7 Strings: Innovation or fad?

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  • Mr Badguy
    Full Member Status

    • Jan 2004
    • 3554

    7 Strings: Innovation or fad?

    I`ve never played a seven stringer personally, I couldn`t afford one and I don`t have the balls to try one out in store, I was just wondering what everybody else thinks about them.

    Does having that extra string give an extra dimension or do you still stick to the usual six strings?

    It sure doesn`t make any of Steve Vai`s records any more listenable.
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  • Hecubus
    Foot Soldier
    • Jan 2004
    • 575

    #2
    Fad.

    Who uses 'em besides Korn & Steph Carpenter from the Deftones?
    "Honey, my shirt got itself torn up. My shirt tore itself on that stripper's hand, and I need it to be sewed up for the show."
    "No problem, Dave, no problem. Say hello to Fluffy."
    "Fuck you, Fluffy."
    "No, no, you're going to upset Fluffy."
    "I ain't saying hello to no stuffed bear."
    "You know, now that I think about it, it's going to take a little longer to sew up that shirt than I was thinking."
    "Hi Fluffy, how you been?"
    "Now that I'm thinking of it even more, it's going to take half the time, Double D, Diamond Dave! Would you hold Fluffy?"
    "N--- yeah."

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    • Panamark
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Jan 2004
      • 17113

      #3
      We are talking an extra top string right ?
      How is it tuned ? Is it in E or do they actually tune
      it to A ?? I wonder how your normally played chords
      sound ?
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      • BrownSound1
        ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
        • Mar 2003
        • 3025

        #4
        It's actually tuned to a B, if I'm not mistaken, which is like a 5 string bass. So you get B E A D G B E for a 7 string tuning.

        To me there really isn't much point to it. Anything in that low of a register should be handled by the bassist.

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35159

          #5
          I played one and hated it...

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          • Panamark
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Jan 2004
            • 17113

            #6
            Originally posted by Brownsound1
            It's actually tuned to a B, if I'm not mistaken, which is like a 5 string bass. So you get B E A D G B E for a 7 string tuning.

            To me there really isn't much point to it. Anything in that low of a register should be handled by the bassist.
            Shit, I had this figured out the other way, I thought they put an extra high string on, not an extra "Bass" string.
            BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
            Love ya Mary Frances!

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            • Eyes of the Night
              Veteran
              • Jan 2004
              • 1993

              #7
              I say innovative ... you guys ever heard of Korn!? ... They are da masters of the 7 stringed geeters ...
              Broken down n' dirty dressed in rags ...

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              • BigBadBrian
                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                • Jan 2004
                • 10620

                #8
                Uh...............this is like the question of whether or not more than 4 strings are needed for a bass. Hell, 4 give me enough trouble.
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                • Mr Grimsdale
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 8905

                  #9
                  how often does steve vai use them these days?
                  i think that answers your question

                  GUSSET
                  Originally posted by flappo
                  i'm sure grimsdale's on drugs

                  Originally posted by Cato
                  translating your Japanese.


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                  omae baka dana?

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                  • genesius1

                    #10
                    Seven String Theory

                    Seven stringers are very cool but it takes being in your hands to find out. Here's one of the best things ...

                    Unlike a sax, for example, guitar is often played as a sight-based instrument. I.e, you choose your next note because of its position on the fretboard, not because you have a melody in your head. A seven string screws up your visual accomodation of the instrument and initially leads to some horrible mistakes. And mistakes, as we well know, are often the basis of really cool new ideas. And cool new tunes. In a way, a seven string is like playing in a new tuning. Also, truly thunderous chords are now available.

                    As to the charge that the seventh string is not necessary, I would point out that the top and bottom octaves of a piano are seldom used. But when needed, those notes are only available in one place. I'm sure your not thinking of taking a chainsaw to your piano because of this (though it would fit better in the back seat).

                    Also, a seven string can be tuned in a variety of ways. I guess you could put an .008 on top and tune the whole thing a step or two down.

                    Warning: don't play your 7string at an important gig until your are totally familiar with what it does. Under stress, things can go wrong and you'll have some heavy explaining to do. No one will be happy with your experiment or your excuse.

                    2nd Warning: if you play your 7string long enough, your regular guitar will feel like a banjo when you go back to it!!!

                    Good luck, god bless, keep making music.

                    Genesius

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                    • Mr Grimsdale
                      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 8905

                      #11
                      i know something else that feels like a banjo
                      a pink banjo
                      i'm playing it now
                      Originally posted by flappo
                      i'm sure grimsdale's on drugs

                      Originally posted by Cato
                      translating your Japanese.


                      "Master Cato is...I order, it's yours. don't ask me to do gay material for the life of me because you kick my bat."

                      omae baka dana?

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                      • mako_kimura
                        Sniper
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 826

                        #12
                        Well, I've tried a used seven string out at Guitar World last weekend. Honestly, it plays well, but the extra bottom string takes some getting used to. It's great to experiment with, and it's even more fun if it comes with a locking tremolo system. Overall, since they've gone "out of style", I'm no longer afraid to experiment. But it was a fad
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                        • ELVIS
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 44120

                          #13
                          You go grrl...

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                          • ELVIS
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 44120

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mr Grimsdale
                            i know something else that feels like a banjo
                            a pink banjo
                            i'm playing it now

                            LMAO !!


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                            • doctor roth
                              Head Fluffer
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 257

                              #15
                              I like the low tones you can let ring out over the top of other playing. Jeff Loomis plays 7 strings and imo he's one of the best and most innovative players going around.
                              As long as all the regular strings are standard tunings dont think there is really a problem with it being 'too low' and competing with the bass. Besides a clean bass note and distorted guitar note of the same octave will sound different anyway. BTW i dont own a 7 string or play one. I just think they have their place. I WAS going to post a couple of cool 7 string clips but u tube is down................TBC

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