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Yeah but to be fair I think some of the guitarists you mention that were fair-to-midline got better with age. Mick Mars/Deville were probably better players in 2005 than they were in 1985, because they actually started practicing... -
Yeah, Mars as a guitar player was...when me and my buds were learning to play in the early 80's, Mick Mars was someone we considered kinda lame. As you say, he came up with decent riffs. I liked the first two Crue albums well enough for what they were. Far as guitar solos go, Mars was the original Nigel Tufnel. I recall seeing Spinal Tap in the theater when it was released, which was shortly after Shout At The Devil was put out, and thinking when the Nigel Tufnel solo spot came onscreen that it sounded just like Mick Mars. Like, when we were learning how to play, we were trying to play stuff by Van Halen, or Rhoads, or DeMartini, or George Lynch or Malmsteen. Nobody was showing up to garage band practice and showing off a Mick Mars guitar solo.
Doubtless, Mars didn't give a shit then and doesn't now. C.C. DeVille was arguably slightly worse, although I do remember always thinking his solo in Talk Dirty To Me was perfect for the song, much like I always thought the Cavazo solo in Cum On Feel The Noize was perfect for that song.Leave a comment:
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There has also been a reinvention of Mick Mars in the current media to be honest. At least in the circles I hung out in late 80s Mick Mars was a rung above CC Deville as just better than crap. In hindsight that was maybe a bit harsh and he came up with decent riffs but to me at least it's kind of weird that he is rated so highly as a musician by the young people.Leave a comment:
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Nikki Sixx auditioned for Quiet Riot in 1978 after their original bass player Kelly Garni quit the band. He didn't get the gig because he couldn't play the bass. Randy Rhoads tried to teach him, and it didn't work.Leave a comment:
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Another irony is Motley Crue are being blasted for miming, yet Motley Crue is one band that kinda needs pre-recorded tracks...outside of Tommy Lee and Mick Mars, well, the other two guys suck live. They always sucked live. Vince Neil has never been a good live singer and Nikki Sixx has never been a good bass player. That was true when I saw them in 1984 and was just as true as when I saw them in 2015.Leave a comment:
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Yeah I get having the hot bims on stage as pseudo-strippers thing. But I've seen plenty of bands, like Pink Floyd, that had sexy background singers and they didn't have to gyrate and shake-it like white girls. Floyd's singers simply swayed back and forth or stood there, and sang great!Leave a comment:
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J5 is a great dude. In his defense on the "Tryhard" issue. He's always been a hired gun. A gun slinger so to speak. I think a lot of these guitarists that have made it big as hired guns, are this way. I think Vai, Satch and a lot of the hired guns try too hard. The biggest difference is Vai and Satch had at least one solo album that made it pretty big. That makes it a little easier for them. I will give Vai credit in the fact that he seems to have accepted his role as a solo artist playing theatres and mid sized venues, for the most part. Which for me, is much more appealing than arenas and stadiums anyway. J5 never had that solo album that blew up. He's released some great stuff, but it's never been a hit to the masses. It will be interesting to hear the new stuff he is recording with Motley. While I think his guitar parts will be great, I don't hold out much hope that anything earth shattering is going to come out. Motley Crue's best days are behind them.
I totally agree with Trunk on live music being live. I also agree that this prerecorded bullshit could kill rock music. I fucking hate this need for these bands to sound perfect live. If I want to listen to the album, I'll listen to the fucking album. I go to a live show to see musicians play live. If they miss a note, so what. They are taking the heart and soul out of the live show. They are no fucking better than Milli Vanili (Nickdboybandlovers favorite band) or Britney Spears or any of these other lip syncing frauds. I love the charm of a live show. If it's not live, there is no point in even going anymore. I don't do FaceBook so I'm sure as hell not going to live shows just so I can post on FB that I was there. Fucking people these days go to these shows more for social media purposes, than they do the live music. What a shame.Leave a comment:
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Is John 5 wearing black contact lenses in the still on that YouTube?
He seems a nice enough guy and a great player but there is something a bit 'Tryhard' about his image.
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Most I've ever agreed with Trunk. Get the dancers to stop dancing at the chorus and sing then.
He misses a key point too that because Tommy Lee is playing to a click track that can pull all the energy out of the performance.
Also both of Nikki Sixx hands are up so I don't get how he played even open string notes but I guess it could maybe be a video sync issue.
How many parts of a Crue set have sirens and keyboards that have to be on a tape - why not have an off or preferably onstage keyboard guy dealing with that?Leave a comment:
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Twenty seconds in Nikki does his signature 'play the bass with both hands in the air' move. :D
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Which, I mean, I'm not being a codger or crying poor or whatever...like, a year/year and a half ago, Missus Terry wanted to see KISS. Can't say as I had any interest myself - I wouldn't have opted to see them - but she'd never seen them before, blah blah blah. Tickets worked out to be something like $65 a pop after all the fees and whatnot. Fine. I know it's not the 1980's anymore; upwards of $100 a pop is to be expected. We saw Garth Brooks a year ago, paid maybe $100/$125 a pop. Fine.
$400 or $500 or $1k a pop for tix? Yeah, financially I COULD meet those prices and not have to jerk off to feed the cat afterwards in terms of breaking the bank, but as I said there ain't nobody left performing worth it to me to see if the tix are at those prices. I'd sooner go down to the local Asian Massage Parlor Rub Hut and get several nuttings for that kind of dough.Leave a comment:
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This is the thing for me, it's one thing to shell out $40 as something to do but not $400.
I would much rather go and see Steel Panther play to a crowd of 2000 for $50 than Aerosmith play to 16000 for $500.
I haven't seen Aerosmith since the 9 Lives tour and I think I vowed never again after that.Leave a comment:
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