Tapes that kill

[twonabomber]

The interview was pretty good too

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/motley-crue-mick-mars-1234768041/

[silverfish]

Mick Mars Never Wants to Speak to Mötley Crüe Again — and 14 Other Things We Learned

IN EARLY MAY, we travelled to Nashville to spend a couple of days with Mick Mars and hear about
his bitter departure from Mötley Crüe. Mars stepped away from the touring unit in late 2022 after
41 years in the group he co-founded.

Our feature article dives deep into this morass, and contains perspectives from attorneys on
both sides, Mötley Crüe’s manager Allen Kovac, former Crüe’ singer John Corabi, and members
of Mars’ pre-fame band White Horse. But there was a ton we simply didn’t have room to run.
Here are 15 things we learned from our time with Mick Mars.

Full piece at:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/motley-crue-mick-mars-lawsuit-things-learned-1234778252/

[Nitro Express]

Monk didn't hide, he left a bit upset because he had seen nearly every VH show since '78 and thought just when they're in front of their largest audience they put out a drunken substandard performance instead of one-for-the-ages. I don't recall anything about a mass exodus, and he said later he was surprised how well received they were after. They got three or so live singles out of it and as much as I like the Scorpions no one really cares about them much now...

I’m not talking about now. I’m talking Memorial Day weekend in 1983. Noel Monk said he was so embarrassed he went to the trailer and got smashed. His own words. Quite a few people were leaving during the VH show but they were the last act to play and people wanted to get out early to beat the big traffic jam.

Actually the band complained that putting on that one show was as much work as prepping for a tour. I guess the overhead was pretty high for one show.

[Nickdfresh]

I've never even seen the Scorpions footage from Heavy Metal Day, Priest definitely killed it though...

An audio only boot exists, but sounds kinda of shitty...

[FORD]

The Scorpions are best remembered these days for a cheesy ballad that - at the time - seemed very optimistic about the future of the world. Sadly, they got it wrong. As did 90s one hit wonders Jesus Jones ("Right Here, Right Now")

Wasn't either band's fault, obviously. But neither song aged particularly well.

Scorpions peak was the Lovedrive/Animal Magnetism/Blackout era. Those three records still hold up today. After that they went a little cheezy... not Hagar level or anything, but "Rock You Like A Hurricane" was close to that, lyrically.

[Von Halen]

I am looking forward to Tool in the Fall!

Saw them last year at LCA in Detroit. Wasn't a great show. Not sure I'd go see them again. Maybe in a smaller place.

[Nickdfresh]

Well maybe you see things different than Van Halen's manager who went and hid after seeing the opening and the people who were leaving early. To be honest, we should have started walking to the car. The people who left early were the smart ones. It did get better about halfway into it. Anyways it was filmed and not too much good footage of Dave era VH and that's why it is popular. The Scorpions blew VH out of the water. They were the best band that day.

Monk didn't hide, he left a bit upset because he had seen nearly every VH show since '78 and thought just when they're in front of their largest audience they put out a drunken substandard performance instead of one-for-the-ages. I don't recall anything about a mass exodus, and he said later he was surprised how well received they were after. They got three or so live singles out of it and as much as I like the Scorpions no one really cares about them much now...

[Romeo Delight]

I have zero interest in going to a stadium show ever again. In fact, I'm very close to being done with arenas too.

I am looking forward to Tool in the Fall!

[Von Halen]

Well maybe you see things different than Van Halen's manager who went and hid after seeing the opening and the people who were leaving early. To be honest, we should have started walking to the car. The people who left early were the smart ones. It did get better about halfway into it. Anyways it was filmed and not too much good footage of Dave era VH and that's why it is popular. The Scorpions blew VH out of the water. They were the best band that day.

Lay off the dope, dope.

[Nitro Express]

The opening song didn't suck.

Well maybe you see things different than Van Halen's manager who went and hid after seeing the opening and the people who were leaving early. To be honest, we should have started walking to the car. The people who left early were the smart ones. It did get better about halfway into it. Anyways it was filmed and not too much good footage of Dave era VH and that's why it is popular. The Scorpions blew VH out of the water. They were the best band that day.

[Von Halen]

True. They are also a major reason people went though. When you are out in a big field all day long getting sunburned and the final big band finally hits the stage after some lame ass Apple Computer UFO shit and the opening song sucks, you get really pissed.

The opening song didn't suck.

[Nitro Express]

Wozniak knew he needed a couple huge acts to make his three day festival work. It's why he offered the big drawing acts big money. Nobody was going to drive to San Bernardino to go see the smaller bands. Anyways looking back at it, festivals were silly. But when you are young and dumb it seems cool. At least you can say you were there.

[Nitro Express]

To be fair Van Halen was the late act...

True. They are also a major reason people went though. When you are out in a big field all day long getting sunburned and the final big band finally hits the stage after some lame ass Apple Computer UFO shit and the opening song sucks, you get really pissed.

[Nitro Express]

Motley Crue got a lot of airplay and their antics got a lot of press. They had a good ballad too and the radio stations loved that shit. The Crue was getting noticed and that sold albums and put asses in seats and that's the game. The big money was being able to get on the radio and MTV a lot and they accomplished that. You can be stellar but with no promotion you will be nothing more than the favorite band to a handful of fans. You need good catchy songs and good videos. At least int the 80's you needed that. There's not radio like there was and not MTV. Nobody is listening or watching anymore.

[Nitro Express]

Cooper's career had pretty much peaked in the mid-1970's and, as you say, he wasn't doing much by the time the US Fest took place. When [Cooper] was name-checked in press articles in 1983/1984 as an influence on Motley Crue I was kinda like "oh, yeah, I remember that guy...what's he doing these days?" But as you said, Crue were just one of many rock bands selling a decent amount of records and getting airplay on MTV in the mid-80's. It probably wasn't until the Dr. Feelgood album, which was...what...1989/1990?...that I got a sense that Crue were still popular and getting more so than they were in the mid-1980's. By 1990, most of Crue's American rock (or 'hair metal') contemporaries were selling less than they had been 5 years earlier.

He looked horrible. He looked like you dug up a corpse. But hell for his kind of a show maybe that's a good thing. Alice was in rough shape in the early 80's but rebounded when his song Poison was a hit and the Wayne's World movie got him back in the spotlight. I enjoy his radio show. Much better than Sammy Hagar's show.