Better Call Saul

[Terry]

Is Blue Bunny Ice Cream even that good? I mean it's not like it's Ben & Jerry's.

Ben & Jerry's is shit.

[Seshmeister]

The ice cream is a running theme...

[FORD]

Is Blue Bunny Ice Cream even that good? I mean it's not like it's Ben & Jerry's.

[Fairwrning]

I'm not sure about this, I think without his corroboration she was still safe from criminal prosecution. He used the threat of that to make sure she was in court to hear his confession which was genuine and he thought he should be punished more than the 7 years. I think. He's a new character at that point - post Gene - he's James McGill. Whether he stays as that or becomes Saul again in jail isn't clear but he is already being called Saul by the inmates.

I'll need to watch it again.

When he got caught somebody wrote " My lawyer kicked your ass" or something to that effect on the cell wall..he went into Saul mode negotiating but when he tried to get the " Ice cream", he found out Howard was not a bargaining chip.I think thats when he decided to fess up.Even got Kim to show up to see it.

[Nickdfresh]

...

Out of the 3 ghosts the genius Walter White nails it with the 'You've always been like this' line.

Probably true. But White never applies any of that scrutiny to himself. Whereas Mike is somewhat reflective and contrite on the question saying he'd never have taken his first bribe; Walter still acts like a victim cunt that had his empire stolen from him and he wouldn't have been manipulated. But he did a lot of that by being stubborn and dumb. He LET them!!! He's evading the responsibility that both Mike and Jimmy ultimately admit, though Jimmy has to be beaten up a bit more...

Having said that I guess maybe Walt ultimately admits in the close of Breaking Bad and sort of tries to makes things right...

[Seshmeister]

Decent overview...

[Seshmeister]

Ill go back and watch it all again at some point..I do think that Saul would have remained Saul and got the 7 years had he not been told about Kim telling Howard's wife about their scheme. He realized he was fucked and just wanted to see Kim again. I was actually surprised that he came clean.

I'm not sure about this, I think without his corroboration she was still safe from criminal prosecution. He used the threat of that to make sure she was in court to hear his confession which was genuine and he thought he should be punished more than the 7 years. I think. He's a new character at that point - post Gene - he's James McGill. Whether he stays as that or becomes Saul again in jail isn't clear but he is already being called Saul by the inmates.

I'll need to watch it again.

[Seshmeister]

And bringing Marie back was brilliant

Annoyingly you couldn't tell if she was wearing purple.

[Fairwrning]

And bringing Marie back was brilliant

[Fairwrning]

Ill go back and watch it all again at some point..I do think that Saul would have remained Saul and got the 7 years had he not been told about Kim telling Howard's wife about their scheme. He realized he was fucked and just wanted to see Kim again. I was actually surprised that he came clean. I was expecting a more " shocking" ending with Kim killing him but was good to see he was actually sorry and he and Kim had their cig. I got the impression from the look back that she will never go back to see him.
The " time machine " flashbacks were good..especially Mike's.

[Seshmeister]

I'll miss the whole ABQ universe but can't complain - we got 11 seasons and a movie.

[Seshmeister]

Managed to get through the 18 hours without spoilers.

In many ways I think he would enjoy being in jail more than the life as a Cinnabon Manager.

Out of the 3 ghosts the genius Walter White nails it with the 'You've always been like this' line.

[Nickdfresh]

Funny how he can be a complete con man but really worry about his co-workers at the Cinnabon...Lalo shooting Howard really fucked things up

IDK not to psychoanalyze but Jimmy is the id Saul is the ego, and Gene/post-Saul Jimmy are sort of the superego? IDK

He was definitely a conman but he also was a good brother (to an extent) until he found his brother was even more of a sociopath that he was. He loves Kim and is willing to sacrifice himself to save her. It's a redemption story. Saul was both horrible and good-and-decent to fluctuating degrees. He build Heisenberg's drug empire but he also saved to dumb skateboarder cons from being killed by Tuco when he could have walked away...

And Howard is the unfortunate victim of the drive-by but he wasn't blameless either...

[Fairwrning]

Funny how he can be a complete con man but really worry about his co-workers at the Cinnabon...Lalo shooting Howard really fucked things up

[Nickdfresh]

86 years.........

"Well, with good behavior"...