Trump was a Russian agent why would he pick a guy like General Mattis to be Secretary of Defense. Mattis has no love for Putin nor does he trust the guy. One thing that is apparent. The Senate Intelligence Committee who are supposed to keep the intelligence agencies from going beyond their mandates and breaking the law haven't done their job for a very long time. If the congress can't keep the intelligence agencies in check well that endangers the whole system. We were duped into a war in Iraq that cost us $6 Billion plus because the intelligence community lied and gave false intelligence. Then you have a congress full of people who make money off these wars. It's not just the Republicans. The Democrats are not as antiwar as they would like you to think and the Obama Administration proves this. Some say Obama was just a puppet of the CIA. With his strange background that might be true. But I think we are seeing the fulfillment of Eisenhower's warnings and predictions. Beware of the military industrial complex and the CIA would leave a legacy of ashes. Well it was the CIA that lied and got us into Iraq and then we just continued invading and destabilizing more and more countries. Now if our government is running on bad intelligence or right out lies and nobody is doing anything about it, that's pretty scary. One thing for sure. The current system needs a boogyman to justify it's existence. It doesn't like negotiating for any kind of peace. Putin is no threat unless he launches his nukes. His eggs are in one basket and we can crash his bond value. We don't need to go to war with Iran. Most the population of that country hate their leaders. We could take the government of Iran down with covert means. We don't need all these kinetic wars but they are profitable. What's ironic now is if you don't want to risk war with Russia you suddenly are a Russian agent. Logically the arguments make no sense.
              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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              • Nitro Express
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 32798

                #8
                Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                I dunno who you're talking to, maybe yourself because it gets lonely there in Jackson's Hole or something...

                I meant the idiotic tweet the Dumpster sent out that is completely baseless and moronic...
                Which Tweet? He has made many and yes some of them are dumb. Did you know Jackson Hole is in the only Democratic county in Wyoming? This place if full of a bunch of liberal tax dodgers from California. Trump isn't well liked in my county by the way.
                Last edited by Nitro Express; 03-21-2017, 02:48 PM.
                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                • vandeleur
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 9870

                  #9
                  Putin not dangerous ??? Ukraine , crimea, flooding Europe with refugees from Syria etc to destabilise countries.
                  Seemingly he has put a puppet in the White House , maybe the usual suspects was right maybe the greatest trick the devil ever pulled etc.
                  Admittedly he doesn't do funny tweets
                  Last edited by vandeleur; 03-21-2017, 02:55 PM.
                  fuck your fucking framing

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32798

                    #10


                    I think it all has to do with losing big. Again I will give the warlock credit for his insight. The Democrats have just become the new Republicans. They have become the party of "no you can't do that!". People are tired of all the political correctness. They are tired of being told what to do. They are tired of being bullied. The Dems lost big not because the Republicans or Trump are that great but the Democrats really have become lame. In the 60's and 70's it was cool to be a Democrat. It was the party of social rebellion and that's fun. Now it's become the establishment of "No You Can't Do That!" People don't like that. All the party has to sell now is free shit and that's about it.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Nitro Express
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 32798

                      #11
                      Originally posted by vandeleur
                      Putin not dangerous ??? Ukraine , crimea, flooding Europe with refugees from Syria etc to destabilise countries.
                      Seemingly he has put a puppet in the White House , maybe the usual suspects was right maybe the greatest trick the devil ever pulled etc.
                      Admittedly he doesn't do funny tweets
                      I think it was Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton that destabilized Syria and Libya and created the refuge problem. Also it was the US State Department (Victoria Nuland) and color revolution hobbyist George Soros who ran a coup in the Ukraine and then used Nazi terrorist groups like Right Sector to kill ethnic Russians. All this was to make Putin act so we would have an excuse to go to war with Russia. I would say the neocons in the US Government have been more dangerous than Putin. Now Crimea is controversial. The Russians say there was vote and the people of Crimea (mostly ethnic) Russians voted to join Russia. Crimea has been part of Russia since Catherine the Great and only became part of Ukraine when Kruzchev (a Ukrainian) gave it to him. Now in the Ukraine the ethnic Ukrainians hate the Russians mostly due to Stalin purging them and starving them to death. So the Ukraine is the perfect place to start a civil war for geopolitical gaming purposes. If Putin is responsible for flooding Europe with Refugees then why is Trump against letting refugees into western countries. Trump wants to set up refugee camps in the middle east and northern Africa. Is Putin dangerous? Potentially so. He's got a large nuclear arsenal but having Putin in charge of that is safer than busting up the whole country full of nuclear weapons. Putin will be dangerous if we start a war with him which neocons like John McCain and others want to do. Trump wants the opposite. As I said, with a government that likes war you suddenly become a Russian agent if you are against it. Trump has nothing to do with that refuge crisis and whether Putin is using is for some strategy who knows. Putin keeps Russia stable. If we can work with him and avoid a war and even work together to defeat Islamic State I say that's worth looking into.
                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • vandeleur
                        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 9870

                        #12
                        What about the funny tweets tho
                        fuck your fucking framing

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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32798

                          #13
                          Some in the US Government want war with Russia. Yes they are that nuts. Now if we start a war with Russia, Europe will have more to worry about than refuges.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Nitro Express
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                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32798

                            #14
                            Originally posted by vandeleur
                            What about the funny tweets tho
                            It's entertainment.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32798

                              #15
                              Seems to be the People's Republic of China and it's Mini Me North Korea who are going ape at the moment. But then civil unrest is growing in China and they have built up the biggest real estate bubble in history and that's heading for a hard crash. That's why you have the Chinese buying real estate wherever they can find it to buy. They want their money out of China and you only can take $500,000 in cash out but you can buy all the foreign real estate you can. You buy buy buy before Being clamps down. Basically you are going to have a lot of craziness all over and Trump will probably be blamed for it all. Ha! ha!
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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