U.S. may sell bunker busters to Israel

[Redballjets88]

we could conquor china too because look at how japan raped them before and during ww2 they might have some of our tech. but not all of it and god only knows what we dont know about yet

[Redballjets88]

its good because isreal will use them to blow the shit out of the palestinian terrorists that also hate americans and have used suicide bombers to kill american tourists before

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by Nitro Express
China is temorarily keeping us afloat until they steal enough of our technology and ruin our capacity to produce, so they can call the shots.

You don't make shit without manufacturing and you can't keep your war machine going without it. We have lost that in droves.

That's what I fuckin' worry about. The A-rabs aren't that big a deal compared to the Red Chinese.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Nitro Express
The only way we could be China in a land war is to use nukes. Large wars are expensive and because of our huge trade deficite with countries like China, we have less and less money in the country to finance huge wars.

China is temorarily keeping us afloat until they steal enough of our technology and ruin our capacity to produce, so they can call the shots.

You don't make shit without manufacturing and you can't keep your war machine going without it. We have lost that in droves.

As more time goes by and business as usual continues, we might no be able to really do shit for Taiwan. I think the cost will be too high and we will just let China take it.

I don't know about that. Right now we could not 'conquer' China unless we had a significant build up of weapons and manpower.

But our weapons and communications systems trounce the Chineses'. The US could give China a significant bloody nose and probably wipe out her navy and airforce.

Ten or 20 years down the road, alll bets are off.

[Nitro Express]

The only way we could be China in a land war is to use nukes. Large wars are expensive and because of our huge trade deficite with countries like China, we have less and less money in the country to finance huge wars.

China is temorarily keeping us afloat until they steal enough of our technology and ruin our capacity to produce, so they can call the shots.

You don't make shit without manufacturing and you can't keep your war machine going without it. We have lost that in droves.

As more time goes by and business as usual continues, we might no be able to really do shit for Taiwan. I think the cost will be too high and we will just let China take it.

[Nickdfresh]

Maybe those smart bombs as well as othe Israeli military tech will come back to haunt us if China decides to invade Tiawan.

[Nitro Express]

The Patriot Act gives the president enough executive power to nullify all our Constitutional rights immediately. When you have guys like General Franks calling democracy and interesteing experiment and flat out says the United States will be ran by the military if a major chemical or nuclear attack happens, then you know some of the the people in the Dept of Defense and Govt. actually are hoping we do get attacked again. Why? So they can grab power.

Going into Iraq was all about a few people using the excuse of terrorism and weapons of mass destruction to empower and enrich themselves. They miscalculated the opposition and the insurgency problems. The Haliburton oil grab didn't quite work out as planned but shit, who cares, it's not their money or lives at stake is it?

[Nitro Express]

The rest of the world is modernizing. Not only does that put a strain on the world's resources, it means more developing countries have weapons that only a handful of countries use to have.

History has always showed if someone want's something bad enough, they will get it. Joseph Stalin was a good example of this.

In the nuclear age, you keep your enemy at bay by having a better first strike capability than they do. At least that worked in the cold war who we knew who our enemies were.

There is no easy answer. If someone is nuts enough to use some of these weapons they are going to use them. A kamakazi with a nuke is a chilling reality.

The one thing for sure is your life is preciouse and it's going to end. Maybe from some drunk asshole in a car hits you or a nuclear bomb. Who knows. The world has always been a dangerouse place. In the Roman Empire the average life expenctancy of a male was 24 years. Today it's 78 years. We have more years on average. All I can say is don't waste them.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by FORD
Can anyone else think of any other hateful murderous genocidal bastards that we can help out?

We could give some mustard gas to those Sudanese folks, help them out a little.

What do you think BBB?

[Nitro Express]

Israel has nukes. Who cares about bunker busters? We found ours don't work anyways. Our latest and greatest bunker busters never penetrated Saddam's bunker. It's still pristine down there.

I wouldn't underestimate the Israelis. They build some good shit on their own. They don't need to buy from us, because they have the people who can develope and build it.

The way I see it, if you can deliver a nuclear bomb, then anything less is really not worrying about. Sure, a rogue state can blow a nuke in the US but we don't have nieghbors who can immediately invade us. In Israel, they do. It'a all about survival to them and they take it seriouse. They know the cost of doing something stupid. Israel won't do anything unless it's neccessary for their survival.

[Nickdfresh]

[i]Maybe our Israeli friends will sell them to China.

China issue undermines US-Israeli defence ties
Tensions between the US and Israel over Israeli defence exports to China remain unresolved, despite recent visits by Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Defence Minister Shaul Mofaz to Washington.
[Jane's Defence Weekly - first posted to

http://jdw.janes.com

– 22 April 2005]

[FORD]

Originally posted by larbo
that's what they thought about osama bin faggin.

No, Osama actually existed at some point. Though the existence of Al Qaeda as an "international terrorist syndicate" is doubtful, and both he and Zarqawi have become the Emmanuel Goldstein to the BCE/PNAC Big Brother.

[larbo]

that's what they thought about osama bin faggin.

[FORD]

Don't worry about Zarqawi. He's about as threatening as the Easter Bunny.

[larbo]

mistake! mistake! mistake! when will our pollock government figure out these assholes can't be trusted with high-tech weapons? we armed and trained the goddamn taliban! and trained that zarcowi(spelling?) sumbitch and look what happened. I dont know who makes these decisions but they need to check thereself.