EVH News

[So this is love]

I read this earlier this week... Any more details?

https://montrealgazette.com/entertainment/celebrity/ailing-eddie-van-halen-gets-visits-from-ex-wife-valerie-bertinelli-report/wcm/583b4997-3b85-40de-b690-7a67653d790d

[DavidLeeNatra]

I read this earlier this week... Any more details?

https://montrealgazette.com/entertainment/celebrity/ailing-eddie-van-halen-gets-visits-from-ex-wife-valerie-bertinelli-report/wcm/583b4997-3b85-40de-b690-7a67653d790dBullshit judging from the Dave quoting

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[David'sPeeBroth]

I just hope we get to hear the 17 hours worth of studio demo outtakes of "How Many Say I" before Ed goes to that great mullet graveyard in the sky.

[ZahZoo]

From the article...


Though former front man David Lee Roth recently claimed in a radio interview that Van Halen was near death – possibly battling a return of the tongue cancer that almost killed him in 2000 — he was recently spotted at a Hollywood bar. He had very short hair and wore sunglasses, and was not drinking at the bar.

Fake news™...

[So this is love]

How about this? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7568003/Eddie-Van-Halen-suffering-throat-cancer-contracted-sucking-metal-guitar-pick.html

[So this is love]

How about this? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7568003/Eddie-Van-Halen-suffering-throat-cancer-contracted-sucking-metal-guitar-pick.html

Metal guitar picks...lol...he meant too many pussies...

[twonabomber]

TMZ, too

https://www.tmz.com/2019/10/13/eddie-van-halen-traveling-germany-cancer-treatment/



Eddie Van Halen has been flying between the United States and Germany to get treatment for throat cancer ... and we've learned he's been doing it very quietly for years.

As for how Eddie developed the cancer ... we're told he believes it's from a metal guitar pick he used more than 20 years ago. Seems Eddie would cradle the pick in his mouth, and he's been told that could well have been the source of the cancer, despite the fact he was a heavy smoker. Back in 2000, shortly after he was diagnosed, doctors removed around 1/3 of his tongue.

Eddie was diagnosed nearly 20 years ago. Sources with direct knowledge tell us ... over the years there were times some of the cancer cells migrated down to his throat, and doctors would scrape them out.

Our sources say ... Eddie has flown to Germany for 5 years to get radiation treatment, and for the most part it's worked to keep the disease in check.

As for his current condition ... there are lots of rumors, but people who know him say he's seems to be doing okay -- at least on the surface.

[So this is love]

TMZ, too

https://www.tmz.com/2019/10/13/eddie-van-halen-traveling-germany-cancer-treatment/



Eddie Van Halen has been flying between the United States and Germany to get treatment for throat cancer ... and we've learned he's been doing it very quietly for years.

As for how Eddie developed the cancer ... we're told he believes it's from a metal guitar pick he used more than 20 years ago. Seems Eddie would cradle the pick in his mouth, and he's been told that could well have been the source of the cancer, despite the fact he was a heavy smoker. Back in 2000, shortly after he was diagnosed, doctors removed around 1/3 of his tongue.

Eddie was diagnosed nearly 20 years ago. Sources with direct knowledge tell us ... over the years there were times some of the cancer cells migrated down to his throat, and doctors would scrape them out.

Our sources say ... Eddie has flown to Germany for 5 years to get radiation treatment, and for the most part it's worked to keep the disease in check.

As for his current condition ... there are lots of rumors, but people who know him say he's seems to be doing okay -- at least on the surface.

I wish Edward well and a full recovery if all of this is true...but the metal guitar pick thing reminded me of his humor ala I am boiling my strings... or the one instance where he went to his manager (before marrying Valerie) asking if it was possible to get a woman pregnant from a blowjob (from VH rising).

[Seshmeister]

Yeah I hope he was joking but I doubt it. :)

[ZahZoo]

I'm skeptical... the metal guitar pick crap came from 2002. I'm sure smoking and heavy drinking had nothing to do with it...

The trips to Germany for radiation treatment originally surfaced in 2012 and he claimed they cleaned that up too.

Cancer is a beast... plus it's Edward's personal business. I'll remain optimistic he's just got typical age related issues that make not touring/performing a common sense choice and not some dire ailment taking him out at this phase in life. Plus... all this talk of EVH... Alex is the older brother...

[Terry]

I'm skeptical... the metal guitar pick crap came from 2002. I'm sure smoking and heavy drinking had nothing to do with it...

The trips to Germany for radiation treatment originally surfaced in 2012 and he claimed they cleaned that up too.

Cancer is a beast... plus it's Edward's personal business. I'll remain optimistic he's just got typical age related issues that make not touring/performing a common sense choice and not some dire ailment taking him out at this phase in life. Plus... all this talk of EVH... Alex is the older brother...

Hadn't heard about the trips to Germany for radiation treatment prior to the last couple of days, although I had assumed all along Ed was getting treated for cancer somewhere, even if he has been in remission...I assume even those in remission are still on some sort of treatment.

I couldn't agree more that all of this is Edward's personal business as to if he wants to address it publicly, or not, or whatever.

To be sure, Van Halen's habit over the last 20 years of not saying much of anything was at times irksome as a fan...but more and more I actually kinda grew to appreciate the band NOT saying anything unless they were DOING something. Because, honestly, in terms of the Van Halens, what is there really to SAY anymore? I've always been far more interested in what Ed was playing than anything he was ever saying, even back in the day. Don't really have much interest in anything Wolfgang has to say...not a slam against the kid, but I just have no interest. Pretty much the same goes for Alex.

If Van Halen isn't playing music, little to nothing of anything they could say is of real interest to me at this point. Like, I remember when ADKOT came out and I bought the 2 disc collection with the interview disc where Dave was interviewing Ed and Al, and by and large Ed and Al were boring as fuck to listen to...to the point where I think I didn't even make it to the end of the interviews. Which is as it should be, because Ed is a guitar player and Al is a drummer.

[Terry]

Like, did we really need lengthy, periodic commentary from Ed, Al or Wolfie re: the band not doing anything post-2015? Did anybody need to have any of those guys deliver a lengthy discourse or a Van Halen State Of The Band to announce that nothing new was going to be happening for the upcoming year?

[Seshmeister]

It shows the complete fucking shitty nature of these publications that the subheading on TMZ is 'It All Started With Metal Guitar Pick'

I seriously doubt there are any real treatments available for throat cancer in Germany that you can't get in the US which does make you worry he is not treatable and falling for some quack or desperate shit although the traditional place for fleecing cancer patients is Mexico not Germany. He does fit the gullible bill for that kind of scam - electromagnetic woo in the studio gave him cancer not smoking like fuck at all times forever with the added booze multiplier?

That said there is enough shit in the article and there only is one article that the others are all copying, that maybe it's nonsense.

[twonabomber]

And the way TMZ (I guess it's not really employees, just hacks with cameras hanging around) stalks LAX, how has no one seen Ed there yet? He can't be that unrecognizable.

The metal pick thing reminds me of all the other shit..."I don't use a tuner, I tune the guitar to itself!"

[Nickdfresh]

I just hope we get to hear the 17 hours worth of studio demo outtakes of "How Many Say I" before Ed goes to that great mullet graveyard in the sky.

Okay that's funny...

[Nickdfresh]

TMZ, too

https://www.tmz.com/2019/10/13/eddie-van-halen-traveling-germany-cancer-treatment/



Eddie Van Halen has been flying between the United States and Germany to get treatment for throat cancer ... and we've learned he's been doing it very quietly for years.

As for how Eddie developed the cancer ... we're told he believes it's from a metal guitar pick he used more than 20 years ago. ....

.

Yeah, I'm sure it has nothing to do the the massive amounts of alcohol, cocaine, and pot he's imbibed over the years...

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Dave sounded bitter when mentioning Ed and the postponement of the tour. Was he aware of his health condition or what...

[twonabomber]

Posted on a FB group. pic of EVH "out and about" but no date

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/72474912_10212292113852638_1350327929631932416_n.j pg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_oc=AQlBdeXWeaRLwCJIoNoifAYWCJSHNjjoggjODcOnUpC Psyq76zUVK6vlPnAi1GdGp74&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=7bbc37dbd3c036fbc52b2c8041e10bee&oe=5E180BF3

and a tweet from his ex brother in law

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/72837988_10212292114132645_789221530792886272_n.jp g?_nc_cat=103&_nc_oc=AQmtDJqKVDSIWS3WInULU_1ZlrouNCbLHyVYheWCbA6 kQpnC7hkftONUVcHovlC7h6Q&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=739051d7de519a8ee546d5d7f8f266b0&oe=5E26E6C0

[twonabomber]

Guitar World rehashes the story

https://www.guitarworld.com/news/eddie-van-halen-reportedly-undergoing-throat-cancer-treatment?fbclid=IwAR1lPnFA2wX5VjQBc_-0gVyGbTAyqXCl59RW_b2ECT7Q5CsAgZL-kznQzYU

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Posted on a FB group. pic of EVH "out and about" but no date
https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/72474912_10212292113852638_1350327929631932416_n.j pg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_oc=AQlBdeXWeaRLwCJIoNoifAYWCJSHNjjoggjODcOnUpC Psyq76zUVK6vlPnAi1GdGp74&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=7bbc37dbd3c036fbc52b2c8041e10bee&oe=5E180BF3

Ouch! Is it really Ed? Because if it is, then his state is very serious. You can't even recognize him.

[private parts]

Ouch! Is it really Ed? Because if it is, then his state is very serious. You can't even recognize him.

He actually looks "healthy", but the swollen face means he's probably on steroids for some reason. Maybe serious, or not.

[Terry]

He actually looks "healthy", but the swollen face means he's probably on steroids for some reason. Maybe serious, or not.

Could be steroids...I dunno, does the face swell from radiation treatment, or chemo?

[Seshmeister]

So much buzz about this on the internet news over the last couple of days.

It makes part of me think no wonder the Van Halens try to always keep things private because of all of this shit which if you take a step back is basically a bunch of people trying to monetize your cancer v. make a statement and take away the gossip.

It's complicated but he's married to a publicist yet it seems like they often choose the worst of both worlds.

[Terry]

And the way TMZ (I guess it's not really employees, just hacks with cameras hanging around) stalks LAX, how has no one seen Ed there yet? He can't be that unrecognizable.

The metal pick thing reminds me of all the other shit..."I don't use a tuner, I tune the guitar to itself!"

Maybe it's long-delayed after-effects of all those years he used to "boil" his guitar strings, or dip his PAF double-coil pickups in hot surfboard wax...

[Vinnie Velvet]

So much buzz about this on the internet news over the last couple of days.

It makes part of me think no wonder the Van Halens try to always keep things private because of all of this shit which if you take a step back is basically a bunch of people trying to monetize your cancer v. make a statement and take away the gossip.

It's complicated but he's married to a publicist yet it seems like they often choose the worst of both worlds.

She's too busy dancing with her Latin teacher.

[private parts]

Could be steroids...I dunno, does the face swell from radiation treatment, or chemo?

My wife, the nurse, says yes sometimes.

[Terry]

My wife, the nurse, says yes sometimes.

That's the 1st thing I thought of when I looked at the picture.

[Terry]

So much buzz about this on the internet news over the last couple of days.

It makes part of me think no wonder the Van Halens try to always keep things private because of all of this shit which if you take a step back is basically a bunch of people trying to monetize your cancer v. make a statement and take away the gossip.

It's complicated but he's married to a publicist yet it seems like they often choose the worst of both worlds.

Frankly, it's kind of refreshing to NOT have a celebrity who feels compelled to constantly update the world on their activites.

[Nitro Express]

So much buzz about this on the internet news over the last couple of days.

It makes part of me think no wonder the Van Halens try to always keep things private because of all of this shit which if you take a step back is basically a bunch of people trying to monetize your cancer v. make a statement and take away the gossip.

It's complicated but he's married to a publicist yet it seems like they often choose the worst of both worlds.

It’s because they don’t give a damn for whatever reasons. Making albums and going on tour doesn’t seem to be a high priority. VH seems to still sell tickets when they go out even after years of having terrible public relations. EVH Gear is still in business bringing new products out.

Stuff seems to sell whether Eddie is in the window waiving or not.

[Nitro Express]

Frankly, it's kind of refreshing to NOT have a celebrity who feels compelled to constantly update the world on their activites.

Right. Plus every time I bought a ticket to a VH show Ed showed up and played well. What more do you want? Shit. Ed could be posting videos pimping EVH shit and bragging about how great it is. Naw. Let Sam do that. We don’t need another carnival barker on the internet.

[Terry]

Right. Plus every time I bought a ticket to a VH show Ed showed up and played well. What more do you want? Shit. Ed could be posting videos pimping EVH shit and bragging about how great it is. Naw. Let Sam do that. We don’t need another carnival barker on the internet.

Thinking back, through most of the period when CVH was active, I don't really recall even hearing Edward talk during those years. Doubtless there are archival interviews of him in the late 1970s/early 1980s when he talked, but I don't have any memory of seeing/hearing any of that stuff at the time.

I read as many print interviews of Ed's as I could back then, but virtually all of it was from Guitar Player magazine, or Guitar For The Practicing Musician or Guitar World.

I think I may have read one interview each from Mike Anthony and Alex Van Halen, and those were from one of the guitar mags and Modern Drummer. I don't recall having seen an interview where I heard either of those guys talk during the bulk of the CVH years, though doubtless like Ed both of them were surely interviewed at some point on camera talking during the CVH years.

The first time I really remember hearing Ed, Alex and Mike talk was on a MTV Van Halen special after Hagar joined, where they were each individually interviewed.

[Terry]

Right. Plus every time I bought a ticket to a VH show Ed showed up and played well. What more do you want? Shit. Ed could be posting videos pimping EVH shit and bragging about how great it is. Naw. Let Sam do that. We don’t need another carnival barker on the internet.

I have an old bootleg dvd around somewhere that has a bunch of CVH promo appearances - many of them overseas in Japan or Europe or South America - where CVH were miming performing to studio tracks for whatever single they were pushing, and I'm sure the hosts of those shows must have asked all of the band some questions on some of those clips...but I didn't see any of those clips back when CVH was active.

I mean, Van Halen didn't even get put into heavy rotation on MTV until the 1984 promo videos came out, and the few CVH MTV specials I saw back then were mostly Roth-centric: Roth WAS the voice of the band back then, and certainly the main interview subject back in the CVH days.

[Terry]

Right. Plus every time I bought a ticket to a VH show Ed showed up and played well. What more do you want? Shit. Ed could be posting videos pimping EVH shit and bragging about how great it is. Naw. Let Sam do that. We don’t need another carnival barker on the internet.

And, overall, the interviews I have read of Ed's in the various guitar mags (mostly Guitar World for the last 30 years)...like, when Ed isn't specifically talking about whatever gear he is selling or the music he is making...the guy really doesn't have much to say of interest outside of that stuff. I mean, I suppose he had some interesting stuff to say when I enjoyed reading the mudslinging between Ed and Dave, and later Ed and Sam - when I was enjoying the whole soap opera - but once I no longer gave a shit about the soap opera (plus, I have plenty of adequate non-EVH guitar gear, so I don't have any interest in whatever EVH gear Ed is pushing) Ed's non-music oriented comments weren't things I much cared to hear about.

Things like his nonsensical reasons for chucking Anthony out of the band, or his bizarre claims that he had to show Anthony everything he played, or that Ed's backing vocals were more important than Anthony's, or that he got cancer from chewing on a metal guitar pick...all the blather he has uttered post-2000 during the years he went off his nut on a Smoking Loon/crystal meth binge and beyond...yeesh.

[Nitro Express]

Ed didn’t talk much when Dave was in the band. He never talked on stage and he never did interviews other than the guitar magazine ones. I think Ed might have gotten some bogus coke laced with meth. He went off the wagon big time and drinkers love coke. Whatever it was it was more than just booze. I was expecting to hear that Ed was dead in those days. He was riding the fast crazy train to the graveyard and looked like a corpse to boot.

[Vinnie Velvet]

In light of this recent, re-hashed to make new, Eddie news....I do find it interesting Dave hasn't done a Roth show clip and hasn't done any radio interviews plugging his Vegas gigs.

[Vinnie Velvet]

Ed didn’t talk much when Dave was in the band. He never talked on stage and he never did interviews other than the guitar magazine ones. I think Ed might have gotten some bogus coke laced with meth. He went off the wagon big time and drinkers love coke. Whatever it was it was more than just booze. I was expecting to hear that Ed was dead in those days. He was riding the fast crazy train to the graveyard and looked like a corpse to boot.

Ah yes, Eddie's hobo era 2003-2005.

[silverfish]

... he got cancer from chewing on a metal guitar pick...

Eddie Van Halen thinks he developed cancer from sucking on
metal guitar picks, but a doctor says this probably isn't true

https://www.insider.com/eddie-van-halen-probably-didnt-get-cancer-from-guitar-pick-2019-10

[Terry]

Ed didn’t talk much when Dave was in the band. He never talked on stage and he never did interviews other than the guitar magazine ones. I think Ed might have gotten some bogus coke laced with meth. He went off the wagon big time and drinkers love coke. Whatever it was it was more than just booze. I was expecting to hear that Ed was dead in those days. He was riding the fast crazy train to the graveyard and looked like a corpse to boot.

The funny thing was, the more Ed started to talk after Dave left in terms of giving interviews, the less I wanted to hear from him.

Even in the guitar mag interviews as the 1990s dawned, he'd piss and moan about Nirvana, other guitarists who had the temerity to say that Ace Frehley (and not Ed) inspired them to pick up the guitar, what an asshole Dave was, what an asshole Sammy was...

That's why, for me, it's preferable if Ed doesn't speak, because it reminds me of when I liked him best and what I liked him for: that high-energy, innovative rock guitar playing, the sound of which always elicited positive emotions from me. When Ed talks, it's actually a buzzkill.

[Terry]

Ed didn’t talk much when Dave was in the band. He never talked on stage and he never did interviews other than the guitar magazine ones. I think Ed might have gotten some bogus coke laced with meth. He went off the wagon big time and drinkers love coke. Whatever it was it was more than just booze. I was expecting to hear that Ed was dead in those days. He was riding the fast crazy train to the graveyard and looked like a corpse to boot.

Shit, that whole 2003-2006 period, I was half-expecting the guy was gonna drop dead any moment.

I remember watching clips of the NAMM show appearance he made in late 2006, just before it was confirmed that Roth was working with the band again, and Ed turned in such a disjointed appearance...at points barely able to play close to what had been considered standard or par/normal for him.

He started off playing pretty well on the 2007 leg of the reunion tour, but he appeared to have relapsed early into the 2008 leg: he was having trouble playing the set 5 months into the tour at a point where that far into the tour, if anything, Ed should have been improving. I seem to recall post-tour he claimed he was having arthritis-related issues with his hands and underwent treatment for it, but at the 2008 Tampa gig he just plain looked drunk: his solo spot late into the show was just embarrassing, and the majority of the arena was silent watching him trying to conjure up the speed and brilliance which used to come to him so easily...and failing.

Fortunately, he got his shit together in a big way by the time 2012 rolled around: the Tampa gig I saw from the ADKOT tour was spectacular. In 2008, Roth carried the show. In 2012, Ed carried it.

[Nitro Express]

Eddie Van Halen thinks he developed cancer from sucking on
metal guitar picks, but a doctor says this probably isn't true

https://www.insider.com/eddie-van-halen-probably-didnt-get-cancer-from-guitar-pick-2019-10

Michael Douglas said he got oral cancer from eating pussy. I’m not kidding.

[Nitro Express]

https://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/news/20130603/michael-douglas-blames-his-throat-cancer-on-oral-sex

Stay away from the pussy and metal guitar picks!

[twonabomber]

Maybe Catherine Zeta-Jones puts metal guitar picks in her pussy?

[Nitro Express]

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::smiley-lol:

[ZahZoo]

Thinking back, through most of the period when CVH was active, I don't really recall even hearing Edward talk during those years. Doubtless there are archival interviews of him in the late 1970s/early 1980s when he talked, but I don't have any memory of seeing/hearing any of that stuff at the time.

I read as many print interviews of Ed's as I could back then, but virtually all of it was from Guitar Player magazine, or Guitar For The Practicing Musician or Guitar World.

I think I may have read one interview each from Mike Anthony and Alex Van Halen, and those were from one of the guitar mags and Modern Drummer. I don't recall having seen an interview where I heard either of those guys talk during the bulk of the CVH years, though doubtless like Ed both of them were surely interviewed at some point on camera talking during the CVH years.

The first time I really remember hearing Ed, Alex and Mike talk was on a MTV Van Halen special after Hagar joined, where they were each individually interviewed.

Back during CVH days... a Long time ago... in a galaxy far, far away... The only place you could hear Ed, Alex, Mike or Dave was predominately on the radio. That would be your local radio station if you lived in an area with a VH tour stop and the guys were willing to do a radio spot. You'd get a few minutes of nonsense and no in-depth content beyond boiling strings, trashing hotel rooms, and other sorted shenanigans.

Not a lot was shared nationally via radio unless it was some syndicated program like Red Beard or Dr Dimento's Flower Power Hour or crap like that...

MTV launched in 81... but I don't recall any VH interviews until the 96 Roth reunion meltdown... Ed first appeared on Letterman in 1984, back when Shaffer still had hair... but didn't do an interview...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmtzqa5X1FQ

[twonabomber]

Via VHND FB page: EVH seen at a McLaren dealership

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/72747531_2479166368797758_5899527400877719552_n.jp g?_nc_cat=104&_nc_oc=AQnUXmctl402RV5I_TB28zsdQIMeTKGjwC7MaqUH2mi 7oLGIb7QzIut6if-u19kcAok&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=f7cde48f5b0d76af4a936c35336bf8d5&oe=5E3047CA

"I've had a bad week, so please indulge me in this gushing post.
I love my job. I love the cars, I love my co-workers and I love the clients.
Admittedly, I've had more than my share of cool things that I've done in my life.
Co-worker: "Sue, today you got to make out with a rockstar." 😅 Yes... I...did! 🤯
Today will forever be the day I kissed...
Eddie Van Halen!!! 💋
My mom wouldn't let me go see them when I was 14, so it only took 35 years for the universe to right that wrong.
Absolutely the sweetest guy--with a twinkle in his eye.❤️ I told him that today he made me the coolest kid in high school. 🤣. Never in my... wildest... dreams.
Eddie, you have no idea how much you made my day. Thank you for just being you. 💕

From Susan Dion's Instagram, here: https://bit.ly/2N0WDHP

[ZahZoo]

Which hot rod did he buy?

Looking pretty much healthy and normal compared to the other crap on the net...

[Romeo Delight]

Back during CVH days... a Long time ago... in a galaxy far, far away... The only place you could hear Ed, Alex, Mike or Dave was predominately on the radio. That would be your local radio station if you lived in an area with a VH tour stop and the guys were willing to do a radio spot. You'd get a few minutes of nonsense and no in-depth content beyond boiling strings, trashing hotel rooms, and other sorted shenanigans.

Not a lot was shared nationally via radio unless it was some syndicated program like Red Beard or Dr Dimento's Flower Power Hour or crap like that...

MTV launched in 81... but I don't recall any VH interviews until the 96 Roth reunion meltdown... Ed first appeared on Letterman in 1984, back when Shaffer still had hair... but didn't do an interview...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmtzqa5X1FQ

A little earlier than this Ed was on Letterman when they were filming in LA for a week...Didn;t do a song like that but they had extended songs after commercials ended

[Seshmeister]

Which hot rod did he buy?

Looking pretty much healthy and normal compared to the other crap on the net...

Is there a point when even a rock star is too old to be driving one of those?

https://www.ogaracoach.com/new-mclaren


https://cdn-ds.com/stock/2019-McLaren-720S-Coupe-by-MSO--Beverly-Hills-CA/seo/VAMP16966-SBM14DCA8KW003126/sz_189411/w_1500/h_960/972a97f25be7748993df40b81a7c99d1.jpg

[Nitro Express]

Which hot rod did he buy?

Looking pretty much healthy and normal compared to the other crap on the net...

Maybe he was just checking the new models out. Now we know why VH isn’t going on tour. They don’t need the money.

[Nitro Express]

Is there a point when even a rock star is too old to be driving one of those?

https://www.ogaracoach.com/new-mclaren


https://cdn-ds.com/stock/2019-McLaren-720S-Coupe-by-MSO--Beverly-Hills-CA/seo/VAMP16966-SBM14DCA8KW003126/sz_189411/w_1500/h_960/972a97f25be7748993df40b81a7c99d1.jpg

No. Ed can afford the track time to have some fun with it.

[twonabomber]

Maybe he was just checking the new models out. Now we know why VH isn’t going on tour. They don’t need the money.

We should all get in to shoe sales...

[DavidLeeNatra]

Shit, that whole 2003-2006 period, I was half-expecting the guy was gonna drop dead any moment.

I remember watching clips of the NAMM show appearance he made in late 2006, just before it was confirmed that Roth was working with the band again, and Ed turned in such a disjointed appearance...at points barely able to play close to what had been considered standard or par/normal for him.

He started off playing pretty well on the 2007 leg of the reunion tour, but he appeared to have relapsed early into the 2008 leg: he was having trouble playing the set 5 months into the tour at a point where that far into the tour, if anything, Ed should have been improving. I seem to recall post-tour he claimed he was having arthritis-related issues with his hands and underwent treatment for it, but at the 2008 Tampa gig he just plain looked drunk: his solo spot late into the show was just embarrassing, and the majority of the arena was silent watching him trying to conjure up the speed and brilliance which used to come to him so easily...and failing.

Fortunately, he got his shit together in a big way by the time 2012 rolled around: the Tampa gig I saw from the ADKOT tour was spectacular. In 2008, Roth carried the show. In 2012, Ed carried it.There was a show when Ed was so hammered that in the end Wolfgang threw his bass on the floor in an outburst of anger. Can't remember which one.

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[Terry]

I can't remember if it was the 2008 Tampa show I saw or another show on the tour I watched on a dvd boot or youtube, but at the conclusion of Jump Ed was dragging his monitors across the stage in disgust after Roth's oversized inflatable microphone knocked over Ed's mic stand.

One thing I do remember from the Tampa show was they were playing Little Guitars...for about the first 5 or 6 songs, Ed was playing...decent. Not great, but decent. I can't recall whereabouts in the set Little Guitars was, but Ed was fumbling with the main fingerpicked chorded riff of the tune throughout the tune. At the end of the song, where Ed plays that fingerpicked chorded riff by himself and the song abruptly stops, the fumbling was even more noticeable because the rest of the band weren't playing along. And there's Ed, fumblefingering the riff, while Roth slowly walks over to Ed and stands right in front of him. Ed has this goofy grin on his face as he's fucking it up, and when he stopped playing the riff to end the song, [Ed] lightly rested his head on Roth's shoulder and Dave turned to the audience with what I'd best describe as a mild smirk, almost as if Dave was saying to the audience "yes, I know Ed didn't play the tune correctly."

It was a weird moment. From there through the rest of the show, Ed was very erratic. One moment he'd be playing the tunes accurately, the next he'd be fumbling around on the fretboard - often doing both within the same tune, mind you - almost as if he hadn't practiced the tunes enough. Which, as I said, was...strange, because by that point in the tour the band had probably played...I dunno, at least 30 to 40 gigs. The setlist didn't vary THAT much from one show to the next. The other tune I remember him having big problems with was the beginning of the Ice Cream Man solo, where his picking hand and fretting hand weren't coordinated. All of this blown up and laid bare to see on the massive video projection screen behind the band, so it wasn't like any of this wasn't clearly visible and it was all clearly audible.

I felt embarrassed for Ed. Even more so because Dave and Al were nailing their parts (I couldn't really hear the bass well, so I can't say how well Wolfgang played, but I'd be willing to wager the backing vocals were at least partially piped in).

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[Never was]

There was a show when Ed was so hammered that in the end Wolfgang threw his bass on the floor in an outburst of anger. Can't remember which one.

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Lauderdale show, tour stopped the next day

[Terry]

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That was pretty funny!

Truth be told, the way Ed has looked in general for the last several years, I tend to doubt I'd recognize him if I saw him on the street: would just think it was some random guy.

[Seshmeister]

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I was surprised that Ed didn't have a better seat...

[Seshmeister]

Truth be told, the way Ed has looked in general for the last several years, I tend to doubt I'd recognize him if I saw him on the street: would just think it was some random guy.

Context is important in recognition - at a gig in LA standing beside Wolfgang I think you would recognize him. :)

[Vinnie Velvet]

Context is important in recognition - at a gig in LA standing beside Wolfgang I think you would recognize him. :)

Truthfully, for a regular person, Ed looks ok.
But does look retired.

As "Eddie Van Halen" though he looks like shit.

Sagging old man titties for fuck sakes. Dude is NOT planning to tour or play any shows anytime soon.

I'm glad he isn't out there dragging his saggin old ass out on stage. Heck, even bass player looks better than Ed.

[Baby's On Fire]

Truthfully, for a regular person, Ed looks ok.
But does look retired.

As "Eddie Van Halen" though he looks like shit.

Sagging old man titties for fuck sakes. Dude is NOT planning to tour or play any shows anytime soon.

I'm glad he isn't out there dragging his saggin old ass out on stage. Heck, even bass player looks better than Ed.



Eddie does not look good at all. He doesn't look any worse than any other chain-smoking, life-long alcoholics. But he does not look healthy in any context.

64 is not old. Not even close. He looks rough.

Dave looks rough in terms of wear and tear on the face, and some of that is likely due to being outdoors all his life. But he is in better shape than the rest of them put together.

EVH probably can barely climb a flight of stairs. DLR still climbs in the Himalayan mountains. Only well conditioned people can even try that.

Bass Player looks better than all the other 3 put together as far as his face reflects his age, because he didn't trash the fuck out of himself for 40 + years. But I doubt he can climb more than a few flights of stairs.

You can look good and not be fit. You can be very fit but look old on the outside. You can be both. You can be neither.

In the case of EVH, he looks rough outside and is obviously rough inside. You don't trash the fuck out of yourself for 40 years or more and be healthy suddenly.

I cant stand people saying "he looks healthy". He does not look healthy and he is not healthy. That doesn't mean hes gonna drop dead, but he is not a heathy person.

[Terry]

Context is important in recognition - at a gig in LA standing beside Wolfgang I think you would recognize him. :)

Within that context, possibly, but even then only because I'm probably more than an average fan in terms of - from what I'd guess - the majority of people who have been attending Van Halen concerts over the last ten years are, where even just via this site I've seen more recent photos of Ed and Wolfgang than most of said majority: I'd tend to doubt most of those people if they saw Wolfgang by himself in line at a Starbucks would even give him a second glance in terms of recognition.

And even with Eddie, in terms of memory, even though most know he doesn't look that way anymore Eddie is likely forever remembered with the long, black rock star hair and that youthful grin. What Eddie looks like now (hell, even what Eddie has looked like going back as far as 1996) doesn't jibe with what my memory immediately conjures up, which is something more along the lines of 1978 through 1993, if that makes any sense.

[Terry]

Eddie does not look good at all. He doesn't look any worse than any other chain-smoking, life-long alcoholics. But he does not look healthy in any context.

64 is not old. Not even close. He looks rough.

Dave looks rough in terms of wear and tear on the face, and some of that is likely due to being outdoors all his life. But he is in better shape than the rest of them put together.

EVH probably can barely climb a flight of stairs. DLR still climbs in the Himalayan mountains. Only well conditioned people can even try that.

Bass Player looks better than all the other 3 put together as far as his face reflects his age, because he didn't trash the fuck out of himself for 40 + years. But I doubt he can climb more than a few flights of stairs.

You can look good and not be fit. You can be very fit but look old on the outside. You can be both. You can be neither.

In the case of EVH, he looks rough outside and is obviously rough inside. You don't trash the fuck out of yourself for 40 years or more and be healthy suddenly.

I cant stand people saying "he looks healthy". He does not look healthy and he is not healthy. That doesn't mean hes gonna drop dead, but he is not a heathy person.

He looks about what I'd expect from a 64 year old guy with a history of chain smoking, drink and whatever other substances he has imbibed. Truth be told, there's plenty of 64 year old dudes who look the same or worse having never abused alcohol or smoked.

I mean, I remember the interview Ed and Al gave in the wake of the 1996 VMA deal, and I recall thinking at the time Ed didn't look particularly well then, either. Nor was he looking well during the VHIII years, nor was he looking good in the photos of him playing golf in 2001. Looked pretty fucked up on the 2004 tour, and was looking dreadful all the way through mid-2007. It appeared he got cleaned up prior to the 2007 tour (got his chompers cleaned, got a haircut, got a tan), but even at the press conference announcing the 2007 tour he looked thin and unsteady on his feet.

He looked a bit off in the Tattoo promo video and his face looked slightly bloated on the 2012 tour (sort of moon-faced). By the time 2016 rolled around, Ed just plain looked grizzled.

He is a grizzled old dude.

Roth looks fit. To be sure, Roth also looks every bit of his age in terms of the lines on his face, but Roth looks and acts fit. Far fitter than I'm going to look in 15 years if I live that long.

[private parts]

Ed (or Wolf) obviously trying to tell us something.

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[Vinnie Velvet]

Ed (or Wolf) obviously trying to tell us something.

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Like what??

I don't see anything other than a family photo.

[So this is love]

Like what??

I don't see anything other than a family photo.

Ok I`ll bite, mom and pop are back together and Dave is out of the band again... lol!

[twonabomber]

Ed (or Wolf) obviously trying to tell us something.

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Val's off the Jenny Craig?

[DavidLeeNatra]

And no Dave podcasts anymore. Isn't it great to be a =VH= fan?

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[Terry]

And no Dave podcasts anymore. Isn't it great to be a =VH= fan?

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I really can't even say I'm what would be defined as a current fan of Van Halen...because on balance the last 22 years have had more downs than ups for me.

While I still hold what the band did up to and including 1984 in very high esteem or regard:

a) I didn't have any particular use for the vast bulk of the Van Hagar material, save for perhaps a 1/2 dozen Sam Halen tracks on a purely instrumental level

b) I didn't have any particular use for the Van Halen III material: a few ideas scattered throughout the album that perhaps would have benefitted with a strong producer suggesting the ideas be worked on some more, along with not giving Ed control over how the album was engineered and mixed

c) I don't have any use for the EVH line of guitar gear

d) I didn't have any use for the new tracks of BOBW

e) I don't really have an interest in what Ed is up to when he isn't playing guitar


So, basically since 1995 I have enjoyed:

1) the two Roth BOV1 tracks

2) the ADKOT album

3) hearing the band play the CVH material on the last three tours...more or less (a bit less with regard to Dave's vocals)


It'd be hard to imagine my not having an interest if Roth were to record or perform with the band, but having an interest isn't to be confused with particularly hoping that they do, or feeling disappointed if they never do again.

[Terry]

And no Dave podcasts anymore. Isn't it great to be a =VH= fan?

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And I'm not...really sure if Dave has much left to bring to the table for me anymore, either...

I mean, I can't say as Roth hiring a new bunch of musicians and doing a House of Blues residency where he is doing CVH material...it all seems...it's not even more of the same in terms of what Roth has been doing the last 12 years, because the difference is now Roth isn't even performing the tunes with the Van Halens.

My reaction would doubtless be less "meh" if Dave were doing this with, say, the EEAS band. Or even if Dave had got Luzier back into the fold, maybe along with John 5, or Brian...and Roth was willing to give some of his lesser known deep cut solo material a live airing along with the predictable CVH stuff. As is, this just looks a bit too safe and predictable for me to get enthused...certainly not enthused enough to trek to Vegas to see it although were Roth playing somewhere closer to home I could imagine going for a few drinks and a few chuckles.

Like, what Roth was trying to do in Vegas in 1995 was sort of reinvent himself and redress his image. From all appearances, THIS Vegas stint smacks of CVH nostalgia cabaret, minus the attraction of Roth doing it with the Van Halens.

I suppose none of it really matters, but...it's just odd to think of Van Halen and Roth in terms of neither of them really mattering. Mostly because those guys to me represented the pinnacle of rock back in the early 1980s when rock really mattered to me the most. I suppose I should just lower the expectations I have from them with age (lord knows both Roth AND the Van Halens have given me plenty of reasons post-1985 TO lower my expectations), but, then again, why the fuck should I settle for less?

I guess my problem is that when I hear the 6 pack, the stuff still moves me as much as it ever did, whereas a lot of what Roth and the Van Halens have done in the last twenty five years hasn't. I guess my problem is I liked the band and the music TOO much back in the CVH days, to the point where whatever Roth and the Van Halens have done post-1985 has (by and large) fallen short...and I'm just still not willing to shrug my shoulders and accept a lesser result from any of those guys without criticism or complaint.

In particular, I think Ed squandered his talents more and more with each passing year after Dave left in 1985, and definitely since the Van Halen III lineup folded. Doubtless health issues, personal issues and the like were obstacles, but Ed just...he grew content to do nothing and live off the spectacular guitar work he regularly turned out back in the day. Definitely made complacent by his own success.

[ZahZoo]

Like what??

I don't see anything other than a family photo.

That's really what life's all about... family.

A truly, happy moment such as what's captured there beats the shit out of any cheer leading jumps off a drum riser in spandex any day... every day!

[Nitro Express]

I thought it was more than just alcohol and chemical substances. Ed seemed like he had some sort of mental illness. He really seemed like one of those fucked up homeless paranoid schizophrenics running around on the streets. At that time Ed was really a 5150. He was a dangerous lunatic on the loose.

[Nitro Express]

Val's off the Jenny Craig?

I wonder if Ed is making like Spinal Tap and pounding Val’s big bottom? Ed’s wife Janie keeps posting tweets of her and her young Latin dance instructor. Ha! Young dance instructors, tennis instructors, meditation instructors and personal trainers get more ass than a toilet seat. Maybe Ed got hungry for that old time recipe and started pounding Val’s pouncake again. Maybe he got his drill out and drilled Vallerie with a jelly dildo attachment. Thinking about jelly made Vallerie squirt because jelly is a food item. Thinking about fettuccini Alfredo sends her into multiple orgasms.

[Baby's On Fire]

I wonder if Ed is making like Spinal Tap and pounding Val’s big bottom? Ed’s wife Janie keeps posting tweets of her and her young Latin dance instructor. Ha! Young dance instructors, tennis instructors, meditation instructors and personal trainers get more ass than a toilet seat. Maybe Ed got hungry for that old time recipe and started pounding Val’s pouncake again. Maybe he got his drill out and drilled Vallerie with a jelly dildo attachment. Thinking about jelly made Vallerie squirt because jelly is a food item. Thinking about fettuccini Alfredo sends her into multiple orgasms.


How old are you? Which is lower: Your age or IQ?

Show some class. Try hard.

[Bloomington]

How old are you? Which is lower: Your age or IQ?

Show some class. Try hard.
That is unusual for him to post things like that. Most of the time he just lies about things he has and has done.

[Nitro Express]

Nothing that you wouldn’t hear on Howard Stern or be a subject in a Hollywierd movie. Please. Stop being prudes. I just hope Sammy Hagar doesn’t steal the subject matter for The Circle’s new song Up for Breakfast II.

[Baby's On Fire]

Nothing that you wouldn’t hear on Howard Stern or be a subject in a Hollywierd movie. Please. Stop being prudes. I just hope Sammy Hagar doesn’t steal the subject matter for The Circle’s new song Up for Breakfast II.


Howard Stern is one of the biggest scumbags to ever walk the earth. Invoking him as a comparison doesn't reflect well. But who cares.

Stern is a no-talent hack. It's a sad commentary on humanity he has even a single fan.

I hate the guy for a lot of reasons, but I recall when TWA Flight 800 crashed soon after 911 when it took off from JFK and then went into the ocean, scumbag Howard had that even bigger idiot Stuttering John call in to the live news broadcast of the wreckage in the sea, and do the Babooey bullshit. What kind of disgusting people would do such a thing?

I can't believe in this PC age that people forgot about that. Maybe that event should be brought back to the public attention.

That was somewhat pre-internet. Maybe someone can find a clip of it and send it out to the media to expose the piece of shit for what he is.

And then making fun of the death of Lady Diana for a full week. What kind of piece of shit not only makes fun of someone dying, but profits off it.

[Nitro Express]

It’s a pretty shitty world. Usually people don’t care unless they get caught or their bowl of Cheerios gets pissed in. Tell people what they want to hear and then rob them blind. It’s all showbiz.

Maybe Kanye West’s God will save us. Kanye for president!

[Nitro Express]

I blame Russia, Howard Stern and Sammy Hagar for ruining the world.

[Nickdfresh]

Nothing that you wouldn’t hear on Howard Stern or be a subject in a Hollywierd movie. Please. Stop being prudes. I just hope Sammy Hagar doesn’t steal the subject matter for The Circle’s new song Up for Breakfast II.

Naw, Stern has grown up...

[bluemustard]

[QUOTE=Jérôme Frenchise;1940915]Ouch! Is it really Ed? Because if it is, then his state is very serious. You can't even

Could be prednisone.
Family member of mine has cancer and this medicine changed her face.
I had my checkup and I'm bladdercancer free for the next 9 months! :gulp:
haven't drank or smoked for 4 months..did have one joint and 2 whiskeys on the 2019 UK tour LOL
But yeah..hope Eddie is ok!!

[Terry]

It’s a pretty shitty world. Usually people don’t care unless they get caught or their bowl of Cheerios gets pissed in. Tell people what they want to hear and then rob them blind. It’s all showbiz.

Maybe Kanye West’s God will save us. Kanye for president!


Closed on Sunday...

You my Chic-Fil-A...

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Take care bro!

[Jérôme Frenchise]

[QUOTE=Jérôme Frenchise;1940915]free for the next 9 months! :gulp:
haven't drank or smoked for 4 months..did have one joint and 2 whiskeys on the 2019 UK tour LOL

Hold on and take care, mustard bro! :gulp:

[bluemustard]

[QUOTE=bluemustard;1941035]

Hold on and take care, mustard bro! :gulp:

Thanks Jérôme! :) All good bro! I got a hot chick doctor too hahahah she checks my bladder through my weener every 3 months but she said come back in 9 months..it's all ok..it's all clean and good. :gulp: All ready for 2020 UK tour and recording on my old 8 track.Shredding as usual! But a fucked up disease..nobody deserves such a thing. Hope Eddie is ok. roth on!

[Never was]

Ed is fine, he just does not want to do jack shit so that is what does jack shit. His prerogative but yeah blows

[Never was]

And I'm not...really sure if Dave has much left to bring to the table for me anymore, either...

I mean, I can't say as Roth hiring a new bunch of musicians and doing a House of Blues residency where he is doing CVH material...it all seems...it's not even more of the same in terms of what Roth has been doing the last 12 years, because the difference is now Roth isn't even performing the tunes with the Van Halens.

My reaction would doubtless be less "meh" if Dave were doing this with, say, the EEAS band. Or even if Dave had got Luzier back into the fold, maybe along with John 5, or Brian...and Roth was willing to give some of his lesser known deep cut solo material a live airing along with the predictable CVH stuff. As is, this just looks a bit too safe and predictable for me to get enthused...certainly not enthused enough to trek to Vegas to see it although were Roth playing somewhere closer to home I could imagine going for a few drinks and a few chuckles.

Like, what Roth was trying to do in Vegas in 1995 was sort of reinvent himself and redress his image. From all appearances, THIS Vegas stint smacks of CVH nostalgia cabaret, minus the attraction of Roth doing it with the Van Halens.

I suppose none of it really matters, but...it's just odd to think of Van Halen and Roth in terms of neither of them really mattering. Mostly because those guys to me represented the pinnacle of rock back in the early 1980s when rock really mattered to me the most. I suppose I should just lower the expectations I have from them with age (lord knows both Roth AND the Van Halens have given me plenty of reasons post-1985 TO lower my expectations), but, then again, why the fuck should I settle for less?

I guess my problem is that when I hear the 6 pack, the stuff still moves me as much as it ever did, whereas a lot of what Roth and the Van Halens have done in the last twenty five years hasn't. I guess my problem is I liked the band and the music TOO much back in the CVH days, to the point where whatever Roth and the Van Halens have done post-1985 has (by and large) fallen short...and I'm just still not willing to shrug my shoulders and accept a lesser result from any of those guys without criticism or complaint.

In particular, I think Ed squandered his talents more and more with each passing year after Dave left in 1985, and definitely since the Van Halen III lineup folded. Doubtless health issues, personal issues and the like were obstacles, but Ed just...he grew content to do nothing and live off the spectacular guitar work he regularly turned out back in the day. Definitely made complacent by his own success.

By the time Dave returned there simply was not much left of Ed. Wasted so many good years w the fat toad Hagar belting out Menudo like quality shit

[Terry]

By the time Dave returned there simply was not much left of Ed. Wasted so many good years w the fat toad Hagar belting out Menudo like quality shit

Well, I'd say by the time Roth returned to the fold in late 2006...the decade between 1996 and 2006 wasn't what anybody would describe as having been a good one for Ed.

The whole band were on the wrong side of 40 in 1996 to futz around for ten years before giving it another shot, and doubtless those ten years chipped away a bit more of the drive and ability.

What Roth did with Van Halen from 2007 through 2015 was about as good as could have been expected, considering the age, wear and tear, drug and alcohol abuse, etc. Ed eventually pulled his shit together, and whatever the result one can't say Roth came up short due to a lack of trying...

It just took too long for them to get it together for the net result to be anything particularly stellar. Quite good at points, but there you have it.

[bluemustard]

Eddie news:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr5xowhR3O4