You can have preferences and views and there is some grey stuff and some things that may or may not be true but some stuff is just factual.
Russia has and does have a ton of people working on causing disruption in western countries the US, UK and so on. Its not specifically pro Trump it's who they think is most likely to cause disruption so they have supported various things like BREXIT, Bernie Saunders and Trump.
If you get rid of journalists then all you have is people just fucking talking. There is no source for the comment, no data, no content, it's just waffle.
The thing that scares me these days is that people say stuff like 'all politicians are in it for themselves, they all lie, they are all corrupt' and then in the next breath want to give their guy absolute dictatorship power and want anyone that disagrees locked up like it's some sort of fucking football game and if your team wins you also win.
I really don't understand people that think the government is shit wanting to have a more authoritarian regime.
"I hate the government I really wish that they would shoot protestors more'.
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I think the Democrats fought the election like it was 2004 not 2024. Having thousands of people knocking on doors doesn't make a difference so much - who answers their phone never mind the door during the day? Spending huge amounts on TV commercials when the people who may be influenced don't watch TV any more. Doing the weak crap on SNL didn't work for Hillary never mind now.
Looks like the gap was too big that any one thing would have made a difference but not going on Rogan while Trump, Vance and Musk all do in the last week was really fucking dumb.
Rogan is one of those people that agrees with the last person he talked to and is always a soft interview. If he has a scientist on like Brian Cox he's all about science, next day he could have a fucking tinfoil hat crazy UFO lizards guy and he will be all for it. Admittedly he skews a bit towards the crazy but still.
In 2016 there he did a live thing on election night from the comedy store with some other comics like Bill Burr and he was amazed, kind of appalled, thought it was fucking crazy that people would elect Trump. It will be on YouTube somewhere.
The votes that were up for grabs are what you would politely call 'low information voters' and there are definitely a bunch of them in the 28 million Rogan audience.
That said maybe she was always going to lose because hispanics, blacks and a bunch of other people aren't going to vote for a mixed race woman from San Fran when their rent has gone up 30% in a few years.Leave a comment:
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John Malone (Warner Discovery/CNN) and Brian Roberts (Scumcast/MSDNC) are both extreme right wing billionaires. Nothing remotely "lib" about either of them.
Are their networks pathetic at "journalism"? Definitely. But it has nothing to do with "left wing" leanings, because none exist with either of them.Leave a comment:
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I have seen some Democrats saying they should be listening to the working people instead of chasing donors and the Hollywood elites.
Speaking of Hollywood...I am enjoying the outrage. Rich people telling poor people to be wary of rich people? Shut the fuck up. Go play make believe.
Too much talk about how billionaires are celebrating this election. Rolling Stone says "Billionaires Take Smug Victory Lap After Trump’s Decisive Win." Like there wouldn't be any millionaire actors doing the same thing.
Jon Stewart is crying about pollsters. Weren't most of the polls wrong in 2016?
Stop saying so-and-so cares about the public and so-and-so doesn't. None of them care about the rest of us.
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Joe Rogan's regular podcast audience is about 28x larger (14m v. 500k) than CNN's primetime audience.
Fox is the biggest News Channel in the US.
Musk owns and controls the Twitter algorithm deciding what people see on there.
Time to move on from the left leaning mainstream media line - things have changed big time.
It's been done so that literally the least fucking underdog people in the world including the 2 richest can present themselves as victims.
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Are their networks pathetic at "journalism"? Definitely. But it has nothing to do with "left wing" leanings, because none exist with either of them.Leave a comment:
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When people like Bruce Springsteen, Beyonce, and the Great Taylor Swift start endorsing politicians that politician is in trouble. Don't know abut you but I can't afford a $500-$5000 ticket to see these assholes when you can barely afford between food and rent. There is no question Trump will fuck over the working class like we have never seen before and most likely bankrupt the country and the idiots who voted for him will still follow him to their literal deaths. This was a billionaire bought-and-paid for election and now they run the country, Trump is just the figurehead for asssucks like Von.
R.I.P. America.Last edited by 78/84 guy; 11-07-2024, 06:20 PM.Leave a comment:
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I have seen some Democrats saying they should be listening to the working people instead of chasing donors and the Hollywood elites.
Speaking of Hollywood...I am enjoying the outrage. Rich people telling poor people to be wary of rich people? Shut the fuck up. Go play make believe.
Too much talk about how billionaires are celebrating this election. Rolling Stone says "Billionaires Take Smug Victory Lap After Trump’s Decisive Win." Like there wouldn't be any millionaire actors doing the same thing.
R.I.P. America.Leave a comment:
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I have seen some Democrats saying they should be listening to the working people instead of chasing donors and the Hollywood elites.
Speaking of Hollywood...I am enjoying the outrage. Rich people telling poor people to be wary of rich people? Shut the fuck up. Go play make believe.
Too much talk about how billionaires are celebrating this election. Rolling Stone says "Billionaires Take Smug Victory Lap After Trump’s Decisive Win." Like there wouldn't be any millionaire actors doing the same thing.
Jon Stewart is crying about pollsters. Weren't most of the polls wrong in 2016?
Stop saying so-and-so cares about the public and so-and-so doesn't. None of them care about the rest of us.
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For everyone to move forward we need more people like this coming forward.
perhaps more importantly Democrats who are still actually curious should listen to why people voted the way they did. Blaming racism and voter suppression will bury you further into irrelevancy. It’s your choice.
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