Ford who killed JFK?

[JCOOK]

Hey Ford, I love your threads and posts. Who do you think killed JFK and why? I may actually agree with you

[lucky wilbury]

don't get him started

[Big Train]

The crackpots around at that time dont know how to use the internet, so Ford doesnt know yet.

He is waiting for the newsletter in his mail box..

[Seshmeister]

Bush...:)

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
Bush...:)


Bush was down in the sewers blowing hardened chickpeas out of his penis at the passing motorcade. :gulp:

[FORD]

The Kennedy-Nixon-Bush Connection
by Paul Kangas

As long as assassins get away with murder, every suicide and every accidental death is a potential murder.

A newly discovered FBI document reveals that George Bush was directly involved in the 1963 murder of President John Kennedy. The document places Bush working with the now-famous CIA agent, Felix Rodriguez, recruiting right-wing Cuban exiles for the invasion of Cuba. It was Bush's CIA job to organize the Cuban community in Miami for the invasion. The Cubans were trained as marksmen by the CIA. Bush at that time lived in Texas. Hopping from Houston to Miami weekly, Bush spent 1960 and '61 recruiting Cubans in Miami for the invasion. That is how he met Felix Rodriguez.

You may remember Rodriguez as the Iran-contra CIA agent who received the first phone call telling the world the CIA plane flown by Gene Hasenfus had crashed in Nicaragua. As soon as Rodriguez heard that the plane crashed, he called his long-time CIA supervisor, George Bush. Bush denied being in the contra loop, but investigators recently obtained copies of Oliver North's diary, which documents Bush's role as a CIA supervisor of the contra supply network.

In 1988 Bush told Congress he knew nothing about the illegal supply flights until 1987, yet North's diary shows Bush at the first planning meeting Aug. 6, 1985. Bush's "official" log placed him somewhere else. Such double sets of logs are intended to hide Bush's real role in the CIA; to provide him with "plausible deniability." The problem is, it fell apart because too many people, like North and Rodriguez, have kept records that show Bush's CIA role back to the 1961 invasion of Cuba. (Source: The Washington Post, 7/10/90).

That is exactly how evidence was uncovered placing George Bush working with Felix Rodriguez when JFK was killed. A memo from FBI head J. Edgar Hoover was found, stating that, "Mr. George Bush of the CIA had been briefed on November 23rd, 1963 about the reaction of anti-Castro Cuban exiles in Miami to the assassination of President Kennedy. (Source: The Nation, 8/13/88).

On the day of the assassination Bush was in Texas, but he denies knowing exactly where he was. Since he had been the supervisor for the secret Cuban teams, headed by former Cuban police commander Felix Rodriguez, since 1960, it is likely Bush was also in Dallas in 1963. Several of the Cubans he was supervising as dirty-tricks teams for Nixon, were photographed in the Zapruder film.

In 1959 Rodriguez was a top cop in the Cuban government under Batista. When Batista was overthrown and fled to Miami, Rodriguez went with him, along with Frank Sturgis and Rafael Quintero. Officially, Rodriguez didn't join the CIA until 1967, after the CIA invasion of Cuba, in which he participated, and the assassination of JFK. But records recently uncovered show he actually joined the CIA in 1961 for the invasion of Cuba when he was recruited by George Bush. That is how Rodriguez claims he became a "close personal friend of Bush."

Then "officially" Rodriguez claims he quit the CIA in 1976, just after he was sent to prison for his role in the Watergate burglary. However, according to Rolling Stone reporters Kohn & Monks (11/3/88), Rodriguez still goes to CIA headquarters monthly to receive assignments and have his blue 1987 bulletproof Cadillac serviced. Rodriguez was asked by a Rolling Stone reporter where he was the day JFK was shot, and claims he can't remember.

George Bush claims he never worked for the CIA until he was appointed director by former Warren Commission director and then President Jerry Ford, in 1976. Logic suggests that is highly unlikely. Of course, Bush has a company duty to deny being in the CIA. The CIA is a secret organization. No one ever admits to being a member. The truth is that Bush has been a top CIA official since before the 1961 invasion of Cuba, working with Felix Rodriguez. Bush may deny his actual role in the CIA in 1959, but there are records in the files of Rodriguez and others involved in the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba that expose Bush's role. The corporations would not put somebody in charge of all the state secrets held by the CIA unless he was experienced and well trained in the CIA. (Source: Project Censored Report, Feb 1989, Dr Carl Jensen, Sonoma State College).

Recently I interviewed former CIA liaison officer L. Fletcher Prouty. He is a consultant for the excellent new movie on how the CIA killed JFK, being made by Oliver Stone. He told me that one of the projects he did for the CIA was in 1961 to deliver US Navy ships from a Navy ship yard to the CIA agents in Guatemala planning the invasion of Cuba. He said he delivered three ships to a CIA agent named George Bush, who had the 3 ships painted to look like they were civilian ships. That CIA agent then named the 3 ships after: his wife, his home town and his oil company. He named the ships: Barbara, Houston & Zapata. Any book on the history of the Bay of Pigs will prove the names of those 3 ships. Again, this is more finger prints of George Bush's involvement in the Bay of Pigs invasion. Yet Bush denies his role in this great adventure. Why would Bush be so shy about his role in this war? What is the secret? Is there something dirty about this war that Bush & Nixon don't want the public to know about?

Answer: Yes there is. The same people involved in the Bay of Pigs were the people involved in the Watergate burglary. Why was the Watergate burgalarized [sic]? The CIA was trying to plug up a possible news leak. They were trying to stop the Democrats from publishing the photos of Hunt & Sturgis under arrest for the murder of JFK (May 7, 1977, SF Chronicle.)

Presently, there is a law suit attempting to force the government to release the records about the Bay of Pigs invasion. Why are those documents still secret? Why are they locked in the National Archives along with all the photos from [the] Dallas assassination of JFK? Why are the 4000 hours of Watergate tapes in which Nixon is babbling about the mysterious connections between the Bay of Pigs, Dallas and Watergate also being sealed in the National Archives? Is it because all three incidents are connected?

Yes. We must demand the secret files on these 3 cases be released now. For a copy of the petition to release the files, please write to: Paul Kangas, private investigator, POB 422644, SF, Ca 94142. Thanks to Oliver Stone's blockbuster new movie on JFK there is now sufficient national movement to reopen all these cases. The White House fears Stone's new movie so much that they have hired more CIA journalists to slander the movie & Stone. Don't fall for it. Every serious investigator now agrees that Oswald did not shoot JFK. That James Earl Ray did not shoot Dr. Martin Luther King and that Sirhan Sirhan did not shoot Robert Kennedy. These cases must be reopened so that Sirhan and Ray can be set free. The only bar that keeps Sirhan in prison is the tremendous anti-arab racism in Americans: in both blacks & whites.

According to a biography of Richard Nixon, his close personal and political ties with the Bush family go back to 1941 when Nixon claims he read an ad in an L A. newspaper, placed by a wealthy group of businessmen, led by Preston Bush, the father of George Bush. They wanted a young, malleable candidate to run for Congress. Nixon applied for the position and won the job. Nixon became a mouthpiece for the Bush group. (Source: Freedom Magazine, 1986, L.F. Prouty).

In fact, Preston Bush is credited with creating the winning ticket of Eisenhower-Nixon in 1952.(Source: George Bush, F. Green, Hipocrene, 1988).

Newly discovered FBI documents prove that Jack Ruby has been an employee of Richard Nixon since 1947. That that [sic] FBI document Ruby is listed as working as a spy & hit man for Nixon. On Nov. 22, 63 Ruby was seen by a women who knew him well, Julian Ann Mercer, approximately an hour before the arrival of JFK's motorcade, unloading a man carrying a rifle in a case at the Grassy Knoll from his car. Ruby later was seen on national TV killing a witness who could link Nixon & Bush to the killing of JFK: Oswald. On the Trail of the Assassins, Garrison, p xiii.

Richard Nixon was Vice President from 1952 until 1960. In fact, Nixon was given credit for planning Operation 40, the secret 1961 invasion of Cuba, during his 1959 campaign for President After Batista was kicked out by the starving people of Cuba, and Fidel Castro came to power, Castro began telling American corporations they would have to pay Cuban employees decent wages. Even worse, Pepsi Cola was told it would now have to pay world market prices for Cuban sugar.

Pepsi, Ford Motor Co., Standard Oil and the Mafia drug dealers decided Fidel had to be removed since his policies of requiring corporations to pay market wages was hurting their profits. So the corporations asked then Vice-President Nixon to remove Fidel. Nixon promised he would, just as soon as he'd won the 1960 elections against some underdog, an unknown Democrat named John Kennedy. It would be an easy victory for Nixon. The polls had Nixon winning by a landslide. Besides, Kennedy was a Catholic, and Americans would no more elect a Catholic President than they would elect a woman, a black or a Jew.

This was 1959. Nixon told Pepsi, Standard Oil and other corporations who lost property given back to the farmers of Cuba, that if they would help him win, he would authorize an invasion to remove Castro. To further impress contributors to his campaign, then Vice-President Nixon asked the CIA to create Operation 40, a secret plan to invade Cuba, just as soon as he won.

The CIA put Texas millionaire and CIA agent George Bush in charge of recruiting Cuban exiles into the CIA's invasion army. Bush was working with another Texas oilman, Jack Crichton, to help him with the invasion. A fellow Texan, Air Force General Charles Cabel, was asked to coordinate the air cover for the invasion.

Most of the CIA leadership around the invasion of Cuba seems to have been people from Texas. A whole Texan branch of the CIA is based in the oil business. If we trace Bush's background in the Texas oil business we discover his two partners in the oil-barge leasing business: Texan Robert Mosbacher and Texan James Baker. Mosbacher is now Secretary of Commerce and Baker is Secretary of State, the same job Dulles held when JFK was killed. (Source: Common Cause magazine, 3-4/90).

On the Watergate tapes, June 23, 1972, referred to in the media as the "smoking gun" conversation, Nixon and his Chief of Staff, H.R. Haldeman, discussed how to stop the FBI investigation into the CIA Watergate burglary. They were worried that the investigation would expose their conection to "the Bay of Pigs thing." Haldeman, in his book The Ends of Power, reveals that Nixon always used code words when talking about the 1963 murder of JFK. Haldeman said Nixon would always refer to the assassination as "the Bay of Pigs."

On that transcript we find Nixon discussing the role of George Bush's partner, Robert Mosbacher, as one of the Texas fundraisers for Nixon. On the tapes Nixon keeps refering to the "Cubans" and the "Texans." The "Texans" were Bush, Mosbacher and Baker. This is another direct link between Bush and evidence linking Nixon and Bush to the Kennedy assassination.

In the same discussion Nixon links "the Cubans," "the Texans," "Helms," "Hunt," "Bernard Barker," Robert "Mosbacher" and "the Bay of Pigs." Over and over on the Watergate tapes, these names come up around the discussion of the photos from Dallas that Nixon was trying to obtain when he ordered the CIA to burglarize the Watergate. (Source: Three Men and a Barge", Teresa Riordan, Common Cause magazine, March/April 1990, and San Francisco Chronicle, May 7,1977, interview with Frank Sturgis in which he stated that "the reason we burglarized the Watergate was because Nixon was interested in stopping news leaking related to the photos of our role in the assassination of President John Kennedy.")

After Nixon's landslide victory in 1972, he knew he had to centralize all power into the White House to keep his faction in power, not only to hold power, but to prevent the media from digging into how he secretly shot his way into the White House, just like Hitler shot his way into control of Germany. The first thing Nixon did was to demand signed resignations of his entire government. "Eliminate everyone," he told John Ehrlichman about reappointment, "except George Bush. Bush will do anything for our cause." (Source: Pledging Allegiance, Sidney Blumenthal.)

The reason why Bush will "do anything" is because his hands have as much of Kennedy's blood on them as do Nixon's, Hunt's, Sturgis's, Felix Rodriguez's and Gerald Ford's. This White House gang fears that if the public ever realizes how they shot their way into power it could set off a spark that would destroy their fragile fraud and land them in jail.

Other famous Watergate members of the CIA invasion that Bush recruited were Frank Sturgis, E. Howard Hunt, Bernard Barker and Rafael Quintero. Quintero has said publicly that if he ever told what he knew about Dallas and the Bay of Pigs, "It would be the biggest scandal ever to rock the nation."

Meanwhile, in 1960, Preston Bush was running Nixon's campaign. Nixon was sent to South Vietnam to assure the French- connection government there that if France pulled out, the U.S. would step in to protect the drug trade from the GoIden Triangle. (Source: Frontline, 1988, "Guns. Drugs and the CIA"; Alexander Cockburn; "Cocaine, the CIA and Air America," S.F. Examiner, Feb. 2, '91; The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia, Alfred McCoy, 1972.)

In 1959, Vice President Nixon was flying all over the world, acting just like presidential material. It was an easy race for Nixon. Congressman Jerry Ford was doing a great job fundraising for Nixon, as was George Bush. The rich loved Nixon. The media picked up every bone Nixon tossed out to them. The biggest problem was that Nixon was afraid to speak openly of his plan to invade Cuba. The plan was a secret. No sense in alerting Cuba to the coming invasion. But Kennedy was taking a harder line on Cuba than Nixon, because Kennedy was not aware of the corporate/CIA planned invasion.

Nixon lost the 1960 race by the smallest margin in history. At first Bush, Nixon, Cabel and Hunt decided to just go ahead with the invasion, without informing President Kennedy. Then, at the last second, at 4 a.m., just two hours before the invasion was set to go, General Cabel called JFK and asked for permission to provide U.S. air cover for the CIA invasion. Kennedy said no.

The CIA was furious with JFK but decided to go ahead with their private invasion anyway. Due to poor intelligence, the CIA landed at the worst possible beach. A swamp. The invasion failed. The CIA lost 15 of its best men, killed, with another 1100 in Cuban prisons. It was the worst single blow the CIA ever suffered. (Source: F. Howard Hunt, Give Us This Day.)

Bush, Nixon and Hunt blamed Cabel for asking Kennedy and blamed Kennedy for saying no. They were livid with anger. Nixon's corporate sponsors ordered JFK to make any deal necessary to recover the 1100 CIA agents imprisoned in Cuba. JFK did. Once the CIA had its well-trained Cubans back, they decided to continue the invasion of Cuba just as soon as they could get rid of that S.O.B. Kennedy.

The 1964 election was fast approaching. Nixon was running against Kennedy again. Bush, Ford and Nixon knew that they had to get rid of JFK now, or else the Kennedy clan, with Robert and Ted in the wings, could control the White House until 1984. They decided not to wait until '84 to get back in the White House. The Cuban teams of "shooters" began following Kennedy from city to city looking for a window of opportunity to shoot from. They came close in Chicago, but couldn't get the cooperation of Mayor Daley.

But in Dallas they had an ace. The mayor was the brother of General Cabel, whom the CIA blamed for the failure of the invasion. The general prevailed on his brother, Earl, and the motorcade was changed to pass the grassy knoll at 7 m.p.h. Hunt and Sturgis shot JFK from the grassy knoll. They were arrested, photographed and seen by 15 witnesses. But the media turned a blind eye to the photos, and for 25 years the world has been searching for the truth.

On the day JFK was murdered, Nixon, Hunt and some of the Watergate crew were photographed in Dallas, as were a group of Cubans, one holding an umbrella up, like a signal, next to the President's limo just as Kennedy was shot. The Cubans can be seen holding up the signal umbrella in the Zapruder film and dozens of stills taken during the assassination. After the murder they can be seen calmly walking away.

Nixon denied he was in Dallas that day, but new photos and stories prove he was there. Nixon claimed to the FBI he couldn't remember where he was when JFK was killed. (Source: FBI memo, Feb. 23, 1964, published in Coup d'etat in America, Weberman & Canfield). Bush, too, claims he can't remember where he was. Jack Anderson did a TV special in 1988 proving beyond any shadow of doubt that two of the tramps arrested in Dallas behind the grassy knoll were Hunt and Sturgis.

After the murder, former Vice President Nixon asked President Lyndon Johnson to appoint Nixon's friend, former FBI agent Jerry Ford, to run the Warren Commission. Nixon also asked LBJ to appoint Nixon's long-time supporter, Judge Earl Warren, to head the Commission. LBJ agreed. Ford interviewed all the witnesses and decided which ones would be heard and which ones eliminated. It is no coincidence that Nixon selected Ford as his Vice President after Spiro Agnew was ousted. When Nixon himself got busted in the Watergate scandal, Earl Warren offered to set up another special commission if it would help get him out of trouble again. Ford, of course, pardoned Nixon for the Watergate burglary but Nixon is still not out of the woods. There are 4000 hours of Watergate tape. On the June 23, 1972, discussions with John Ehrlichman and Haldeman there is clear evidence that Nixon is openly "confessing" to hiring Hunt to kill JFK. That is why the Watergate "investigation" went into secret session after Congress heard some of the tapes. This is why only 12 hours of 4000 hours have been released to the public.

Did Congress realize that Nixon and Bush had openly discussed killing JFK for stopping the air cover for the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba? Remember, Nixon taped virtually every discussion he had with anyone in his inner circle, including Bush, in order to blackmail people later. There is a photo of Bush reporting to Nixon in the White House in 1968. It will be interesting to see what they were talking about on that day, when the full 4000 hours are finally released. The key to unlocking the secrets behind the 1963 murder of JFK is hidden in the 3988 hours of unreleased White House tapes. Bush was in Dallas the day Reagan was shot. (Source: George Bush, F. Green, 1988.) That must have given Bush a flashback to November 22,1963.

[Seshmeister]

Summarised in these two conclusive pictures...

http://www.bertisevil.tv/img/bert1.gif

and


http://www.bertisevil.tv/img/assas_kenedy.jpg

[Seshmeister]

Sorry I misread you.

I thought you said the Kennedy-Nixon-Bert Connection...

[FORD]

That damned Bert turns up everywhere. Well, at least that means the CIA doesn't discriminate against homosexual puppets.

[Carmine]

Holy Shit Ford!. great post, I learned a few things reading that. I am fascinated with kennedy murder, that era in general. Very interesting and well done.

[Big Troubles]

Oh no, Ford's got followers.... DO NOT DRINK ANY KOOL AID. ;)

Drugs and adultery killed Kennedy long before bullets pierced through his skull.

[Carmine]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
Oh no, Ford's got followers.... DO NOT DRINK ANY KOOL AID. ;)

Drugs and adultery killed Kennedy long before bullets pierced through his skull.

LOL. Watch the movie " The Rat Pack" saw it a few nights ago, pretty good- Ray Liotta plays Frank Sinatra, for a look at the adultry and drugs and a few other things.

[Big Troubles]

seen it. good movie.

[Carmine]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
seen it. good movie.

could have been longer though.

[JCOOK]

Ive' always thought L.B.J. was behind it but thats for another day.

[WACF]

Jesus...long read but interesting.......

[John Ashcroft]

Ask Keef, he saw the movie...

[WACF]

Where did this article come from?

[ELVIS]

Some Left Wing conspiracy site...

[Satan]

Might as well necropost a GOOD thread once in a while.

42 years later, and the downfall of American Demoncracy began on that dark day is nearly complete....... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/images/smiley_evilFrown.gif

[Cathedral]

Hmmmm, but i was of the mind that thought the fall of Democracy began the moment we dropped bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, go figure!

As for who shot JFK, i have a deep seeded belief that it was a conspiracy by LBJ to take over the government, and successfully.
There is no way by looking at Kennedy's autopsy photos that there was only one gunman. the trajectory angles of the wounds do not support the official story of a lone gunman.

My opinion cannot be changed on that, and the Kool Aide needs more sugar. ;)

[Nickdfresh]

http://www.jodysgarage.com/images/funny/mug/lee-harvey-oswald.jpg
Lee Harvey OSWALD's mugshot.


Lee Harvey Oswald's skull after exhumation obviously:

http://adipocere.homestead.com/files/lhoskull2.jpg http://adipocere.homestead.com/files/lhoskull2.jpg


More Lee Harvey Oswald exhumation photos from 1981 (see the other LHO photo on the Images1 page of this site for more information). Buried 18 years in a wet grave, the accused JFK assasin's waterlogged casket was exhumed for a new autopsy at the behest of Oswald's widow, in order to settle certain questions about who was actually in the casket. As you can see, Mr. Oswald 's head was not preserved particularly well; but it was indeed preserved to a large degree, by adipocere formation. The whitish substance on the skull is adipocere; much the rest of the rotted flesh had adipocere in pockets throughout. Oswald's head was severed for one autopsy photo, which was supposed to be limited to his teeth (for dental records identification purposes only). Obviously, other images were taken as well. The purple arrow and question mark, along with the red circle, pertain to previously noted autopsy information from LHO's original November 1963 autopsy. In case you were wondering, Mr. Oswald's remains were still quite odiferous almost two decades after his burial, per published reports. Below are photos of the living LHO from the time of JFK's November 1963 assasination.
http://adipocere.homestead.com/files/exhumelhoswaldteeth.jpg

The whitish/yellow bits in this photo is very infamous adipocere indeed. That's the decomposed toothy smile of the late Lee Harvey Oswald, accused assassin of President John F. Kennedy. Oswald was himself gunned down by Dallas nightclub owner Jack Ruby on 23/11/1963, and was buried in a Texas cemetery. Nearly 18 years later, assassination conspiracy theorists' lingering doubts concerning exactly who was buried in Oswald's grave prompted an exhumation and a new autopsy. While no full facial photos were allowed by agreement with LHO's widow, a tight shot of his teeth was permitted, for identification purposes. The condition of the corpse was described as poor, due to the fact that the burial vault LHO's casket was deposited in had cracked open at some point, allowing water to fill it. The casket itself was full of putrid water. However, some adipocere still clung to parts of Oswald's remains, as evidenced in this image. Note the wire, used to secure the jaw for open casket display at the time of embalming in 1963. By the way, the remains were positively identified as being those of Lee Harvey Oswald. He was reburied in a new vault and casket, presumably in a dry grave. See Links page for LHO's official autopsy report.

After many years of believing in a conspiracy, I believe that OSWALD did it.

His relatives live in the WNY area, and there seems to be a troubled gene that runs through their family as the youngest threatend to shoot up his school...

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
After many years of believing in a conspiracy, I believe that OSWALD did it.

His relatives live in the WNY area, and there seems to be a troubled gene that runs through their family as the youngest threatend to shoot up his school... [/B]

I don't doubt Oswald was there and shooting. The question is were there some other people there shooting too.

It's amazing how fucked up so much of the JFK story is.

I saw a bit of a documentary yesterday that stated categorically that there was definitely a second shooter because acoustic evidence proved it completely and this is why the House Special Committe on Assasinations said it was a conspiracy.

I was going to dig it out for this thread and then I come across a later report http://www.jfk-online.com/nas01.html#execsum by the NAS Committee on Ballistic Acoustics that says that is total bullshit and there is no acoustic evidence.

No wonder people spend their whole lives unable to unravel this...

Cheers!

:gulp:

[Nickdfresh]

Not one documentary on the JFK Assassination on today? WTF?


JOHN F. KENNEDY ASSASSINATED:
November 22, 1963

John Fitzgerald Kennedy, the 35th president of the United States, is assassinated while traveling through Dallas, Texas, in an open-top convertible.

First lady Jacqueline Kennedy rarely accompanied her husband on political outings, but she was beside him, along with Texas Governor John Connally and his wife, for a 10-mile motorcade through the streets of downtown Dallas on November 22. Sitting in a Lincoln convertible, the Kennedys and Connallys waved at the large and enthusiastic crowds gathered along the parade route. As their vehicle passed the Texas School Book Depository Building at 12:30 p.m., Lee Harvey Oswald allegedly fired three shots from the sixth floor, fatally wounding President Kennedy and seriously injuring Governor Connally. Kennedy was pronounced dead 30 minutes later at Dallas' Parkland Hospital. He was 46.

Vice President Lyndon Johnson, who was three cars behind President Kennedy in the motorcade, was sworn in as the 36th president of the United States at 2:39 p.m. He took the presidential oath of office aboard Air Force One as it sat on the runway at Dallas Love Field airport. The swearing in was witnessed by some 30 people, including Jacqueline Kennedy, who was still wearing clothes stained with her husband's blood. Seven minutes later, the presidential jet took off for Washington.

The next day, November 23, President Johnson issued his first proclamation, declaring November 25 to be a day of national mourning for the slain president. On that Monday, hundreds of thousands of people lined the streets of Washington to watch a horse-drawn caisson bear Kennedy's body from the Capitol Rotunda to St. Matthew's Catholic Cathedral for a requiem Mass. The solemn procession then continued on to Arlington National Cemetery, where leaders of 99 nations gathered for the state funeral. Kennedy was buried with full military honors on a slope below Arlington House, where an eternal flame was lit by his widow to forever mark the grave.

Lee Harvey Oswald, born in New Orleans in 1939, joined the U.S. Marines in 1956. He was discharged in 1959 and nine days later left for the Soviet Union, where he tried unsuccessfully to become a citizen. He worked in Minsk and married a Soviet woman and in 1962 was allowed to return to the United States with his wife and infant daughter. In early 1963, he bought a .38 revolver and rifle with a telescopic sight by mail order, and on April 10 in Dallas he allegedly shot at and missed former U.S. Army general Edwin Walker, a figure known for his extreme right-wing views. Later that month, Oswald went to New Orleans and founded a branch of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, a pro-Castro organization. In September 1963, he went to Mexico City, where investigators allege that he attempted to secure a visa to travel to Cuba or return to the USSR. In October, he returned to Dallas and took a job at the Texas School Book Depository Building.

Less than an hour after Kennedy was shot, Oswald killed a policeman who questioned him on the street near his rooming house in Dallas. Thirty minutes later, Oswald was arrested in a movie theater by police responding to reports of a suspect. He was formally arraigned on November 23 for the murders of President Kennedy and Officer J.D. Tippit.

On November 24, Oswald was brought to the basement of the Dallas police headquarters on his way to a more secure county jail. A crowd of police and press with live television cameras rolling gathered to witness his departure. As Oswald came into the room, Jack Ruby emerged from the crowd and fatally wounded him with a single shot from a concealed .38 revolver. Ruby, who was immediately detained, claimed that rage at Kennedy's murder was the motive for his action. Some called him a hero, but he was nonetheless charged with first-degree murder.

Jack Ruby, originally known as Jacob Rubenstein, operated strip joints and dance halls in Dallas and had minor connections to organized crime. He features prominently in Kennedy-assassination theories, and many believe he killed Oswald to keep him from revealing a larger conspiracy. In his trial, Ruby denied the allegation and pleaded innocent on the grounds that his great grief over Kennedy's murder had caused him to suffer "psychomotor epilepsy" and shoot Oswald unconsciously. The jury found Ruby guilty of "murder with malice" and sentenced him to die.

In October 1966, the Texas Court of Appeals reversed the decision on the grounds of improper admission of testimony and the fact that Ruby could not have received a fair trial in Dallas at the time. In January 1967, while awaiting a new trial, to be held in Wichita Falls, Ruby died of lung cancer in a Dallas hospital.

The official Warren Commission report of 1964 concluded that neither Oswald nor Ruby were part of a larger conspiracy, either domestic or international, to assassinate President Kennedy. Despite its seemingly firm conclusions, the report failed to silence conspiracy theories surrounding the event, and in 1978 the House Select Committee on Assassinations concluded in a preliminary report that Kennedy was "probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy" that may have involved multiple shooters and organized crime. The committee's findings, as with those of the Warren Commission, continue to be widely disputed.

http://www.aref.de/kalenderblatt/2003/pics/kennedy-rede-berliner.jpg
http://www.you-on-tv.com/jfk.jpg

[Hardrock69]

I have videotape taken of the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository. Just a minute or two BEFORE the motorcade passed by.

There was movement in 2 different windows at the same time.

VISUAL PROOF that even if Oswald WAS a shooter, there was SOMEONE ELSE WITH HIM on the 6th floor at that time.

But, for a more light-hearted look at this crime, go here:



http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23899&highlight=Elvis+JFK

[Nickdfresh]

Kennedy is my hero...

But, I think Oswald shot him (with a little help from his friends), but he was the primary, if not only, shooter...

[Hardrock69]

What most people do not realize is that there was not just one film shot that day by Zapruder in Dealey Plaza.

There were at least 14 other people shooting film that day. At least one person who was right there on the opposite side of the street from Zapruder had their film confiscated and it never was seen again.


I am going to post some still images from some of these pieces of film.

Here is a still looking AT The Texas School Book Depository about 2 seconds before the shots were fired.

The Presidential MurderMobile has just turned the corner, and you can see the left rear wheel, as pointed out by a red arrow. Up above, is the window where Oswald theoretically was, marked also in red.

[Hardrock69]

Here is a closeup of the window where Oswald supposedly was.

You can clearly see someone in the window. HOWEVER, the shooter would have had to be out of sight to the right of the window in order to shoot at JFK.

Therefore the person seen is a SECOND person.

[Hardrock69]

There was also movement seen in the arched windows to the left of the pair where the shooter supposedly was.

Ok, the above film was shot by a guy named Robert Hughes.

This screen cap from film was of the limousine as it passed directly in front of the Schoolbook Depository, 2 seconds before the first shot. The camera person (Tina Towner) would have been standing just to the left of the red arrow int he still from Mr. Hughes:

[Hardrock69]

Here is a screen cap of film that was shot from the FOURTH FLOOR of the Schoolbook Depository:

[Hardrock69]

This screen cap is from film shot by John Martin, who was across the street from the Schoolbook Depository. Not a really clear image of the entire limo, but I have outlined where Jackie and the right rear tire of the limo can be seen briefly:

[Hardrock69]

This screen cap is from film shot immediately after the event, which shows police examining the second rifle which was found on the 6th floor of the Schoolbook Depository:

[Hardrock69]

Here is a screen cap of a film taken 6 minutes before the shooting by (don't laugh) a guy named Charles Bronson of the Schoolbook Depository which can be seen on the left:

[Hardrock69]

Here is a closer look at the infamous 6th-floor window:

[Hardrock69]

In microscopic closeup of this film, movement was seen in all three easternmost windows simeultaneously on the 6th floor, proving that there WAS a conspiracy (defined as more than one person committing a crime).
Note that even though this is fairly blurry (like REALLY blurry) this is because it is a still.

Movement can be seen when the film is in motion.

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6 minutes later, Bronson also filmed the motorcade. He had his camera set on wide angle, not telephoto, so the resolution is crap. This is the moment of the headshot:

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Here is a screen cap from the Orville Nix film, taken from across the street from Zapruder.

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Screen Cap from the Muchmore film, also at the point of the head shot:

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Screen cap from the Mark Bell film, just a second before the first shot:

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Another Screen cap from the Bell film. Hauling ass to the underpass:

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Jack Daniel was on the other side of the overpass:

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Last but not least....the way it was....a happy couple out for a drive on a nice sunny day...
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JFK was my hero.

I was only 3 when he died. I only knew that President Jack (that is what I called him) was the most powerful man in the country.

And to a 3-year-old, that might as well be a mythological being with supernatural powers.

I do not remember the day he died.

Of course that was 42 years ago today.


I do remember one thing though.

6 months later, LBJ came to my then hometown of Knoxville, TN for a speech of some kind.

Here is the record in LBJ's public papers:

324. Remarks Upon Arrival at the Airport, Knoxville, Tennessee. May 7, 1964

325. Remarks at the Coliseum, Knoxville, Tennessee. May 7, 1964

LINK (http://www.jfklink.com/speeches/lbj/1963_1964/lbj_contents_papers1963_bk1.html)

My Dad and I watched as the Presidential Limousine drove by in a parade down the main drag.

It had a top.

All the windows were rolled up.

I waved at LBJ.

He was not waving at anybody.

That fucking bastard.

There is a book out now...written by his personal attorney from 1966 until he died in 1971, Barr McClellan.

by the early 70s, he assisted the head of LBJ's law firm (Edward Clark) in seeking an assassination bonus from Big Oil interests in Dallas. Clark had arranged everything, so that LBJ could have the usual "Plausible denial" of any knowledge.

He got 2 million bucks net for his trouble.

The hit had to happen in a state where they had the legal system in their pocket.

Texas was the playground of LBJ. He had ultimate power.

Yet, he was on the verge of being charged with conspiracy to commit murder, as well as numerous other charges, even though he was the V.P. The only way he could avoid being prosecuted and forced to resign as Vice President was to become President.

That is just skimming the surface.

If nothing else, the book is an excellent read on how our government really works.

Forget all that bullshit about how a "law" is enacted in Congress.

It all comes through back-room deals, payoffs, slush funds, and leverage by those who have Power.

I sincerely hope LBJ is being fucked in the ass by Satan.

I am done with this subject.