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  • Steve Savicki
    • Jan 2004
    • 3937

    Natural Gas users



    WASHINGTON - Winter heating bills will be a third to a half higher for most families across the country, with the sharpest increases expected for those who heat with natural gas, the Energy Department forecast Wednesday.

    The department said natural gas users can expect to pay an average of $350 more during the upcoming winter compared to last year, an increase of 48 percent. Those who heat their homes with fuel oil will pay $378 more, or 32 percent higher than last winter.

    Propane users can expect a percentage jump in their bills similar to those of fuel oil users.

    In its winter fuels outlooks report, DOE's Energy Information Administration assumed a normal winter and steady progress in restoring oil and natural gas production and refinery output from the damage inflicted by hurricanes Katrina and Rita.

    "Should colder weather prevail, expenditures will be significantly higher," the EIA said.

    The agency as well as the natural gas industry said that heating costs could vary widely among regions.

    The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration offered a bit of cheer Wednesday morning, issuing a long-range winter forecast calling for warmer than normal temperatures in much of the Midwest and Pacific Northwest.

    NOAA's National Weather Service said there is a 60 percent chance of warmer than normal weather in the Dakotas, Nebraska, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, north Texas, northern New Mexico and southern and eastern Colorado. States adjoining that area, plus Washington, Oregon, Alaska and Hawaii also have a chance of being warmer than usual. Other areas could be warmer or cooler than usual but no area was singled out to be especially cold.

    A month ago, the EIA said natural gas prices could jump as much as 71 percent in the Midwest, where four of every five homes are heated by gas. It made no such specific assessment this time, but acknowledged that a colder-than-normal winter in the Midwest would produce significantly higher costs.

    The cost of fuel accounts for about 70 percent of the price utilities charge retail residential customers, according to the American Gas Association.

    EIA said it expects continued recovery of the energy system in the Gulf region in the coming months. But it said it expects a third of the Gulf's crude oil and a fifth of its natural gas to remain shut-in into December.

    It also projected wholesale natural gas prices staying at about $12 per thousand cubic feet through the winter heavy demand period, twice what it cost last winter.

    For some low-income families the sharp jumps could mean choosing whether to eat or keep warm, energy experts and advocacy groups fear.

    The natural gas utilities warned Tuesday that despite their attempts to contain retail fuel costs, heating bills for gas users this winter will jump 50 percent over last season nationwide. In parts of the Midwest bills could be much higher.

    More than half of all U.S. households heat with natural gas. But many of those who rely on electric heat, nearly a third of the country, may also see bills go up because many power plants run on natural gas. And users of fuel oil, more than half the households in New England, are expected to see their costs jump by a third or more over last winter, according to industry and government estimates.

    "We have never had prices so high and increase so quickly," said Mark Wolfe, executive director of the National Energy Assistance Directors Association, which represents the state agencies that distribute money to help low-income families pay their fuel bills.

    This winter, Wolfe expects more than a million additional applicants for the government program, a 20 percent increase over last year, with not enough money to go around. Congress provided $2.2 billion for the program, known as LIHEAP, last year. Wolfe said $5.1 billion is needed to keep pace this coming winter with the soaring energy costs and expanded demand.

    The double punch of the two hurricanes knocked out 20 percent of the nation's natural gas production, severely damaged gas processing facilities along the Gulf Coast and shut down more than a dozen refineries. As a result, natural gas supplies and heating oil are tight as functioning refineries focused on getting enough gasoline onto the market — and not building up stocks of heating oil.

    Heating costs for the average family using fuel oil in the Northeast is projected by the group to be as much as $1,867 for the winter heating season, an increase of $605 over last winter, and $915 more than two years ago.

    About half of all households in New England use fuel oil.

    In the Midwest, where natural gas heats 79 percent of all homes, according to AGA, the winter heating costs are projected to soar to $1,568 for the season, an increase of $611 over last winter, according to Wolfe.
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  • scamper
    Commando
    • May 2005
    • 1073

    #2


    Between the greedy gas companys and the EPA it looks like we're screwed, but at least its forcing the SUV owners to buy hybrids(...sarcasm).

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    • The Scatologist
      Sniper
      • Jan 2005
      • 932

      #3
      Who needs to pay for natural gas when all I have to do is stick a tube up my ass? :D
      The name Sammy Hagar conjures up a variety of emotions from music fans--from hate to contempt, from disgust to revulsion.

      -TheSmokingGun.com

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 59901

        #4
        Considering the goddamn energy monopoly here estimates the bills here rather than actually READING the fucking meter, I'd bet that I'll probably get warmer winter temperatures AND higher gas bills.

        Last 2 winters I haven't had to turn the heat on until late November, yet the October & November bills are mysteriously higher anyway.

        Technically, they should be the lowest of the year, since I'm using neither the heat, nor any fans and/or A/C.
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        • Keeyth
          Crazy Ass Mofo
          • Apr 2004
          • 3010

          #5
          This is getting out of hand...
          Knowing and believing are two very different things.

          It is the difference between the knowledge we accrue... ...and the knowledge we apply.

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          • Angel
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Jan 2004
            • 7481

            #6
            I am so glad I'm in oil country! We get government subsidies for the winter months. The province pays for anything over and above 8.75 per gj.

            With winters that average -20C the heating bills could be NASTY!
            "Ya know what they say about angels... An angel is a supernatural being or spirit, usually humanoid in form, found in various religions and mythologies. Plus Roth fan boards..."- ZahZoo April 2013

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            • Big Train
              Full Member Status

              • Apr 2004
              • 4013

              #7
              Get a wood stove, becoming the cheapest option. A few friends back east did that the last few winters, costs were even. Cords of wood in the fall are cheaper than voliatile prices all winter long.

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              • Big Train
                Full Member Status

                • Apr 2004
                • 4013

                #8
                Originally posted by Angel
                I am so glad I'm in oil country! We get government subsidies for the winter months. The province pays for anything over and above 8.75 per gj.

                With winters that average -20C the heating bills could be NASTY!
                Yea...what WOULD you do without your handouts?

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                • Nitro Express
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 32942

                  #9
                  I'm on a propane tank and that is getting expensive. I have two Vermont castings wood stoves. One in the living room and one downstairs. I have radiant heating in the floors, electric baseboards in the bedrooms and the two wood stoves. Those wood stoves will keep the house comfortable. It's amazing. My house is built out of logs so once you get the logs warm, they house stays warm, even in sub-zero tempuratures.
                  No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                  • scamper
                    Commando
                    • May 2005
                    • 1073

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Big Train
                    Get a wood stove, becoming the cheapest option. A few friends back east did that the last few winters, costs were even. Cords of wood in the fall are cheaper than voliatile prices all winter long.
                    There are some people is this area that bitch about smoke from wood stoves and fireplaces saying they pollute the air, so its inevitable that the government will outlaw them to satisfy the minority.

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                    • ELVIS
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 44120

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nitro Express
                      I'm on a propane tank and that is getting expensive. I have two Vermont castings wood stoves. One in the living room and one downstairs. I have radiant heating in the floors, electric baseboards in the bedrooms and the two wood stoves. Those wood stoves will keep the house comfortable. It's amazing. My house is built out of logs so once you get the logs warm, they house stays warm, even in sub-zero tempuratures.
                      Sounds nice...

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                      • Steve Savicki
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 3937

                        #12
                        Originally posted by The Scatologist
                        Who needs to pay for natural gas when all I have to do is stick a tube up my ass? :D
                        I actually thought about adding something like that, but would let someone else do the commentary LOL!
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                        • WACF
                          Crazy Ass Mofo
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 2920

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Angel
                          I am so glad I'm in oil country! We get government subsidies for the winter months. The province pays for anything over and above 8.75 per gj.

                          With winters that average -20C the heating bills could be NASTY!
                          Saskatchewan is a major natural gas producer yet we just got hit with a 42% increase...as a crown corp. Sask Energy supposedly subsidizes us but it don't seem like it.

                          They are blaming production cuts in the US because of hurricane damage...bastards seem to forget they put the increase request before the rate review panel well before the hurricanes hit. As a supplier we sure get screwed...although we have reached "Have Province" status it does seem like it.

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                          • Angel
                            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 7481

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Big Train
                            Yea...what WOULD you do without your handouts?
                            Tax payers in this province made a lot of sacrifices to pay down our debt. We are now reaping the benefits for those years. It's not a handout, it's what BELONGS to us... The natural gas we use comes out of OUR land! Our lack of debt and our surplus is thanks to the sacrifices we made during the lean times. We are now reaping the benefits of being extremely rich...

                            :D
                            "Ya know what they say about angels... An angel is a supernatural being or spirit, usually humanoid in form, found in various religions and mythologies. Plus Roth fan boards..."- ZahZoo April 2013

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                            • scamper
                              Commando
                              • May 2005
                              • 1073

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Angel
                              Tax payers in this province made a lot of sacrifices to pay down our debt. We are now reaping the benefits for those years. It's not a handout, it's what BELONGS to us... The natural gas we use comes out of OUR land! Our lack of debt and our surplus is thanks to the sacrifices we made during the lean times. We are now reaping the benefits of being extremely rich...

                              :D
                              According to the environmentalists in our country, your raping your land of natural resources and disturbing your wildlife. If it wasn't for them WE would be using natural gas that came from OUR land. I would rather keep most of my money instead of giving it to the government to decide what to do with it.

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