Out of the three, Rush were really the only band where there was improvement after a member from the original lineup was replaced. Certainly, in terms of creative/studio output, the stuff Rush was releasing toward the end of their career stood alongside the stuff they were putting out in their heyday (unlike, say, Ozzy's post No More Tears stuff).
Also, when Rush finally packed it in as a live act, they did so on their terms and while they were still able to perform about as well as they ever did as a live act. In other words, they went out on top with class. Unlike Ozzy, who has been doddering around like a befuddled geezer onstage for twenty years. Or Roth, who was performing adequately for his age on the last two Van Halen Mach 4 tours but obviously (and understandably) nowhere near the level he was even in 2007, much less in the 1980's.
Yep, Rush exited the stage with their heads justifiably held high. I gather there is talk about Geddy and Alex going back out billed as Rush with a new drummer. Hopefully they don't. Rush is Lee, Alex and Peart.
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My big 3 favorite bands have always been Van Halen, Rush and Ozzy. Over the years it's only Rush that haven't gone down a lot in my estimation as people but the music remains.Leave a comment:
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I certainly never assumed you were a Trunk fanboi, rather I was bemused by Trunk's consistently bloated sense of self-importance. It's like, dude, by the time anyone knew who you were the hardrock and heavymetal 'scene' as such in the 2000's had already devolved into over-the-hill bands trotting out on neverending nostalgia tours. Trunk seems to think he is as important as the musicians themselves.
I hate Trunk but I had already posted before I realized the story about the backstage singer was from his site.
On the singing thing it just seemed weird that after standing watching Ozzy butcher and struggle through sets for over 30 years the last time I see him he suddenly starts singing so well.
For a minute I wondered if maybe he could always sing Sabbath and it was his solo material that caused him issues but that makes no sense especially when you know that 35 years earlier virtually all the vocals on Speak of the Devil had to be redone in the studio.
With Ozzy, he was never a particularly great singer. A distinctive voice that certainly fit the material. Memorable personality and showman. By no means an outstanding vocalist in the technical sense. That was apparent when I saw him in '84 and '86. More of a cheerleader. In point of fact, when I think about it, it has been the case where usually the musicians behind him - be it in Sabbath or his various 80's solo band lineups - were a bit more competent than he was.
I have that performance he did with Sabbath in 1978 for the Never Say Die tour, filmed at the Hammersmith Odeon. I picked the dvd up in the early 2000's, but my understanding is the audio is identical to the VHS release originally put out in 1980. Ozzy sounds sturdy enough performance-wise. From what I recall, watching it I didn't see any egregious instances of, say, Ozzy's mouth being too far away from the mic with no corresponding decrease in volume. Contrasted with the dvd video release of the 1982 Speak of the Devil show, where it becomes readily apparent probably all the vocals were re-recorded post-performance.Leave a comment:
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I hate Trunk but I had already posted before I realized the story about the backstage singer was from his site.
On the singing thing it just seemed weird that after standing watching Ozzy butcher and struggle through sets for over 30 years the last time I see him he suddenly starts singing so well.
For a minute I wondered if maybe he could always sing Sabbath and it was his solo material that caused him issues but that makes no sense especially when you know that 35 years earlier virtually all the vocals on Speak of the Devil had to be redone in the studio.Leave a comment:
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Courtesy of Trunk's website, Eddie Trunk has dominated the hardrock and heavy metal scene with his electrifying shows? Haha! He is referring to his now defunct VH1 That Metal Show and his current talk radio (or podcast, or whatever) show? Yeah, electrifying.
I was at one of the last Sabbath shows in 2017 and the vocals were good. Surprisingly good, some people would say suspiciously good...
As for the Sabbath 2017 shows, was your inference that the vocals were a bit too good to be true/performed live without any offstage pre-recorded enhancements? Wouldn't surprise me if Ozzy was singing along with backing tracks. It'd be more surprising if he wasn't.Leave a comment:
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I was at one of the last Sabbath shows in 2017 and the vocals were good. Surprisingly good, some people would say suspiciously good...
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We had a chance to see Sabbath in...2015, I think. Caught a few clips of the tour before tix went on sale. It sounded like the guitars were tuned down even more - keeping in mind Sabbath tuned down to begin with - and the vocals sounded bad even by Ozzy standards. Not only didn't the vocals sound good, but the songs sounded weird due to the downtuning. I wasn't inclined to go anyway after Bill Ward pulled out, but hearing those tuned down guitars and shitty vocals, I was just like, nope. I think the tix were around $50 or so, which was cheap, and I still gave it a pass.
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I liked the early Maiden stuff, but for me the best stuff they ever did was that one, two, three combo of Beast, Mind and Powerslave. Just three fantastic albums.
Which, no slag against Di'Anno, but to me the band took a move up when they got Dickinson. They took another move up after Clive Burr left. Which, again, isn't to say Di'Anno (or Burr, for that matter) were subpar or anything like that. Bruce and Nico were just a bit better.Leave a comment:
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I was actually planning to go see him in a couple of weeks for the first time - I only ever liked early Iron Maiden.
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