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Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32
By Stephanie McCrummen, Beth Reinhard and Alice Crites
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Leigh Corfman, left, in a photo from 1979, when she was about 14. At right, from top, Wendy Miller at around age 16, Debbie Wesson Gibson at around age 17 and Gloria Thacker Deason at around age 18. (Family photos)
Leigh Corfman says she was 14 years old when an older man approached her outside a courtroom in Etowah County, Ala. She was sitting on a wooden bench with her mother, they both recall, when the man introduced himself as Roy Moore.
It was early 1979 and Moore — now the Republican nominee in Alabama for a U.S. Senate seat — was a 32-year-old assistant district attorney. He struck up a conversation, Corfman and her mother say, and offered to watch the girl while her mother went inside for a child custody hearing.
“He said, ‘Oh, you don’t want her to go in there and hear all that. I’ll stay out here with her,’ ” says Corfman’s mother, Nancy Wells, 71. “I thought, how nice for him to want to take care of my little girl.”
Alone with Corfman, Moore chatted with her and asked for her phone number, she says. Days later, she says, he picked her up around the corner from her house in Gadsden, drove her about 30 minutes to his home in the woods, told her how pretty she was and kissed her. On a second visit, she says, he took off her shirt and pants and removed his clothes. He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear.
“I wanted it over with — I wanted out,” she remembers thinking. “Please just get this over with. Whatever this is, just get it over.” Corfman says she asked Moore to take her home, and he did.
Two of Corfman’s childhood friends say she told them at the time that she was seeing an older man, and one says Corfman identified the man as Moore. Wells says her daughter told her about the encounter more than a decade later, as Moore was becoming more prominent as a local judge.
Aside from Corfman, three other women interviewed by The Washington Post in recent weeks say Moore pursued them when they were between the ages of 16 and 18 and he was in his early 30s, episodes they say they found flattering at the time, but troubling as they got older. None of the women say that Moore forced them into any sort of relationship or sexual contact.
Wendy Miller says she was 14 and working as a Santa’s helper at the Gadsden Mall when Moore first approached her, and 16 when he asked her on dates, which her mother forbade. Debbie Wesson Gibson says she was 17 when Moore spoke to her high school civics class and asked her out on the first of several dates that did not progress beyond kissing. Gloria Thacker Deason says she was an 18-year-old cheerleader when Moore began taking her on dates that included bottles of Mateus Rosé wine. The legal drinking age in Alabama was 19.
Of the four women, the youngest at the time was Corfman, who is the only one who says she had sexual contact with Moore that went beyond kissing. She says they did not have intercourse.
In a written statement, Moore denied the allegations.
“These allegations are completely false and are a desperate political attack by the National Democrat Party and the Washington Post on this campaign,” Moore, now 70, said.
The campaign said in a subsequent statement that if the allegations were true they would have surfaced during his previous campaigns, adding “this garbage is the very definition of fake news.”
None of the women have donated to or worked for Moore’s Democratic opponent, Doug Jones, or his rival in the Republican primary, Luther Strange, according to campaign reports.
Corfman, 53, who works as a customer service representative at a payday loan business, says she has voted for Republicans in the past three presidential elections, including for Donald Trump in 2016. She says she thought of confronting Moore personally for years, and almost came forward publicly during his first campaign for state Supreme Court in 2000, but decided against it. Her two children were still in school then and she worried about how it would affect them. She also was concerned that her background — three divorces and a messy financial history — might undermine her credibility.
“There is no one here that doesn’t know that I’m not an angel,” Corfman says, referring to her home town of Gadsden.
Corfman described her story consistently in six interviews with The Post. The Post confirmed that her mother attended a hearing at the courthouse in February 1979 through divorce records. Moore’s office was down the hall from the courtroom.
Neither Corfman nor any of the other women sought out The Post. While reporting a story in Alabama about supporters of Moore’s Senate campaign, a Post reporter heard that Moore allegedly had sought relationships with teenage girls. Over the ensuing three weeks, two Post reporters contacted and interviewed the four women. All were initially reluctant to speak publicly but chose to do so after multiple interviews, saying they thought it was important for people to know about their interactions with Moore. The women say they don’t know one another.
“I have prayed over this,” Corfman says, explaining why she decided to tell her story now. “All I know is that I can’t sit back and let this continue, let him continue without the mask being removed.”
This account is based on interviews with more than 30 people who said they knew Moore between 1977 and 1982, when he served as an assistant district attorney for Etowah County in northern Alabama, where he grew up.
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Moore was 30 and single when he joined the district attorney’s office, his first government job after attending the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, serving in Vietnam, graduating from law school and working briefly as a lawyer in private practice in Gadsden, the county seat.
By his account, chronicled in his book “So Help Me God,” Moore spent his time as a prosecutor convicting “murderers, rapists, thieves and drug pushers.” He writes that it was “around this time that I fashioned a plaque of The Ten Commandments on two redwood tablets.”
“I believed that many of the young criminals whom I had to prosecute would not have committed criminal acts if they had been taught these rules as children,” Moore writes.
Outside work, Moore writes that he spent his free time building rooms onto a mobile home in Gallant, a rural area about 25 miles west of Gadsden.
According to colleagues and others who knew him at the time, Moore was rarely seen socializing outside work. He spent one season coaching the Gallant Girls, a softball team that his teenaged sister had joined, said several women who played on the team. He spent time working out at the Gadsden YMCA, according to people who encountered him there. And he often walked, usually alone, around the newly opened Gadsden Mall — 6 feet tall and well-dressed in slacks and a button-down shirt, say several women who worked there at the time.
Corfman describes herself as a little lost — “a typical 14-year-old kid of a divorced family” — when she says she first met Moore that day in 1979 outside the courtroom. She says she felt flattered that a grown man was paying attention to her.
“He was charming and smiley,” she says.
After her mother went into the courtroom, Corfman says, Moore asked her where she went to school, what she liked to do and whether he could call her sometime. She remembers giving him her number and says he called not long after. She says she talked to Moore on her phone in her bedroom, and they made plans for him to pick her up at Alcott Road and Riley Street, around the corner from her house.
“I was kind of giddy, excited, you know? An older guy, you know?” Corfman says, adding that her only sexual experience at that point had been kissing boys her age.
She says that it was dark and cold when he picked her up, and that she thought they were going out to eat. Instead, she says, he drove her to his house, which seemed “far, far away.”
“I remember the further I got from my house, the more nervous I got,” Corfman says.
She remembers an unpaved driveway. She remembers going inside and him giving her alcohol on this visit or the next, and that at some point she told him she was 14. She says they sat and talked. She remembers that Moore told her she was pretty, put his arm around her and kissed her, and that she began to feel nervous and asked him to take her home, which she says he did.
Soon after, she says, he called again, and picked her up again at the same spot.
“This was a new experience, and it was exciting and fun and scary,” Corfman says, explaining why she went back. “It was just like this roller-coaster ride you’ve not been on.”
She says that Moore drove her back to the same house after dark, and that before long she was lying on a blanket on the floor. She remembers Moore disappearing into another room and coming out with nothing on but “tight white” underwear.
She remembers that Moore kissed her, that he took off her pants and shirt, and that he touched her through her bra and underpants. She says that he guided her hand to his underwear and that she yanked her hand back.
“I wasn’t ready for that — I had never put my hand on a man’s penis, much less an erect one,” Corfman says.
She remembers thinking, “I don’t want to do this” and “I need to get out of here.” She says that she got dressed and asked Moore to take her home, and that he did.
The legal age of consent in Alabama, then and now, is 16. Under Alabama law in 1979, and today, a person who is at least 19 years old who has sexual contact with someone between 12 and 16 years old has committed sexual abuse in the second degree. Sexual contact is defined as touching of sexual or intimate parts. The crime is a misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in jail.
The law then and now also includes a section on enticing a child younger than 16 to enter a home with the purpose of proposing sexual intercourse or fondling of sexual and genital parts. That is a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison.
In Alabama, the statute of limitations for bringing felony charges involving sexual abuse of a minor in 1979 would have run out three years later, and the time frame for filing a civil complaint would have ended when the alleged victim turned 21, according to Child USA, a nonprofit research and advocacy group at the University of Pennsylvania.
Corfman never filed a police report or a civil suit.
She says that after their last encounter, Moore called again, but that she found an excuse to avoid seeing him. She says that at some point during or soon after her meetings with Moore, she told two friends in vague terms that she was seeing an older man.
Betsy Davis, who remains friendly with Corfman and now lives in Los Angeles, says she clearly remembers Corfman talking about seeing an older man named Roy Moore when they were teenagers. She says Corfman described an encounter in which the older man wore nothing but tight white underwear. She says she was firm with Corfman that seeing someone as old as Moore was out of bounds.
“I remember talking to her and telling her it’s not a good idea,” Davis says. “Because we were so young.”
A second friend, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of losing her job, has a similar memory of a teenaged Corfman telling her about seeing an older man.
After talking to her friends, Corfman says, she began to feel that she had done something wrong and kept it a secret for years.
“I felt responsible,” she says. “I felt like I had done something bad. And it kind of set the course for me doing other things that were bad.”
She says that her teenage life became increasingly reckless with drinking, drugs, boyfriends, and a suicide attempt when she was 16.
As the years went on, Corfman says, she did not share her story about Moore partly because of the trouble in her life. She has had three divorces and financial problems. While living in Arizona, she and her second husband started a screen-printing business that fell into debt. They filed for bankruptcy protection three times, once in 1991 with $139,689 in unpaid claims brought by the Internal Revenue Service and other creditors, according to court records.
In 2005, Corfman paid a fine for driving a boat without lights. In 2010, she was working at a convenience store when she was charged with a misdemeanor for selling beer to a minor. The charge was dismissed, court records show.
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The three other women who spoke to The Post say that Moore asked them on dates when they were between 16 and 18 and he was in his early 30s.
Gloria Thacker Deason says she was 18 and Moore was 32 when they met in 1979 at the Gadsden Mall, where she worked at the jewelry counter of a department store called Pizitz. She says she was attending Gadsden State Community College and still living at home.
“My mom was really, really strict and my curfew was 10:30 but she would let me stay out later with Roy,” says Deason, who is now 57 and lives in North Carolina. “She just felt like I would be safe with him. . . . She thought he was good husband material.”
Deason says that they dated off and on for several months and that he took her to his house at least two times. She says their physical relationship did not go further than kissing and hugging.
“He liked Eddie Rabbitt and I liked Freddie Mercury,” Deason says, referring to the country singer and the British rocker.
She says that Moore would pick her up for dates at the mall or at college basketball games, where she was a cheerleader. She remembers changing out of her uniform before they went out for dinners at a pizzeria called Mater’s, where she says Moore would order bottles of Mateus Rosé, or at a Chinese restaurant, where she says he would order her tropical cocktails at a time when she believes she was younger than 19, the legal drinking age.
“If Mother had known that, she would have had a hissy fit,” says Deason, who says she turned 19 in May 1979, after she and Moore started dating.
This undated family photo shows Wendy Miller around the time she was 16. (Family Photo)
Around the same time that Deason says she met Moore at the jewelry counter, Wendy Miller says that Moore approached her at the mall, where she would spend time with her mom, who worked at a photo booth there. Miller says this was in 1979, when she was 16.
She says that Moore’s face was familiar because she had first met him two years before, when she was dressed as an elf and working as a Santa’s helper at the mall. She says that Moore told her she looked pretty, and that two years later, he began asking her out on dates in the presence of her mother at the photo booth. She says she had a boyfriend at the time, and declined.
Her mother, Martha Brackett, says she refused to grant Moore permission to date her 16-year-old daughter.
“I’d say, ‘You’re too old for her . . . let’s not rob the cradle,’ ” Brackett recalls telling Moore.
Miller, who is now 54 and still lives in Alabama, says she was “flattered by the attention.”
“Now that I’ve gotten older,” she says, “the idea that a grown man would want to take out a teenager, that’s disgusting to me.”
Debbie Wesson Gibson says that she was 17 in the spring of 1981 when Moore spoke to her Etowah High School civics class about serving as the assistant district attorney. She says that when he asked her out, she asked her mother what she would say if she wanted to date a 34-year-old man. Gibson says her mother asked her who the man was, and when Gibson said “Roy Moore,” her mother said, “I’d say you were the luckiest girl in the world.”
Among locals in Gadsden, a town of about 47,000 back then, Moore “had this godlike, almost deity status — he was a hometown boy made good,” Gibson says, “West Point and so forth.”
Gibson says that they dated for two to three months, and that he took her to his house, read her poetry and played his guitar. She says he kissed her once in his bedroom and once by the pool at a local country club.
“Looking back, I’m glad nothing bad happened,” says Gibson, who now lives in Florida. “As a mother of daughters, I realize that our age difference at that time made our dating inappropriate.”
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By 1982, Moore was by his own account in his book causing a stir in the district attorney’s office for his willingness to criticize the workings of the local legal system. He convened a grand jury to look into what he alleged were funding problems in the sheriff’s office. In response, Moore writes, the state bar association investigated him for going against the advice of the district attorney, an inquiry that was dismissed.
Soon after, Moore quit and began his first political campaign for the county’s circuit court judge position. He lost overwhelmingly, and left Alabama shortly thereafter, heading to Texas, where he says in his book that he trained as a kickboxer, and to Australia, where he says he lived on a ranch for a year wrangling cattle.
He returned to Gadsden in 1984 and went into private law practice. In 1985, at age 38, he married Kayla Kisor, who was 24. The two are still married.
A few years later, Moore began his rise in Alabama politics and into the national spotlight.
In 1992, he became a circuit court judge and hung his wooden Ten Commandments plaque in his courtroom.
In 2000, he was elected chief justice of Alabama’s Supreme Court, and he soon installed a 5,280-pound granite Ten Commandments monument in the judicial building.
In 2003, he was dismissed from the bench for ignoring a federal court order to remove the monument, and became known nationally as “The Ten Commandments Judge.”
Moore was again elected chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court in 2012, and was again dismissed for ignoring a judicial order, this time for instructing probate judges not to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.
All of this has made Moore a hero to many Alabama voters, who consider him a stalwart Christian willing to stand up for their values. In a September Republican primary race to replace the seat vacated by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Moore defeated the appointed sitting senator, Luther Strange, who was backed by President Trump and other party leaders in Washington. Moore faces the Democratic nominee, Doug Jones, in a special election scheduled for Dec. 12.
On a visit home in the mid-1990s to see her mother and stepfather in Alabama, Corfman says, she saw Moore’s photo in the Gadsden Times.
“ ‘Mother, do you remember this guy?’ ” Wells says Corfman said at the time.
That’s when Corfman told her, Wells recalls. Her daughter said that not long after the court hearing in 1979, Moore took her to his house. Wells says that her daughter conveyed to her that Moore had behaved inappropriately.
“I was horrified,” Wells says.
Years later, Corfman says, she saw a segment about Moore on ABC News’s “Good Morning America.” She says she threw up.
There were times, Corfman says, she thought about confronting Moore. At one point during the late 1990s, she says, she became so angry that she drove to the parking lot outside Moore’s office at the county courthouse in Gadsden. She sat there for a while, she says, rehearsing what she might say to him.
“ ‘Remember me?’ ” she imagined herself saying.
Kristy
11-09-2017, 03:14 PM
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Mitch McConnell calls on Roy Moore to exit Alabama Senate race ‘if these allegations are true’
By Michael Scherer
Amazon Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/mitch-mcconnell-and-chorus-of-republican-senators-call-on-roy-moore-to-step-aside-in-alabama-senate-race/2017/11/09/4e6da1d2-c57b-11e7-84bc-5e285c7f4512_story.html)
A growing chorus of Senate Republicans including Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) have called on Senate candidate Roy Moore to withdraw from a special election in Alabama if allegations prove true that the former judge initiated a sexual encounter with a 14-year-old girl nearly four decades ago.
“If these allegations are true, he must step aside,” McConnell said in a formal statement on behalf of all Republican senators.
Presuming that Moore or the state GOP withdraw his nomination, the challenge for McConnell and other Republicans will be to figure out what candidate would run in Moore’s place — and how to win an election in which it is too late to replace the former judge’s name on the Dec. 12 ballot.
Under Alabama state law, the ballot cannot be changed within 76 days of an election. But a candidate can still withdraw. The state party can also request that the secretary of state disqualify a candidate on the ballot, even if the candidate wants to stay in the race.
In the event of either disqualification or withdrawal, the appropriate state canvassing boards would not certify any votes cast for Moore.
Alabama state law does allow write-in votes to be cast in general elections, as long as the names are for living people and written in without using a rubber stamp or stick-on label. Sen. Luther Strange (R-Ala.), who lost in the primary to Moore, would be an eligible write-in candidate, said John Bennett, an official at the Alabama Secretary of State’s office.
Strange avoided reporters’ questions in the Capitol Thursday, but his Alabama colleague, Sen. Richard Shelby, said: “Luther Strange is a good senator, he’s a friend, and I support him. I don’t know what he’s going to do, but we’ll see what develops.”
The Washington Post published an extensive report Thursday describing Moore’s relationships with the then-14-year-old and three other girls he pursued when they were between the ages of 16 and 18.
None of the women sought out The Post. While reporting a story in Alabama about supporters of Moore’s Senate campaign, a Post reporter heard that Moore allegedly had sought relationships with teenage girls.
Over the ensuing three weeks, two Post reporters contacted and interviewed the four women. All were initially reluctant to speak publicly but chose to do so after multiple interviews, saying they thought it was important for people to know about their interactions with Moore. The women say they don’t know one another.
The news struck the Capitol with a thunderbolt on Thursday afternoon. As senators headed in for an afternoon vote on a Transportation Department nominee, reporters swarmed Republicans in a bid to get their reaction.
McConnell (R-Ky.) was hounded more than usual as he headed to the Senate Chamber, with reporters shouting questions at a lawmaker they know usually stays mums when asked questions in the hallway.
Once he stepped on to the floor, McConnell quickly voted and conferred with aides. Moments later, Strange came to the floor and headed straight for McConnell. They conferred for several moments before McConnell asked an aide to track down his top spokesman, Don Stewart.
“You can’t make this up,” mouthed one of McConnell’s aides to another colleague.
Stewart came to the floor and told McConnell and Strange that a statement was being sent to reporters. In it, McConnell called on Moore to step down if the allegations are true.
Strange, seemingly unsure of what to do, was instructed to vote and leave the chamber as quickly as possible.
McConnell then conferred with other senators, including Rob Portman (R-Ohio), Thom Tillis (R-N.C.) and John Thune (R-N.D.). Stewart also assured the senators that a statement was out but then, realizing that reporters were watching from above, instructed McConnell, “Please go.”
He walked towards the back door of the Senate Chamber, paused momentarily, and stepped out. Several reporters were waiting for him in the Ohio Clock Corridor.
McConnell’s inner circle spent late Thursday morning discussing the repercussions and how Republicans should move forward — and grousing that if Strange, their preferred candidate in the primary, was still the nominee, they would not be answering questions about Moore’s conduct.
“If it’s true, the Republican Party doesn’t have any place for pedophiles and he should step down immediately,” said Josh Holmes, a longtime McConnell confidant and his former chief of staff. “Steve Bannon is responsible,” he added about the McConnell foil and former White House chief strategist, for enabling candidates such Moore who are out of the GOP mainstream.
That view was shared by Scott Reed, a political strategist for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, who opposed Moore’s nomination. “Here we go — another Steve Bannon special,” Reed said.
Ed O’Keefe, Karoun Demirjian; Paul Kane and David Weigel contributed to this report.
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Seshmeister
11-09-2017, 07:36 PM
Things are so wildly fucked up these days I was actually surprised that the Republican Party said he shouldn't stand if the allegations are true.
The Democrats must be desperate for him to stand as even ignoring the alleagtions he is a complete lunatic.
Von Halen
11-09-2017, 08:12 PM
Whatever happened to “Innocent until proven guilty”?
That actor dude is losing all his jobs, and getting blackballed because of the claim of one guy, with no proof.
What a fucking witch hunt mentality people are perpetuating these days.
Statute of limitations should be up on these motherfuckers that waited years and years to come forward.
Sure is easy to character assassinate someone these days.
These snowflakes like NickDickless and Kristy have forced due process out the window.
Seshmeister
11-09-2017, 08:29 PM
I agree with the innocent until proved guilty thing but there is a line.
Harvey Weinstein has over 90 accusations of sexual assault at this point, Bill Cosby has over 50.
Trump only has around 12 at the moment I think...
Things are so wildly fucked up these days I was actually surprised that the Republican Party said he shouldn't stand if the allegations are true.
The Democrats must be desperate for him to stand as even ignoring the alleagtions he is a complete lunatic.
Well, because this was Grand Wizard Sessions' senate seat, the special election to fill it is December 12, so it's too late to actually take Moore off the ballot. (70 day notice required by Alabama state law) So the only option the Republicans really have is to convince Alabama voters to write in Luther Strange on the ballot... and he already lost the primary to Moore, so that's not a guaranteed strategy for them.
The Democrats have a good chance of picking this seat up whether Moore stays in or not.
Nitro Express
11-09-2017, 08:44 PM
Seems like you can't work in Hollywood or in politics anymore without having some kids lick your Jello pudding pop. I blame Cosby for it.
Nitro Express
11-09-2017, 08:48 PM
Whatever happened to “Innocent until proven guilty”?
That actor dude is losing all his jobs, and getting blackballed because of the claim of one guy, with no proof.
What a fucking witch hunt mentality people are perpetuating these days.
Statute of limitations should be up on these motherfuckers that waited years and years to come forward.
Sure is easy to character assassinate someone these days.
These snowflakes like NickDickless and Kristy have forced due process out the window.
It's because the moron public no longer value their rights like they used to if they even know them at all. Yeah I remember when it was innocent until proven guilty and I hate what you say but you have the right to say it. Now it's all emotion driven nonsense.
Seshmeister
11-09-2017, 08:57 PM
Each case on it's own merits.
Like the Dustin Hoffman one. She says he repeatedly grabbed her ass and talked about her clit and tits and so on each day at work until she stood up to him and then he backed down. He's not denying it and is now apologized.
I don't think anyone should be prosecuted or sued over that now 30 years later but he was the 49 year old boss and she was 17 and I'm left thinking at best he's a bit of a prick.
I've never met one of 'those' guys that I liked, not then even less now. It's fucking creepy especially at that age.
The good news is that young people are the future and on the whole better, I just wish they could get off their phones and fucking vote.
Nickdfresh
11-10-2017, 11:27 AM
It's because the moron public no longer value their rights like they used to if they even know them at all. Yeah I remember when it was innocent until proven guilty and I hate what you say but you have the right to say it. Now it's all emotion driven nonsense.
It's not a trial, its an election. Dummy. You can get fired from your job from allegations like this, especially if your a teacher. Why should some political demagogue asshole like this guy "have his day in court"?
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Nickdfresh
11-10-2017, 12:26 PM
Whatever happened to “Innocent until proven guilty”?
That actor dude is losing all his jobs, and getting blackballed because of the claim of one guy, with no proof.
What a fucking witch hunt mentality people are perpetuating these days.
Statute of limitations should be up on these motherfuckers that waited years and years to come forward.
Sure is easy to character assassinate someone these days.
These snowflakes like NickDickless and Kristy have forced due process out the window.
What ever happened to you jizzing all over your blue dress over each and every Clinton scandel...
Is this the talking points we've been reduced to now? Save the pedophiles and sexual preds?
Von Halen
11-10-2017, 12:54 PM
Scandal dummy. Learn to spell.
What does Anything I️ said have to do with your Clinton heroes, Liberal boy?
Nickdfresh
11-10-2017, 01:00 PM
Scandal dummy. Learn to spell.
What does Anything I️ said have to do with your Clinton heroes, Liberal boy?
That you're a retard and a hypocrite?
By David Wright, CNN
Updated 12:01 PM ET, Fri November 10, 2017
Sex allegations rock Alabama senate race
(CNN)Roy Moore's brother is defending the GOP Senate candidate "to the hilt" amid the escalating controversy over allegations of sexual misconduct against him, according to CNN correspondent Martin Savidge, who spoke to the brother on the phone.
Jerry Moore firmly denied the allegations against his brother and drew an analogy between his situation and the persecution of Jesus Christ, Savidge reported Friday in an interview with CNN's John Berman.
Savidge spoke to Jerry Moore on Friday morning, one day after an explosive Washinton Post report detailed allegations that the Republican Senate candidate from Alabama pursued sexual relationships with several teens when they were between the ages of 14 and 18 and he was in his thirties, including an alleged sexual encounter with the 14-year-old, who would not have been at the age of legal consent under Alabama law.
Jerry Moore said, "he knows ... that the allegations against Roy Moore are not true, not true at all," Savidge reported. The younger Moore also said "he's very concerned about what the impact is going to be on their 91-year-old mother, hearing all of this, they worry about her age and health," Savidge said.
Moore also claimed that the Democratic Party was behind what he called "false allegations," and that "these women are going to, as [Moore] put it, have to answer to God for these false allegations," Savidge said.
"When I asked what does he believe the motivation is with these women coming forward making the accusations they have, again, Jerry Moore says it's money and the Democratic Party, implying that they are doing this because they're being paid in some way, and it is for the purpose of derailing or interrupting this campaign," Savidge said.
Moore went so far as to say "that his brother is being persecuted, in his own words, like Jesus Christ was," according to Savidge. "Very defiant and very outspoken, relying on his faith and defending his brother to the hilt."
Roy Moore, who faces a December 12 US Senate election, denied the allegations in the Post report, telling the newspaper: "These allegations are completely false and are a desperate political attack by the National Democrat Party and The Washington Post on this campaign."
Later Thursday, the candidate tweeted, "The Obama-Clinton Machine's liberal media lapdogs just launched the most vicious and nasty round of attacks against me. We are in the midst of a spiritual battle with those who want to silence our message."
"The forces of evil will lie, cheat, steal -- even inflict physical harm -- if they believe it will silence and shut up Christian conservatives like you and me," he wrote.
Jerry, if you ever actually READ the Bible, you would know that Jesus Christ says your brother should have a millstone hung around his neck, and be drowned at sea. Why don't we do the Christian thing and give old Roy a one way boat ride? :jesuslol:
Nickdfresh
11-10-2017, 02:56 PM
Hey Jesus' mom got banged when she was a teen!
Yeah, but JC's dad was ageless, and no actual sex was involved.
Kristy
11-10-2017, 04:02 PM
Seems like you can't work in Hollywood or in politics anymore without having some kids lick your Jello pudding pop. I blame Cosby for it.
Roy Moore works in Hollywood? Or is this all you F A T fuck Rethuglicons can come up with: Hollywood?
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Go get a stroke, F A T boy.
Von Halen
11-10-2017, 04:45 PM
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He needs a new hat that now says “Making America Great Again”!
How about you and your fellow social workers suck on that for awhile.
Terry
11-10-2017, 04:52 PM
I agree with the innocent until proved guilty thing but there is a line.
Harvey Weinstein has over 90 accusations of sexual assault at this point, Bill Cosby has over 50.
Trump only has around 12 at the moment I think...
Yeah, but Von has a point here, I think.
Now, all that needs to happen is for one - specifically these high profile people - to just have the allegations made about them/against them, and immediately careers get shut down. Before any type of litigation has even commenced, much less concluded.
The rights of accusers are important, but I don't think it falls into the 'blame the victim' category to want a higher standard of proof beyond solely claims or public accusations being made before automatically assuming the accused is guilty via trial by media or the Town Square.
I get that in these groping/molestation cases there often isn't going to be proof beyond the claim itself, and I get that for the victims these incidents elicit feelings of shame and humiliation, and because of that very few victims want to make a claim, public or otherwise...that it took one person publicly speaking out against Weinstein and saying, "he did this to me" to empower others to come forward. I don't by default think every accuser of a public figure is a liar looking for public attention, or a civil suit, or a cash settlement. Doubtless there will be some, though.
And I don't buy the "well, it was different 50 years ago" as anything other than a weak rationalization: clearly it wasn't okay 50 years ago (or 30 or 25 or whatever), or such things would have been boasted about publicly by the victimizers. You never heard Cosby say, "hey, it was the 1970's: slipping a woman Spanish Fly and some roofies when she wasn't looking and then molesting her when she was passed out was just the thing to do back then." Or some such moral relativism put into historical context claim.
I think, as you said, Sesh, you have to look at it on a case by case/claim by claim basis.
If Moore did what has been alleged of him, clearly he should step aside.
If he didn't, he shouldn't step aside.
Von Halen
11-10-2017, 04:59 PM
How about Louis C.K. owning it? There you go.
I️ have a serious question. Do you think Kristy is more pissed off about people getting sexually molested, or the fact that (s)he’s hideous, and never got sexually molested?
If Louis CK is running for public office, he should also step aside. As far as I know, he isn't. His movie premiere has already been canceled, and his TV series was pretty much canceled anyway (poor Seinfeld imitation that it was). So he's paying the price for his perversion, just like Spacey is. I don't have a shred of sympathy for either of them, because fame & money doesn't entitle you to get away with being a perverted asshole.
What makes Roy Moore worse than that is that he wants to write the laws of this country. That was troubling enough when he was merely a theocratic fundaMENTAList religious wackjob. Now he's a pedophile pervert on top of that. Not somebody who should be in the Senate.. or any other public office.
Von Halen
11-10-2017, 05:33 PM
I’m a perverted asshole without fame & money.
Terry
11-10-2017, 07:42 PM
If Louis CK is running for public office, he should also step aside. As far as I know, he isn't. His movie premiere has already been canceled, and his TV series was pretty much canceled anyway (poor Seinfeld imitation that it was). So he's paying the price for his perversion, just like Spacey is. I don't have a shred of sympathy for either of them, because fame & money doesn't entitle you to get away with being a perverted asshole.
What makes Roy Moore worse than that is that he wants to write the laws of this country. That was troubling enough when he was merely a theocratic fundaMENTAList religious wackjob. Now he's a pedophile pervert on top of that. Not somebody who should be in the Senate.. or any other public office.
Yeah, but that's just the point: we don't KNOW that Moore did these things he has been accused of yet. [Moore's] religious or political views are - droll irony should he have done these things to one side - irrelevant: would it have been acceptable for Moore to have molested underage girls if he was a liberal atheist?
It may turn out to be true.
If it isn't true, Moore should continue to campaign.
Terry
11-10-2017, 07:43 PM
I’m a perverted asshole without fame & money.
Really?
You're a pervert?
jacksmar
11-11-2017, 01:00 AM
Could we not be so quick to judge, please?
I know a senator that would kill to fuck a 14 year old piece of ass....
http://tammybruce.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/fat-ted-kennedy-154x300.jpg
jacksmar
11-11-2017, 01:10 AM
hell. I know a singer that shares my attitude towards this...
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https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/9d/4e/46/9d4e4614a425a814a723ddaae42a2859.jpg
Jerry Lee married his 13 year old cousin.... but then incest is considered normal in the slave states too, so not surprising.... :puke:
Terry
11-11-2017, 08:42 AM
Could we not be so quick to judge, please?
I know a senator that would kill to fuck a 14 year old piece of ass....
http://tammybruce.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/fat-ted-kennedy-154x300.jpg
Apparently, there were plenty of rumors in D.C. in the mid to late 1980s about Tedward propositioning female Congressional volunteer staffers, some of whom were under the age of 18. Kennedy, in the midst of a several year booze binge after he ruled out running for President in 1984, may not have known the girls were 16 or 17 although that isn't an excuse.
To Kennedy's credit, he had learned from previous mistakes, thus none of the women he porked in the 1980s ended up being drowned by him afterward.
So, you know, theyah WAS a...er,ah... learning curve theyah...
jacksmar
11-11-2017, 11:28 AM
http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2017/11/06/chandra-levys-family-still-searching-for-new-clues-in-interns-murder/
Chandra Levy’s Family Still Searching For New Clues In Intern’s Murder
condit, Missing Person
MODESTO (CBS13) – The case of murdered Modesto intern Chandra Levy was thrust back in the news as HLN aired a story Sunday night promising new information.
As it turned out it was just a recap of what happened the past 16 years.
CBS13 spoke with Chandra’s mother Susan Levy for reaction on the story. She says she’s ok with it being back in the news but it will never fill the void of losing Chandra.
“Even if I get my answer and the person who did it is responsible, I still never get my daughter back, our family has been fractured,” she said.
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jacksmar
11-11-2017, 12:27 PM
Slaves?
http://www.radioclassics.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/lone-rangertonto.jpg
Everyone is somebody's slave. ___ Bob Dylan ( or Norman Mailer i can't remember which)
jacksmar
11-11-2017, 12:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM7IBrszcl4
jacksmar
11-11-2017, 12:40 PM
Rename Seattle. Heep big Chief slave owner.
That might be hard to get on a bumper sticker...
https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Q2-eulzjAyG-5r_kAmWiswDNEv&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300
Kristy
11-11-2017, 02:18 PM
He needs a new hat that now says “Making America Great Again”!
How about you and your fellow social workers suck on that for awhile.
Speaking of sucking. Appears Grumpy Trumpy loves to suck on Chinese dick. Your disgusting F A T fuck idol who masquerades as a president loves to wear kid gloves when it comes to international diplomacy. Then again, Rethuglicons (like yourself) seem to be nothing more than pussies when it comes to real matters. Soon this steak and ketchup turd gurgling F A T fuck will stoke out and you stupid fucks will finally know it will means to live in a Christian fascist kleptocracy.
http://modernliberals.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Trump_eats.jpg
"Taste like China"
Kristy
11-11-2017, 02:23 PM
I’m a perverted asshole without fame & money.
Don't worry, Vonney. That's why those who actually work will continue to pay for your (Rethuglicon) welfare checks.
Slaves?
http://www.radioclassics.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/lone-rangertonto.jpg
Everyone is somebody's slave. ___ Bob Dylan ( or Norman Mailer i can't remember which)
No, Dylan said you gotta serve somebody... which ain't exactly slavery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jplk3O6_HAY
Kristy
11-11-2017, 04:13 PM
Ghey.
Kristy
11-11-2017, 04:17 PM
5 Reasons Grumpy Trumpy Will Die Before 2020
" It's what you get when you elect a president who brags about not eating pizza crust as if that's equivalent to completing an Ironman without training."
https://www.salon.com/2017/07/23/5-reasons-trump-is-a-health-calamity-waiting-to-happen_partner/
Von Halen
11-11-2017, 04:27 PM
[b]5 Reasons Grumpy Trumpy Will Die Before 2020
At the rate you violent Liberals are killing each other, you’ll be dead long before 2024, when he completes his run as your President.
Igosplut
11-11-2017, 04:45 PM
Apparently, there were plenty of rumors in D.C. in the mid to late 1980s about Tedward propositioning female Congressional volunteer staffers, some of whom were under the age of 18. Kennedy, in the midst of a several year booze binge after he ruled out running for President in 1984, may not have known the girls were 16 or 17 although that isn't an excuse.
To Kennedy's credit, he had learned from previous mistakes, thus none of the women he porked in the 1980s ended up being drowned by him afterward.
So, you know, theyah WAS a...er,ah... learning curve theyah...
Kennedy swimming lessons........
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g183/Igosplut/ted_zpspr5r1cyr.jpg (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/Igosplut/media/ted_zpspr5r1cyr.jpg.html)
Kristy
11-11-2017, 06:25 PM
http://dailycandidnews.com/wp-content/uploads/17098566_10154717687732535_7581228930245529420_n-708x400.jpg
F A T T Y F A T F U C K
Yes, I'm body shaming him.
twonabomber
11-11-2017, 06:40 PM
Corfman described her story consistently in six interviews with The Post.
The story wasn't that good. I only jerked off to it once.
Terry
11-11-2017, 09:07 PM
http://dailycandidnews.com/wp-content/uploads/17098566_10154717687732535_7581228930245529420_n-708x400.jpg
F A T T Y F A T F U C K
Yes, I'm body shaming him.
Are those pics altered?
Not that you altered them, but were they originally altered?
If not, what a doughy old dude.
The picture on the right looks like he has adult diapers on underneath his pants.
Are those pics altered?
Not that you altered them, but were they originally altered?
If not, what a doughy old dude.
The picture on the right looks like he has adult diapers on underneath his pants.
...and they look like they need to be changed :puke:
Kristy
11-11-2017, 09:29 PM
Are those pics altered?
Not that you altered them, but were they originally altered?
No. And no.
Seshmeister
11-11-2017, 09:44 PM
Are those pics altered?
Not that you altered them, but were they originally altered?
Wow shows the amount of FAKE NEWS you guys are getting that even you who isn't a fan haven't noticed he's a FAT UGLY FUCK.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDDzrqZU0AAYQuV.jpg
Kristy
11-11-2017, 10:04 PM
https://youtu.be/nvLQqe79eGY
Igosplut
11-11-2017, 10:22 PM
Wow shows the amount of FAKE NEWS you guys are getting that even you who isn't a fan haven't noticed he's a FAT UGLY FUCK.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDDzrqZU0AAYQuV.jpg
Big surprise there...
Seshmeister
11-11-2017, 10:29 PM
Yeah I think it's because most of the media owners look like that too.
The reason to bring it up is that he loves to pass remarks on other people so much.
Igosplut
11-11-2017, 10:35 PM
Nobody for the most part looks good at 70+. Especially someone who lived a soft life.
Von Halen
11-11-2017, 10:37 PM
Are those pics altered?
Yes. Kristy photoshopped her own fat ass onto those photo’s.
Nickdfresh
11-11-2017, 10:39 PM
How about Louis C.K. owning it? There you go.
I️ have a serious question. Do you think Kristy is more pissed off about people getting sexually molested, or the fact that (s)he’s hideous, and never got sexually molested?
How shitty is it to have to admit he whipped out his dick and jerked it in-front of horrified women? I mean, when did that seem like a great idea?
Igosplut
11-11-2017, 10:39 PM
Yes. Kristy photoshopped her own fat ass onto those photo’s.
Menopause puts weight on ya........
Von Halen
11-11-2017, 10:48 PM
Menopause puts weight on ya........
You mean Manopause.
Von Halen
11-11-2017, 10:53 PM
How shitty is it to have to admit he whipped out his dick and jerked it in-front of horrified women? I mean, when did that seem like a great idea?
Is it shitty they were horrified, or that he did it in the first place?
That’s a crazy move, no matter who you are, or think you are. What a weirdo.
By the way, his last stand up special on Netflix that everybody was raving about, fucking SUCKED!
Seshmeister
11-11-2017, 11:14 PM
Nobody for the most part looks good at 70+. Especially someone who lived a soft life.
For the most part though they don't think that young women find them sexy and attractive.
Libertarian Penn Jillette who sat through maybe 80 hours of 'board room' chat from Trump has said that Trump was genuinely convinced that every woman that was ever on that show wanted to fuck him.
Terry
11-12-2017, 10:11 AM
How shitty is it to have to admit he whipped out his dick and jerked it in-front of horrified women? I mean, when did that seem like a great idea?
Yeah, I mean...just bizarre.
And what struck me with C.K.'s admission is that it came off like some sort of sardonic, anti-social comedic bit of the type he is known for. At least that's how I felt about it when seeing it in print form.
Just a flat-out creep.
Terry
11-12-2017, 10:15 AM
Wow shows the amount of FAKE NEWS you guys are getting that even you who isn't a fan haven't noticed he's a FAT UGLY FUCK.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDDzrqZU0AAYQuV.jpg
Well, I knew he was hardly what one would call svelte just from images of his face, but the pics I have seen of him in the last several years have all been the standard suit and tie variety.
Porky old dude. He might want to lay off the second scoop of ice cream he reportedly has for dessert.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCkxN7A2PUg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-bLb_fjijw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmXN2FSbUNk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRICbOcwzII
https://i.imgur.com/zuGQhaS.jpg
https://images.dailykos.com/images/471809/story_image/TMW2017-11-15color.png
Another woman has come forward to accuse PedoMoore. This is her statement....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOiXBCSU8AAQcRr.jpg
Either this pedo-rapist bastard is toast, or the entire Repukelican party will be in the next election. This is far worse than the candidates talking about "legitimate rape" and "bartering chickens for health care".
Seshmeister
11-13-2017, 07:12 PM
Nobody for the most part looks good at 70+. Especially someone who lived a soft life.
It wouldn't usually be an issue but in his case he thinks he looks amazing and that all women want him and that he can say anything about everyone else.
His whole personality is built on a delusion that he is amazing, ego off the scale but with nothing to back it up.
jacksmar
11-13-2017, 08:24 PM
Another woman has come forward to accuse PedoMoore. This is her statement....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOiXBCSU8AAQcRr.jpg
Either this pedo-rapist bastard is toast, or the entire Repukelican party will be in the next election. This is far worse than the candidates talking about "legitimate rape" and "bartering chickens for health care".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0
jacksmar
11-13-2017, 08:28 PM
bang bus?
https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1440,w_2560,x_0,y_0/dpr_2.0/c_limit,w_585/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1510605849/171113-wilson-moore-tease_mjd9x2
newyorker.com
Locals Were Troubled by Roy Moore’s Interactions with Teen Girls at the Gadsden Mall
By Charles Bethea6:22 P.M.
9-11 minutes
Roy Moore, the Republican Senate candidate and former chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, was born in Gadsden, a small city flanked by Interstate 59 and the Coosa River, an hour northeast of Birmingham. Gadsden is hilly, woodsy, blue-collar, and religious. “LEGAL OR NOT, SIN IS SIN,” a sign in front of a church announced yesterday. I saw it as I drove around, crisscrossing George Wallace Drive. I also saw Trump posters, Confederate flags, and dozens of signs for Doug Jones, the Democrat tied with Moore in recent Senate-race polls. Gadsden is the seat of Etowah County, which is a conservative place; Donald Trump received three times as many votes in the county as Hillary Clinton did. (Statewide, he received twice as many.) But I didn’t, in all my driving, see a single yard sign for Moore, the home-town son. Even the parking lot of the one mall in town had more bumper stickers for Luther Strange (four), Moore’s opponent in the Republican primary, than for Moore himself (one).
The Gadsden Mall opened in 1974. It has two department stores, Belk and Sears, one on each end. Between them, on Sunday night, I walked past Books-A-Million, Cellular Solutions, a Japanese steak house, Great American Cookies, Blacklight Mini-Golf, KnockerBall Gadsden, an eyebrow-styling kiosk, and a clothing store for young girls, called Justice. A diverse assortment of families wandered around the place, which felt trapped in time. Two young security guards made their rounds. “It gets rough in here on Saturday nights,” one of them told me, mentioning fighting, stealing, and gun-toting. “We still have an active ban list,” the other said, referencing a list of chronic rule-breakers not allowed on mall property. “But it doesn’t go back that far.”
He meant back to the early eighties, when Roy Moore was, many people say, a regular visitor to the mall. On Thursday, the Washington Post reported that, when Moore was a thirty-two-year-old assistant district attorney in Etowah County, he brought Leigh Corfman, who was fourteen years old at the time, to his home and sexually molested her. Three additional women told the Post that Moore had pursued them when they were in their teens and he was in his early thirties. (On Monday, another woman, Beverly Young Nelson, said that Moore assaulted her when she was sixteen years old. At a press conference, she held up a high-school yearbook that she said Moore signed before the alleged assault.) Two of the women say that they first met Moore at the Gadsden Mall, and the Post reports that several other women who used to work there remembered Moore’s frequent presence—“usually alone” and “well-dressed in slacks and a button-down shirt.”
Beverly Young Nelson, who has accused Roy Moore of sexual assault, holds up a high-school yearbook that she says Moore signed when he was in his thirties.
Photograph by Eduardo Munoz Alvarez / AFP / Getty
This past weekend, I spoke or messaged with more than a dozen people—including a major political figure in the state—who told me that they had heard, over the years, that Moore had been banned from the mall because he repeatedly badgered teen-age girls. Some say that they heard this at the time, others in the years since. These people include five members of the local legal community, two cops who worked in the town, several people who hung out at the mall in the early eighties, and a number of former mall employees. (A request for comment from the Moore campaign was not answered.) Several of them asked that I leave their names out of this piece. The stories that they say they’ve heard for years have been swirling online in the days since the Post published its report. “Sources tell me Moore was actually banned from the Gadsden Mall and the YMCA for his inappropriate behavior of soliciting sex from young girls,” the independent Alabama journalist Glynn Wilson wrote on his Web site on Sunday. (Wilson declined to divulge his sources.) Teresa Jones, a deputy district attorney for Etowah County in the early eighties, told CNN last week that “it was common knowledge that Roy dated high-school girls.” Jones told me that she couldn’t confirm the alleged mall banning, but said, “It’s a rumor I’ve heard for years.”
Greg Legat, who is now fifty-nine and living in East Gadsden, was, from 1981 to 1985, an employee at the Record Bar, a store that was in the Gadsden Mall. By the early eighties, Legat told me, the mall was “the place to be. There were no empty stores. And lots of kids came around. Lots of teen-agers. You went there to see and be seen.” Legat met his wife, Jo Anne, there. She worked at a restaurant called Orange Bowl. Legat remembers that parents dropped their kids off at the mall, typically unchaperoned. Teens filled the place.
Legat says that he saw Moore there a few times, even though his understanding then was that he had already been banned. “It started around 1979, I think,” Legat said. “I know the ban was still in place when I got there.” Legat recalled a Gadsden police officer named J. D. Thomas, now retired, who worked security at the mall. “J. D. was a fixture there, when I was working at the store,” Legat said. “He really looked after the kids there. He was a good guy. J. D. told me, ‘If you see Roy, let me know. He’s banned from the mall.’ ” Legat recalled Thomas telling him, “If you see Moore here, tell me. I’ll take care of him.’ ” Legat said that his boss, Eddie Hill, also told him to look for Moore. A phone call to Hill’s number was not returned.
Reached by phone on Saturday, Thomas, who lives in the nearby town of Southside, declined to discuss the existence of a ban on Moore at the Gadsden Mall. “I don’t have anything to say about that,” he said. A former manager of the mall, who began working there in the late eighties, confirmed the existence of a ban list, but did not recall Moore being on the list during the manager’s tenure there. Barnes Boyle, who is eighty-six, also managed the mall, from 1981 to 1998. His wife, Brenda, told me that Moore was a longtime acquaintance of his—they went to the Y.M.C.A. together often—and that he planned to vote for him. The recent allegations against Moore, the Boyles thought, are likely liberal propaganda and, as Brenda put it, “a sign of the times.”
Jason Nelms, an I.T. worker who grew up in nearby Southside and now lives in Tennessee, regularly visited the Gadsden Mall as a teen-ager, in the early eighties. “It was a joke from one of the managers/assistant managers that they couldn’t keep an eye on their theater and an eye on the kids outside,” he explained to me via Facebook Messenger. “Us kids would congregate outside on the sidewalk near the theater after the mall closed on Friday and Saturday nights. Anyway, when asked why they had to keep an eye outside, they said that some older guy had been trying to pick up younger girls. They didn’t go beyond that but one of the concession workers whispered to us later that it was Roy Moore he was talking about.”
Gadsden’s current law-enforcement community could not confirm the existence of a mall ban on Moore. But two officers I spoke to this weekend, both of whom asked to remain unnamed, told me that they have long heard stories about Moore and the mall. “The general knowledge at the time when I moved here was that this guy is a lawyer cruising the mall for high-school dates,” one of the officers said. The legal age of consent in Alabama is sixteen, so it would not be illegal there for a man in his early thirties to date a girl who was, say, a senior in high school. But these officers, along with the other people I spoke to, said that Moore’s presence at the mall was regarded as a problem. “I was told by a girl who worked at the mall that he’d been run off from there, from a number of stores. Maybe not legally banned, but run off,” one officer told me. He also said, “I heard from one girl who had to tell the manager of a store at the mall to get Moore to leave her alone.”
The second officer went further. “A friend of mine told me he was banned from there,” he said. He added, “I actually voted for Moore. I liked him at one time. But I’m basically disgusted now, to be honest with you. Some of the things he’s said recently, I’ve changed my tune completely about this guy.” He went on, explaining why Moore no longer appeals to him. “When I heard what he said on ‘Hannity’ the other night,” he said, referring to an appearance Moore made on Sean Hannity’s radio show last Friday, “I almost stood straight up. The thing about how he’s never dated anybody without their mother’s permission, that appalled me. That made me want to throw up. Why would you need someone’s permission to date somebody? I’m probably gonna write in Luther Strange.”
Moore has mounted various defenses since the Post story appeared. Among these is his “special concern for the protection of young ladies,” as he put it to Hannity. The Fox News host pressed for specifics. “I don’t know Ms. Corfman from anybody,” Moore went on. “I never talked to her, never had any contact with her. Allegations of sexual misconduct with her are completely false. I believe they are politically motivated. I believe they are brought only to stop a very successful campaign, and that’s what they are doing. I’ve never known this woman.” When questioned about the other women cited in the Post story, he said that he couldn’t be expected to remember every woman he’d ever dated. “After my return from the military,” he said, “I dated a lot of young ladies.”
Terry
11-13-2017, 09:12 PM
It wouldn't usually be an issue but in his case he thinks he looks amazing and that all women want him and that he can say anything about everyone else.
His whole personality is built on a delusion that he is amazing, ego off the scale but with nothing to back it up.
Yes, but even if you had the opportunity to tell this to him directly, the only response you would get would be him saying that he's the President of the United States, and you're a loser.
I mean, it doesn't even matter that his real estate career was something inherited from his father, and he would lie about things like the actual number of floors in his buildings (often fabricating a much higher number than actually existed), and he would stiff contractors after they built the buildings...or how the helicopter he flew around with that had the word TRUMP printed on it in was one he leased rather than owned...or how his Atlantic City casinos drove him into bankruptcy (how often does one go bust owning a fucking CASINO, fer chrissakes?!)...or any of the literally thousands upon thousands of lies he has told publicly...or how once during a deposition he was giving in a lawsuit when asked how he measured his financial net worth he literally testified that it depended on how he is FELT emotionally from one day to the next...
All of everything I mentioned above - along with all the many, many things about the man I didn't - are secondary at best. Mostly because the man has been fabricating his own reality for so long, buying into his own bullshit hype, making it all up as he goes along.
And look where it has gotten him!
I mean, if he was egomaniacal before, getting elected President of the United States was never going to temper that personality defect. If anything, that defect has now gone into hyperdrive., and sadly he has the power of the Oval Office to back it up.
Seshmeister
11-13-2017, 09:22 PM
Actually standing there saying with Putin saying that he believes him over all the US security services and even Facebook itself is some insane shit.
Putin must be LHFAO, and he has won so cheaply.
https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/930370907973054464/4MwCmf_O?format=jpg&name=600x314
Terry
11-14-2017, 05:02 PM
Actually standing there saying with Putin saying that he believes him over all the US security services and even Facebook itself is some insane shit.
Putin must be LHFAO, and he has won so cheaply.
It's Bizarro World.
Trump says he has asked Putin a few times if the Russians were trying to manipulate the election results. Is Trump not smart enough to not even bother asking Putin the question in the first place, knowing that Putin would have no compunctions about lying whatever the truth was? Is Trump really that foolish to take Putin at his word and place a higher value on that over what our own intelligence agencies have said on the matter?
It all ties into Trump concocting his own reality, regardless of the facts, and subsequently actually buying into the reality he has concocted.
Perhaps understandable in this instance, for the alternative sharply puts into question the legitimacy of Trump's victory.
By Cheeto's own fucked up standards, once you tell a lie three times, it becomes believable somehow.....
https://thelastofthemillenniums.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/trump-lie.jpg
....so if Pooty said "Nyet" to interfering in the elections three times, that's good enough for Herr Orangenfuhrer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_LpDSzcJIQ
Seshmeister
11-15-2017, 08:00 PM
It's Bizarro World.
Trump says he has asked Putin a few times if the Russians were trying to manipulate the election results. Is Trump not smart enough to not even bother asking Putin the question in the first place, knowing that Putin would have no compunctions about lying whatever the truth was? Is Trump really that foolish to take Putin at his word and place a higher value on that over what our own intelligence agencies have said on the matter?
It's even more fucked up than that because what difference does it make if Putin said 'So you must be pleased with all the help we gave you getting elected'?
Why trust what Trump said about what Putin said?
Trump lies all the time constantly, I bet he lies more often that Putin because Putin probably avoids telling the stupid pointless ones.
http://assets.amuniversal.com/a097ed70ab7e0135fd56005056a9545d.gif
Terry
11-15-2017, 08:33 PM
It's even more fucked up than that because what difference does it make if Putin said 'So you must be pleased with all the help we gave you getting elected'?
Why trust what Trump said about what Putin said?
Trump lies all the time constantly, I bet he lies more often that Putin because Putin probably avoids telling the stupid pointless ones.
I mean, I can't disagree: the man has lied so often, just as often with total disregard for easily proven factual counterclaims to the lies he has told, that Trump simply isn't to be trusted at face value about virtually anything he says, ever.
Which isn't to say that other presidents haven't lied, as pretty much ALL people lie at one time or another. However, MOST times when confronted with facts that directly contradict or expose the lies, MOST people will backpedal or at the very least admit they were lying.
To be sure, past presidents have also been selective in what they have stressed in order to frame agendas, or frame their worldviews.
Trump's entire life has been a charade. A con. Trump is a grifter. Against long odds, he played his con into the Oval Office.
Good for him.
The trouble comes when Trump has to go before the American public and offer explanations on events more serious/consequential than, say, who is going to win Celebrity Apprentice. Outside of his hardcore supporters (more than a few whom I'm willing to bet deep down know he's completely full of shit), Trump has no credibility with the American public.
Not a great spot for the President to be in. Nor the rest of us in America. Nor the rest of the world.
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/BenneC/2017/BenneC20171117_low.jpg
Nickdfresh
11-17-2017, 05:20 PM
https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1440,w_2560,x_0,y_0/dpr_2.0/c_limit,w_585/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1510605849/171113-wilson-moore-tease_mjd9x2
newyorker.com
Locals Were Troubled by Roy Moore’s Interactions with Teen Girls at the Gadsden Mall
By Charles Bethea6:22 P.M.
9-11 minutes
Roy Moore, the Republican Senate candidate and former chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, was born in Gadsden, a small city flanked by Interstate 59 and the Coosa River, an hour northeast of Birmingham. Gadsden is hilly, woodsy, blue-collar, and religious. “LEGAL OR NOT, SIN IS SIN,” a sign in front of a church announced yesterday. I saw it as I drove around, crisscrossing George Wallace Drive. I also saw Trump posters, Confederate flags, and dozens of signs for Doug Jones, the Democrat tied with Moore in recent Senate-race polls. Gadsden is the seat of Etowah County, which is a conservative place; Donald Trump received three times as many votes in the county as Hillary Clinton did. (Statewide, he received twice as many.) But I didn’t, in all my driving, see a single yard sign for Moore, the home-town son. Even the parking lot of the one mall in town had more bumper stickers for Luther Strange (four), Moore’s opponent in the Republican primary, than for Moore himself (one).
The Gadsden Mall opened in 1974. It has two department stores, Belk and Sears, one on each end. Between them, on Sunday night, I walked past Books-A-Million, Cellular Solutions, a Japanese steak house, Great American Cookies, Blacklight Mini-Golf, KnockerBall Gadsden, an eyebrow-styling kiosk, and a clothing store for young girls, called Justice. A diverse assortment of families wandered around the place, which felt trapped in time. Two young security guards made their rounds. “It gets rough in here on Saturday nights,” one of them told me, mentioning fighting, stealing, and gun-toting. “We still have an active ban list,” the other said, referencing a list of chronic rule-breakers not allowed on mall property. “But it doesn’t go back that far.”
He meant back to the early eighties, when Roy Moore was, many people say, a regular visitor to the mall. On Thursday, the Washington Post reported that, when Moore was a thirty-two-year-old assistant district attorney in Etowah County, he brought Leigh Corfman, who was fourteen years old at the time, to his home and sexually molested her. Three additional women told the Post that Moore had pursued them when they were in their teens and he was in his early thirties. (On Monday, another woman, Beverly Young Nelson, said that Moore assaulted her when she was sixteen years old. At a press conference, she held up a high-school yearbook that she said Moore signed before the alleged assault.) Two of the women say that they first met Moore at the Gadsden Mall, and the Post reports that several other women who used to work there remembered Moore’s frequent presence—“usually alone” and “well-dressed in slacks and a button-down shirt.”
Beverly Young Nelson, who has accused Roy Moore of sexual assault, holds up a high-school yearbook that she says Moore signed when he was in his thirties.
Photograph by Eduardo Munoz Alvarez / AFP / Getty
This past weekend, I spoke or messaged with more than a dozen people—including a major political figure in the state—who told me that they had heard, over the years, that Moore had been banned from the mall because he repeatedly badgered teen-age girls. Some say that they heard this at the time, others in the years since. These people include five members of the local legal community, two cops who worked in the town, several people who hung out at the mall in the early eighties, and a number of former mall employees. (A request for comment from the Moore campaign was not answered.) Several of them asked that I leave their names out of this piece. The stories that they say they’ve heard for years have been swirling online in the days since the Post published its report. “Sources tell me Moore was actually banned from the Gadsden Mall and the YMCA for his inappropriate behavior of soliciting sex from young girls,” the independent Alabama journalist Glynn Wilson wrote on his Web site on Sunday. (Wilson declined to divulge his sources.) Teresa Jones, a deputy district attorney for Etowah County in the early eighties, told CNN last week that “it was common knowledge that Roy dated high-school girls.” Jones told me that she couldn’t confirm the alleged mall banning, but said, “It’s a rumor I’ve heard for years.”
Greg Legat, who is now fifty-nine and living in East Gadsden, was, from 1981 to 1985, an employee at the Record Bar, a store that was in the Gadsden Mall. By the early eighties, Legat told me, the mall was “the place to be. There were no empty stores. And lots of kids came around. Lots of teen-agers. You went there to see and be seen.” Legat met his wife, Jo Anne, there. She worked at a restaurant called Orange Bowl. Legat remembers that parents dropped their kids off at the mall, typically unchaperoned. Teens filled the place.
Legat says that he saw Moore there a few times, even though his understanding then was that he had already been banned. “It started around 1979, I think,” Legat said. “I know the ban was still in place when I got there.” Legat recalled a Gadsden police officer named J. D. Thomas, now retired, who worked security at the mall. “J. D. was a fixture there, when I was working at the store,” Legat said. “He really looked after the kids there. He was a good guy. J. D. told me, ‘If you see Roy, let me know. He’s banned from the mall.’ ” Legat recalled Thomas telling him, “If you see Moore here, tell me. I’ll take care of him.’ ” Legat said that his boss, Eddie Hill, also told him to look for Moore. A phone call to Hill’s number was not returned.
Reached by phone on Saturday, Thomas, who lives in the nearby town of Southside, declined to discuss the existence of a ban on Moore at the Gadsden Mall. “I don’t have anything to say about that,” he said. A former manager of the mall, who began working there in the late eighties, confirmed the existence of a ban list, but did not recall Moore being on the list during the manager’s tenure there. Barnes Boyle, who is eighty-six, also managed the mall, from 1981 to 1998. His wife, Brenda, told me that Moore was a longtime acquaintance of his—they went to the Y.M.C.A. together often—and that he planned to vote for him. The recent allegations against Moore, the Boyles thought, are likely liberal propaganda and, as Brenda put it, “a sign of the times.”
Jason Nelms, an I.T. worker who grew up in nearby Southside and now lives in Tennessee, regularly visited the Gadsden Mall as a teen-ager, in the early eighties. “It was a joke from one of the managers/assistant managers that they couldn’t keep an eye on their theater and an eye on the kids outside,” he explained to me via Facebook Messenger. “Us kids would congregate outside on the sidewalk near the theater after the mall closed on Friday and Saturday nights. Anyway, when asked why they had to keep an eye outside, they said that some older guy had been trying to pick up younger girls. They didn’t go beyond that but one of the concession workers whispered to us later that it was Roy Moore he was talking about.”
Gadsden’s current law-enforcement community could not confirm the existence of a mall ban on Moore. But two officers I spoke to this weekend, both of whom asked to remain unnamed, told me that they have long heard stories about Moore and the mall. “The general knowledge at the time when I moved here was that this guy is a lawyer cruising the mall for high-school dates,” one of the officers said. The legal age of consent in Alabama is sixteen, so it would not be illegal there for a man in his early thirties to date a girl who was, say, a senior in high school. But these officers, along with the other people I spoke to, said that Moore’s presence at the mall was regarded as a problem. “I was told by a girl who worked at the mall that he’d been run off from there, from a number of stores. Maybe not legally banned, but run off,” one officer told me. He also said, “I heard from one girl who had to tell the manager of a store at the mall to get Moore to leave her alone.”
The second officer went further. “A friend of mine told me he was banned from there,” he said. He added, “I actually voted for Moore. I liked him at one time. But I’m basically disgusted now, to be honest with you. Some of the things he’s said recently, I’ve changed my tune completely about this guy.” He went on, explaining why Moore no longer appeals to him. “When I heard what he said on ‘Hannity’ the other night,” he said, referring to an appearance Moore made on Sean Hannity’s radio show last Friday, “I almost stood straight up. The thing about how he’s never dated anybody without their mother’s permission, that appalled me. That made me want to throw up. Why would you need someone’s permission to date somebody? I’m probably gonna write in Luther Strange.”
Moore has mounted various defenses since the Post story appeared. Among these is his “special concern for the protection of young ladies,” as he put it to Hannity. The Fox News host pressed for specifics. “I don’t know Ms. Corfman from anybody,” Moore went on. “I never talked to her, never had any contact with her. Allegations of sexual misconduct with her are completely false. I believe they are politically motivated. I believe they are brought only to stop a very successful campaign, and that’s what they are doing. I’ve never known this woman.” When questioned about the other women cited in the Post story, he said that he couldn’t be expected to remember every woman he’d ever dated. “After my return from the military,” he said, “I dated a lot of young ladies.”
Well, Sesh and Von will tell you to take this on a "case by case" basis...
Igosplut
11-17-2017, 09:09 PM
For the most part though they don't think that young women find them sexy and attractive.
Libertarian Penn Jillette who sat through maybe 80 hours of 'board room' chat from Trump has said that Trump was genuinely convinced that every woman that was ever on that show wanted to fuck him.
That's the rich thinking....Everybody's willing to bend over for the money...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moJCe8uFvFc
https://i.imgur.com/KgyLFh0.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHqVl_b070Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERqxTq1MZ1o
Terry
11-22-2017, 05:32 PM
Honestly, is Trump in essence endorsing Moore a surprise?
Trump wants a 'success' up on the board via tax reform. If saying a few kind words for Moore is the price of admission in terms of getting the Senate head counts to what is needed for a February vote, Trump's game.
But what Cheeto is actually saying is that Jones - a guy who prosecuted KKK bastards for blowing up churches - is "bad on crime", while a serial pedophile is "good". There's no justification for that in the name of tax "cuts" for treasonous leeches who haven't paid a penny in taxes as it is since 1981.
Terry
11-23-2017, 10:30 AM
Yeah, but you speak about this as if Trump is bound by the constraints of logic, ethics and morality in terms of getting his tax bill (or virtually any other Trump situation, come to think of it).
I tend to doubt Trump generally engages in a deeply reflective, nuanced thought process. It's just a very straightforward "I want this, I'll say whatever/do whatever to get it" equation for him. The way his mind work...it isn't boggled down with complexity or deep ponderings of moral ambiguities.
It's "Roy Moore said he wasn't guilty, it was 40 years ago, Roy Moore's vote is something I want, Roy Moore is good, Democrats are bad," and nothing more than that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_gG3Z757mQ
http://i64.tinypic.com/2j19z4y.jpg
Nickdfresh
11-26-2017, 11:04 AM
https://pics.onsizzle.com/jared-fogle-ex-subway-spokesman-gets-15-years-in-prison-for-1868374.png
Has plans, after prison...
Seshmeister
12-03-2017, 05:26 PM
Like a lot of things in politics these days, Moore still being ahead in the polls in Alabama is just inexplicable to me.
Then I read this and think ahhh...
http://ufconly.com/couple-hospitalized-after-man-gets-his-head-stuck-in-his-wifes-vagina/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ0yOqAsiuc
https://i.imgur.com/AoHQDal.jpg
Nickdfresh
12-05-2017, 03:01 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/1zsuml.jpg
Terry
12-05-2017, 08:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ0yOqAsiuc
Alan Keyes!
Haven't heard anything about him since Obama cleaned his clock in 2004.
Yeah, Keyes is still a bit looney as ever...although Ben Carson makes Keyes seem totally reasonable by way of comparison.
Terry
12-05-2017, 08:18 PM
Like a lot of things in politics these days, Moore still being ahead in the polls in Alabama is just inexplicable to me.
Then I read this and think ahhh...
http://ufconly.com/couple-hospitalized-after-man-gets-his-head-stuck-in-his-wifes-vagina/
Moore may well win for no reason other than JUST enough Alabamans voting for him simply to spite all the out-of-staters who are bitching about him.
It's an attitude that has existed long before, say, the advent of cable news...or before anybody had even heard the name Donald Trump.
George Wallace ring a bell?
WASHINGTON (https://politics.theonion.com/new-rnc-ad-endorses-roy-moore-he-s-a-scumbag-but-he-1821020657)—Recognizing that he’s a piece of shit who doesn’t deserve to walk the face of the earth yet was still on the right side of party lines, the Republican National Committee released their new “He’s A Scumbag, But He’s Our Scumbag” ad Tuesday to endorse Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore. “He’s a horrendous slimeball and a totally fucking despicable lowlife creep, but above all, he’s a republican, and that’s what matters,” said RNC chair Ronna Romney McDaniel, adding that the slogan, which would be emblazoned across campaign banners, buttons, and commercials, embodied the party’s principles even if its ranks happen to include a disgusting, immoral, garbage person like Roy Moore. “We might not all agree on some of his actions, and we may take offense to his vile beliefs, but in the end, he does vote with the party on the issues we need him to. I think the voters will understand that yes, we are asking them to vote for a racist, sexist, xenophobic alleged pedophile but at the same time, he’s our repulsive cesspool of a human being.” At press time, the RNC was reportedly celebrating Roy Moore’s surge in the polls among Alabama republicans in response to the ad.
Seshmeister
12-07-2017, 09:32 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOhpw4kVwAAgJUp.jpg
Nickdfresh
12-07-2017, 09:50 PM
Roy Moore actually said we were better under slavery! LMFAO. Yeah, we were better during the Holocaust and when you could fuck underage girls if you married them!
Roy Moore: Last Time America Was 'Great' Was During 'Slavery'
Newsweek John Haltiwanger,Newsweek 3 hours ago
Roy Moore, the Alabama Senate candidate under fire for alleged sexual misconduct with teenage girls when he was in his 30s, apparently believes America was a better place at a time when slavery was still legal.
At a campaign event earlier this year, an audience member asked Moore for his opinion on when the last time America was "great." Moore responded: "I think it was great at the time when families were united—even though we had slavery—they cared for one another…Our families were strong, our country had a direction." The individual who asked the question was among the few African-Americans in attendance at the rally, according to the Los Angeles Times. In stating this, Moore seemingly implied he'd be able to overlook the enslavement of other human beings as long as families are "united," an interesting perspective from a man accused of repeatedly preying on young girls.
Moore's remarks were featured in an article from the Times in September, but resurfaced Thursday in a viral tweet from Eric Columbus, a former Obama administration official. "Can't make this up—Roy Moore said in September that the last time America was great was when we had slavery," Columbus tweeted.
Moore's comments at the rally bring to mind President Donald Trump's slogan, "Make America Great Again," which many have interpreted as a rallying cry to incite white nationalists. Trump has controversially endorsed Moore, despite widespread condemnation and the damning allegations the Senate candidate faces. Trump reportedly said "Go get ‘em, Roy!" during a recent phone call with the candidate.
A recent Big League-Gravis poll gave Moore's Democratic opponent, Doug Jones (who isn't accused of sexually assaulting teenage girls), a slight edge over the Republican. The poll of 1,276 likely voters showed Jones leading Moore 48 percent to 44 percent. The election is on December 12.
On December 4, Trump tweeted, "Putting Pelosi/Schumer Liberal Puppet Jones into office in Alabama would hurt our great Republican Agenda of low on taxes, tough on crime, strong on military and borders...& so much more. Look at your 401-k’s since Election. Highest Stock Market EVER! Jobs are roaring back!" Indeed, Trump apparently believes a man who was reportedly banned from an Alabama mall for harassing teenage girls would be "tough on crime" and is urging voters to support him.
Beyond his views on slavery and allegations of sexual misconduct, Moore also has referred to Native Americans as "reds and yellows," has questioned former President Barack Obama's place of birth (following Trump's example) and once suggested Muslims should not be allowed to serve in Congress. In spite of all this, Moore still seems to have a shot of becoming a United States senator.
LINK (https://www.yahoo.com/news/roy-moore-last-time-america-234233620.html)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_m_En_ARgU
Nickdfresh
12-08-2017, 06:26 AM
Hey, now he says that Vlad Putin is a good guy, LOLZ. Pedobear's meltdown continues! But hey, win or lose the Dems win...
'Merica represents a lot of bad things, like gay marriage. Everyone knows that marriage is between a man and a little girl!
https://i.imgur.com/zcSr5by.jpg
Terry
12-08-2017, 10:35 PM
Yeah, well, the election is in...what, 4 days?
And Moore is up by 2-3 percentage points in an average of a dozen or so polls, with other polls having Moore up by more than 5 percentage points...which is just outside the margin of error.
It will in no way be shocking if he wins, although it SHOULD be shocking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viorHD0zkLk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SBP0SiR6_0
AP has declared Doug Jones the winner. Time to give up the ghost, Pedobear!!
http://orig05.deviantart.net/69cc/f/2012/306/4/d/pedobear_the_ghost_by_darkradx-d5jry72.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OkLTLFmQIE
Nickdfresh
12-13-2017, 11:15 AM
And Pedoroy still hasn't conceded...
Seshmeister
12-13-2017, 11:48 AM
https://youtu.be/HWG0isUVB68
Wow if that footage of his wife doesn't ring alarm bells in you then you don't have cunt radar.
Kristy
12-13-2017, 12:28 PM
Wow if that footage of his wife doesn't ring alarm bells in you then you don't have cunt radar.
Oh, that's right. You're a sophomoric Euro-trash idiot who gets to redefine what is abusive towards women and what isn't. Keep up the good work asshole. Maybe you and your fellow bigot Bernie brat slave FORD can go on a skull bashing women with baseball bats campaign like rednecks do in Canada with baby harp seals. You are such the fucking hypocrite.
Kristy
12-13-2017, 01:22 PM
slave FORD and slave SESH in conversation:
https://youtu.be/Ccco4ASA1EI
You're the one with the anti-semitism issue, slave Kristy.
Oh, BTW.... Happy Hannukah!
http://shmaltzbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/HAN17_TEMPLATE-1.png
L'Chaim! :gulp:
Kristy
12-13-2017, 02:01 PM
Nice try, bigot Bernie brat.
Kristy
12-13-2017, 02:09 PM
Anyone else find it to be strange that slave SESH loves to cherry pick his battles? I mean, he denounces Roy Moore's pedophilia while at the same time promoting porn and violence against women on his very site. Then agian, look where he comes from, a country that hates women.
"According to BBC research, 5,500 sexual offences were reported to police as having taken place in UK schools over a three-year period to July 2015, including 600 rapes. And a recent women and equalities select committee (WESC) report highlighted widespread sexual harassment and abuse of girls at school."
A lot of this goes back to porn itself.
slave SESH is the liberal version Roy Moore.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/dec/12/are-we-ignoring-an-epidemic-of-sexual-violence-in-schools
https://s8.postimg.org/g5fhdibxh/Exploited.jpg
Soon to be exploited by slave SESH by THEDOCTOR on his site any day now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3lPkPIt4xk
Terry
12-13-2017, 07:32 PM
A referendum on Alabama?
I'm glad Moore lost.
However, to be clear, Moore publicly and loudly advocated PLENTY of extreme and intolerant religious/social viewpoints for many years...well before the molestation allegations surfaced. Had it not been for those molestation allegations, Moore probably would have won. And, even with those molestation allegations, the race went right down to the wire.
So, while in the end the slim majority of Alabama voters did what I'd consider to be "the right thing" overall that state shouldn't be patting itself on the back: did Moore only become intolerable and barely unelectable because of the sexual allegations...but everything else he said and stood for was ok?
Wow if that footage of his wife doesn't ring alarm bells in you then you don't have cunt radar.
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/ArtleS/2017/ArtleS20171213_low.jpg
jacksmar
12-13-2017, 08:40 PM
Charles ( wish i was Chuck Person) Barkley
Spell referendum, Charles.
Here's how the whole deal went for those too wrapped up in Frankkens arms.
Strange - National GOP Candidate Primary Vote apprx 33%
Brooks - State GOP Candidate Primary Vote apprx 20%
Moore - Independent Candidate Primary Vote apprs 39 %
Moore election runoff apprx 48ish%
The GOP voters had no interest in Moore...
Nickdfresh
12-13-2017, 09:10 PM
Hey Sesh, where did you hide the "porn and violence against women" thread? I need a good wank!
Kristy
12-14-2017, 12:58 PM
Yes, slave SESH please show us thread after thread that reeks white male privilege. Please show us how you dismiss male systemic sexual violence against women and children while continuing to have porn on your site because you don't experience it as a member of the elite oppressor class causing the harm while you and you fellow slave FORD ears are plugged up with liberal propaganda.
Go on then...
Seshmeister
12-14-2017, 10:17 PM
https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25299376_1541498339274507_4396869405673029093_n.jp g?oh=22581d19c2536e3867d67bbe03ec47f2&oe=5AB8C256
Seshmeister
12-14-2017, 10:29 PM
Yes, slave SESH please show us thread after thread that reeks white male privilege. Please show us how you dismiss male systemic sexual violence against women and children while continuing to have porn on your site because you don't experience it as a member of the elite oppressor class causing the harm while you and you fellow slave FORD ears are plugged up with liberal propaganda.
Go on then...
This is a free speech website we don't censor.
There are a couple of threads that feature female nudity not porn, I check them occasionally to make sure they are all well over age. Very tame by internet standards and they predate me being involved in this site.
Those forums are only accessible by members who sign up to being of age,
You don't need to visit this site if you find that offensive.
If you want me to ban you for continued trolling and defamation fine, I really don't give a shit at this point one way or the other.
All you are doing is giving ammo to the other side with this fake shit. A picture of a naked woman is not an act of sexual violence against children.
The fucking irony is that people like you are almost exactly like fucking ISIS. You are not liberal. In the same way Stalin = Hitler.
Grow up.
This is the last time I'm going to waste on this..
Seshmeister
12-14-2017, 10:36 PM
A referendum on Alabama?
I'm glad Moore lost.
However, to be clear, Moore publicly and loudly advocated PLENTY of extreme and intolerant religious/social viewpoints for many years...well before the molestation allegations surfaced. Had it not been for those molestation allegations, Moore probably would have won. And, even with those molestation allegations, the race went right down to the wire.
So, while in the end the slim majority of Alabama voters did what I'd consider to be "the right thing" overall that state shouldn't be patting itself on the back: did Moore only become intolerable and barely unelectable because of the sexual allegations...but everything else he said and stood for was ok?
It's like the guy that asked 'What would your party's candidate need to do for you not to vote for them?'.
Fucking ridiculous that over 48% of voters in the state voted for that twat.
A lot of it is down to voting systems, because the US and the UK were early to the democracy thing we have the shittiest systems and it's about time people manned up to that.
Terry
12-14-2017, 10:56 PM
It's like the guy that asked 'What would your party's candidate need to do for you not to vote for them?'.
Fucking ridiculous that over 48% of voters in the state voted for that twat.
A lot of it is down to voting systems, because the US and the UK were early to the democracy thing we have the shittiest systems and it's about time people manned up to that.
I mean, and that's it, exactly.
It took multiple sexual allegations, and even THEN Moore BARELY lost in a race that shouldn't have been a squeaker after all those women came forward combined with Moore's tepid initial responses to all of it. Shouldn't have even been within ten percentage points.
And that's where we are now, though. That's why I was kinda surprised Moore lost. America had no problem electing Trump, who BY HIS OWN ADMISSION is a molester, and Trump won Alabama by a wide margin, so at that point why NOT elect a guy who diddled a 14 year old girl when he was in his thirties?
Seshmeister
12-14-2017, 11:25 PM
I know it's an easy target but evangelicals are fundamentalists call them what they are.
Once you get into the world of iron age Abrahamic religions they are all pretty fucking nutty and all the same pretty much.
If your core belief is that you think that God fucked Mary when she was 12/14 to give birth to himself that is problematic in the modern world.
All these religions are incredibly misogynist.
Kristy
12-15-2017, 09:57 AM
This is a free speech website we don't censor.
There are a couple of threads that feature female nudity not porn, I check them occasionally to make sure they are all well over age. Very tame by internet standards and they predate me being involved in this site.
Those forums are only accessible by members who sign up to being of age,
You don't need to visit this site if you find that offensive.
If you want me to ban you for continued trolling and defamation fine, I really don't give a shit at this point one way or the other.
All you are doing is giving ammo to the other side with this fake shit. A picture of a naked woman is not an act of sexual violence against children.
The fucking irony is that people like you are almost exactly like fucking ISIS. You are not liberal. In the same way Stalin = Hitler.
Grow up.
This is the last time I'm going to waste on this..
You're so incredibly stupid, clueless and ignorant. You support violence against women. Peroid.
Nickdfresh
12-15-2017, 10:18 AM
You're so incredibly stupid, clueless and ignorant. You support violence against women. Peroid.
And so do you with your meaningless internet trolling using this as some sort of bullshit flame!
Kristy
12-15-2017, 06:46 PM
Ooooh, that it's Wiki Niki, you defend that patriarchy. Fucking idiot.
Seshmeister
12-15-2017, 08:52 PM
You're so incredibly stupid, clueless and ignorant. You support violence against women. Peroid.
A quick recap of the Kristy story so far.
Fucked by an Englishman
Magicians Assistant
Sex worker
Drop out from shitty college course
Troll at David Lee Roth Website
Talk about wasting your white privilege.... :D
http://replygif.net/i/775.gif
Nickdfresh
12-16-2017, 01:10 AM
Ooooh, that it's Wiki Niki, you defend that patriarchy. Fucking idiot.
You're really overcompensating with the pretentious faux-intellectual nonsense. Don't you have some shitty iPhone produced by Chinese slave-workers to buy? You dumb fucking consumerist fake bitch hypowit...
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