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  • Rikk
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jan 2004
    • 16518

    In just a few days, we can truly prove that this was all A MISTAKE!!!

    Trust me...this album will not sell very well. These fans can go on about how great 7000+ is in this day and age. Fine. We all know it's bullshit.

    But nothing will speak better than chart positions and sales numbers. You can't give away a CD and call it a sale...or can you?

    This album will NOT hit No. 1 (or probably even close), and it will sell less than VH3 (I think). C'mon...a double-disc greatest hits (their second in eight years), ignoring their recent failure album and concentrating on the same material that the first greatest hits covered? Seriously...people will see through a JUMP, PANAMA, etc. live section with Sammy singing (though I bet you it won't say which singer is on the live tracks...it'll just say LIVE). And three new songs that you NEVER hear on the radio or see on MTV or anything.

    There is NO hype behind this shitty product. It's a fucking joke. And this will finally prove our point. Dave could sell 3 million greatest hits albums on the strength of two new songs. This album won't even hit 500,000 with three new Shammy songs.

    I can't wait 'til next week, because these are the numbers we'll truly be able to throw back in the cheeseheads faces. And they'll try and cry: "It's just a Greatest Hits." And we'll just have to point out how well the first Greatest Hits sold.
    Roth Army Militia

    Originally posted by WARF
    Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.
  • EmpyreLounge44
    Foot Soldier
    • Jun 2004
    • 724

    #2
    definitly agree with you...i may download the three new tracks once the hit Itunes to check them out, although I assume it will be a full album only deal where youd have to buy the whole thing. Should have just been a best of volume 2 if they were going to go the route of a best of. dont make us buy BOV1 with a handful of more tracks tha werent on the first one

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    • Figs
      Crazy Ass Mofo
      • Jun 2004
      • 2942

      #3
      The album won't sell well, all casual fans got the first "best of" and how many Rhino albums sell very much anyway?

      A "reunion" tour of one of the biggest names in rock history after a long hiatus should be selling much better. A couple of the bigger names not doing well on on their second or third year in a row of touring. Metallica is doing fine, after a crappy album - good show by the way, and they do a center stage and sell all seats all the way around the arena.

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      • EmpyreLounge44
        Foot Soldier
        • Jun 2004
        • 724

        #4
        the metallica fans are nuts and way overly dedicated...itd be like if every vh could agree on something

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        • Figs
          Crazy Ass Mofo
          • Jun 2004
          • 2942

          #5
          Originally posted by EmpyreLounge44
          the metallica fans are nuts and way overly dedicated...itd be like if every vh could agree on something
          you're probably right

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          • EmpyreLounge44
            Foot Soldier
            • Jun 2004
            • 724

            #6
            but what fun would that be...we would all have NOTHING to talk about

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            • ZahZoo
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Jan 2004
              • 8970

              #7
              I don't know Rikk... next week may be a little early to judge. Appears the whole music industry is in a lull overall. I wouldn't be too quick to cry failure unless there's some comparative info available.

              Seriously I don't know of too many "best of's" that tap the charts with the exception of the Beatles anthology which had a ton of unreleased material.
              "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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              • DLR_EngineRoom
                Veteran
                • Jan 2004
                • 2304

                #8
                Originally posted by Rikk
                Trust me...this album will not sell very well. These fans can go on about how great 7000+ is in this day and age. Fine. We all know it's bullshit.

                But nothing will speak better than chart positions and sales numbers. You can't give away a CD and call it a sale...or can you?

                This album will NOT hit No. 1 (or probably even close), and it will sell less than VH3 (I think). C'mon...a double-disc greatest hits (their second in eight years), ignoring their recent failure album and concentrating on the same material that the first greatest hits covered? Seriously...people will see through a JUMP, PANAMA, etc. live section with Sammy singing (though I bet you it won't say which singer is on the live tracks...it'll just say LIVE). And three new songs that you NEVER hear on the radio or see on MTV or anything.

                There is NO hype behind this shitty product. It's a fucking joke. And this will finally prove our point. Dave could sell 3 million greatest hits albums on the strength of two new songs. This album won't even hit 500,000 with three new Shammy songs.

                I can't wait 'til next week, because these are the numbers we'll truly be able to throw back in the cheeseheads faces. And they'll try and cry: "It's just a Greatest Hits." And we'll just have to point out how well the first Greatest Hits sold.

                The new CD cover was leaked out. Just like those Hagarita Fagaritas, I've got inside connections...hahahaha
                http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t.../EddieDave.jpg
                http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...ve_ed_2007.jpg
                http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...os/TORCH_B.gif

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                • Rikk
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 16518

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ZahZoo
                  I don't know Rikk... next week may be a little early to judge. Appears the whole music industry is in a lull overall. I wouldn't be too quick to cry failure unless there's some comparative info available.

                  Seriously I don't know of too many "best of's" that tap the charts with the exception of the Beatles anthology which had a ton of unreleased material.
                  Yeah, but some Greatest Hits sets do very well. Also, BEATLES ANTHOLOGY was only unreleased material. It wasn't a GREATEST HITS set at all. Anyway, Greatest Hits sets don't receive the same hype, but they usually are big catalogue sellers. But I guarantee you this one won't have a fraction of the sales the original did. It's a big rip-off, and the first one sold basically on the strength of two new Roth songs. Three horrible Sammy songs that the radio stations are ignoring are not going to sell many records.
                  Roth Army Militia

                  Originally posted by WARF
                  Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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                  • Rikk
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 16518

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DLR_EngineRoom
                    The new CD cover was leaked out. Just like those Hagarita Fagaritas, I've got inside connections...hahahaha
                    LOL!!!!! God, Hagar looks gay (as usual).
                    Roth Army Militia

                    Originally posted by WARF
                    Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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                    • guwapo_rocker

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rikk
                      Yeah, but some Greatest Hits sets do very well. Also, BEATLES ANTHOLOGY was only unreleased material. It wasn't a GREATEST HITS set at all. Anyway, Greatest Hits sets don't receive the same hype, but they usually are big catalogue sellers. But I guarantee you this one won't have a fraction of the sales the original did. It's a big rip-off, and the first one sold basically on the strength of two new Roth songs. Three horrible Sammy songs that the radio stations are ignoring are not going to sell many records.
                      It will sell 6 copies tops!!

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                      • L.S.D.

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rikk
                        Yeah, but some Greatest Hits sets do very well. Also, BEATLES ANTHOLOGY was only unreleased material. It wasn't a GREATEST HITS set at all. Anyway, Greatest Hits sets don't receive the same hype, but they usually are big catalogue sellers. But I guarantee you this one won't have a fraction of the sales the original did. It's a big rip-off, and the first one sold basically on the strength of two new Roth songs. Three horrible Sammy songs that the radio stations are ignoring are not going to sell many records.
                        so if it tanks, does that mean the dlr era tanks too? Its half his era? Huh rothtards?

                        This album will not sell because a) who buys cd's anymore? Were in the age of downlaoding and Ipods and buring. B) every vh fan already has it.

                        You guys are getting retarded on youre moans and groans. Half of hta best of is classic van halen, so if it tanks it will reflect on both eras. But if it doesnt tank, does that mean the classics saved it? what a fucking joke.

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                        • Rikk
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 16518

                          #13
                          Originally posted by L.S.D.
                          so if it tanks, does that mean the dlr era tanks too? Its half his era? Huh rothtards?

                          This album will not sell because a) who buys cd's anymore? Were in the age of downlaoding and Ipods and buring. B) every vh fan already has it.

                          You guys are getting retarded on youre moans and groans. Half of hta best of is classic van halen, so if it tanks it will reflect on both eras. But if it doesnt tank, does that mean the classics saved it? what a fucking joke.
                          God, you're dumb. The point, moron, is that some people would buy a CD because it has new songs with their singer of choice (hence, the excellent sales of BEST OF, VOLUME 1). However, with nobody talking about Van Halen right now (since they're back with the much-less popular singer), and since nobody is playing the new songs, this album will tank because Van Halen is killing their reputation and people just don't care about new music with Hagar.

                          Once again, you post something ludicrous that accents your own idiocy. You are still, without a doubt, the worst, stupidest and most despicable poster here. You are extremely dumb, arrogant and disgusting. The fact that you see nothing wrong with stealing from people, the fact that you are the most hated poster at this site...just look at yourself.

                          Who's moaning? I think it's hilarious. I want to see this band fail now. They continuously treat their fans like shit. Why make fans pay for a double-CD set for three new songs that you pulled out of your ass?

                          And also, idiot, did you just say that "nobody buys CDs anymore"? That's pathetic. Is that how you're going to justify this album's shitty sales? That's really being desparate. Plenty of people buy CDs still, idiot, or nobody would make them. Moron. I buy tons of 'em. And I download too. The new songs...I downloaded. And let's just say that Winamp didn't have to work very hard with these...I hardly ever played these pieces of shit.

                          Plenty of albums still sell. The new VELVET REVOLVER is selling excellently. Plenty of bad albums sell too. But this atrocity won't sell...and it makes me again laugh at how arrogrant this band is after people have thrown their shit back in their faces so many times now. Eddie is a loser because he had it all and continues to piss on his own parade.
                          Roth Army Militia

                          Originally posted by WARF
                          Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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                          • lms
                            Head Fluffer
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 355

                            #14
                            Originally posted by L.S.D.
                            so if it tanks, does that mean the dlr era tanks too? Its half his era? Huh rothtards?

                            Learn to read. Roth fans already have the material. There is nothing to add to a true Classic VH fans' collection. Classic VH/Roth fans got their best of with the two new Roth songs a long time ago. The sheep will have to put their money where their mouth is on this one for it to be successful. Do they get enough allowance for that? WTF. Besides, as far as being the age of downloading, burning Ipods., etc. Dave knew that along time ago.

                            Help me out Roth Fans, which Dave song was the first song to be available for downloading via the internet? It was another of Dave's crowning achievements...just cant remember the specifics.
                            "Remember, life is just a game and no one gets out alive"

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                            • L.S.D.

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lms
                              Learn to read. Roth fans already have the material. There is nothing to add to a true Classic VH fans' collection. Classic VH/Roth fans got their best of with the two new Roth songs a long time ago. The sheep will have to put their money where their mouth is on this one for it to be successful. Do they get enough allowance for that? WTF. Besides, as far as being the age of downloading, burning Ipods., etc. Dave knew that along time ago.

                              Help me out Roth Fans, which Dave song was the first song to be available for downloading via the internet? It was another of Dave's crowning achievements...just cant remember the specifics.
                              and hagar fans dont have all the materail? Everybody I know has been able to download the new songs for months. You can get them on Itunes or any VH fan site. I bet you guys have even heard them.

                              Back in 1996, downloading and burning and ipods did not exist and youre talking about a one disc vs a double disc. Honestly, how can you guys ay its even close to being the same scenario?

                              Van Halen with Sammy always sold. It wont now due to the format, the music industry, and the fact that EVERYONE, not only roth fans, everybody has these tunes already.

                              What a joke.

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