Mauling MacArthur: Time to bring the Old Soldier home?

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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    Mauling MacArthur: Time to bring the Old Soldier home?

    Mauling MacArthur: Time to bring the Old Soldier home?
    Oct 17, 2005
    by Peter Brookes


    This time, South Korea's anti-American crowd has gone too far.

    Uncle Sam-bashing is, unfortunately, quite popular these days among South Korea's left, teachers and youth - burning the Stars and Stripes and massive anti-U.S. street protests are all too common.

    But now South Korean radicals - many of them de facto North Korean pawns - are threatening to tear down the 15-foot tall statue of U.S. Gen. Douglas MacArthur at Inchon, the site of the intrepid landing that changed the course of the bloody Korean War.

    With U.S.-South Korean relations already on the skids from disagreements over North Korea's nuclear program to the future of U.S. troop basing, it's a propitious time to bring our Old Soldier home and place him where he belongs - among other American heroes on the Mall in the nation's capital.

    For the last six months, activists have gathered around MacArthur's statue above Inchon harbor for anti-American/anti-alliance hate-fests, including violent attempts to topple the monument. The latest rally was on Sept. 11, a date plainly chosen to sting Americans.


    Just four days before the 55th anniversary of the Sept. 15, 1950 landing, 4,000 anti-U.S. activists, armed with bamboo poles and metal pipes, led assaults on the statue in Inchon's Freedom Park, calling MacArthur "a war criminal who massacred numerous [Korean] civilians."

    Pro-American Koreans have spoken up, too. Indeed, 10,000 of them, including South Korean Marine vets, headed to Inchon on the 15th to guard the statue on the anniversary - at which point the protestors wimped out, pulling a no-show.

    How quickly the Korean anti-American crowd forgets the facts of "The Forgotten War" ...

    Without the genius of MacArthur's Inchon landing, the U.S.-South Korean forces then pinned down outside the southern city of Pusan would've certainly been pushed into the sea, ceding the entire Korean peninsula to Kim Il Sung's Soviet-backed communists.

    Without Gen. MacArthur's wartime leadership and the service of nearly 2 million U.S. troops - and the death of 37,000 Americans - the Republic of Korea, now one of the world's most vibrant democracies and largest economies (11th largest), wouldn't exist today.

    Actually, MacArthur liberated Korea twice - the first time, at the end of World War II, from a 35-year Japanese occupation and, then, from North Korean, Chinese and Soviet communist aggression during the Korean War.

    It wasn't just Americans and Korean vets that the protestors offended. The U.K. ambassador to South Korea said that any attack on the MacArthur statue denigrates soldiers from the 20 nations who fought and died under MacArthur's U.N. command so that South Korea would remain free.

    Instead of unprecedented peace and prosperity, 48 million South Koreans might instead be enslaved today in Kim Jong Il's police state. Famine is a daily reality in North Korea; over 200,000 live in political prison camps. It would be worthwhile for the protestors to remember that.

    Yet last month's assault on MacArthur's statue won't be the last. At some point, the radicals may actually be able to pull down the monument, offending Korean vets and millions of Americans who have selflessly served - or serve - in South Korea to protect freedom a long way from home and family.

    MacArthur was far from perfect, but he's a genuine American hero: highly-decorated WWI vet, WWII Medal of Honor recipient, postwar leader of occupied Japan and, arguably, America's greatest solider. He deserves better than to have his name tarnished and monument assaulted.

    MacArthur isn't buried in Arlington National Cemetery, as so many American heroes are, but in Norfolk, Va., alongside his second wife in a small museum dedicated to his memory. It's time to bring a MacArthur monument to Washington, D.C.

    It's upsetting, if understandable, that (some) Koreans don't want MacArthur's statue standing at Inchon - and it's their country, after all. So let's bring him home where he'll be appreciated, placing the statue of the Old Soldier at an appropriate place: the Korean War Veterans Memorial on the Mall in the nation's capital.



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  • knuckleboner
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • Jan 2004
    • 2927

    #2
    Re: Mauling MacArthur: Time to bring the Old Soldier home?

    Originally posted by BigBadBrian
    Mauling MacArthur: Time to bring the Old Soldier home?
    Oct 17, 2005
    by Peter Brookes


    arguably, America's greatest solider.
    coughaudiemurphycough...

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49330

      #3
      Dupe!

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      • BigBadBrian
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Jan 2004
        • 10625

        #4
        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
        Dupe!
        Nope!
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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 59101

          #5
          If it is, I can't find the original thread.

          Got a link, Nick?
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          • BigBadBrian
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Jan 2004
            • 10625

            #6
            Originally posted by FORD
            If it is, I can't find the original thread.

            Got a link, Nick?
            The op-ed is new, and therefore not a dupe. :p


            If they don't want the General, fine.

            Bring him home here to Norfolk where he and his wife is buried and where his memorial is.
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            • Nitro Express
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 32865

              #7
              My dad still has health problems from fighting in the infantry during that war. He actually named me after Douglas Mac Arther. If the Koreans don't want that statue then send it to me. I'll put it up on my ranch because my dad who spilled his blood fighting for those people named me after the famouse general.
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              • BITEYOASS
                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                • Jan 2004
                • 6530

                #8
                Fuck em! Let em eat dogs with they're new friend Kim Il-Jong if they want to. But I sure hope most Koreans come to they're senses and start executing these commies.

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49330

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                  Nope!
                  Originally posted by FORD
                  If it is, I can't find the original thread.

                  Got a link, Nick?
                  I stand corrected.

                  I thought I read something similar in this forum, but it must have been in a newspaper or on the internet...

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49330

                    #10
                    Yes well, Gen. Doug MacArthur was a bit of an ego maniac that got our asses spanked by the angry hoards of Red Chinamen at the Chosen Reservoir...

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                    • knuckleboner
                      Crazy Ass Mofo
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 2927

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BITEYOASS
                      But I sure hope most Koreans come to they're senses and start executing these commies.
                      dude, it's the OTHER side that executes people who don't think the right way...

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                      • BigBadBrian
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 10625

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                        Yes well, Gen. Doug MacArthur was a bit of an ego maniac that got our asses spanked by the angry hoards of Red Chinamen at the Chosen Reservoir...
                        That is spelled CHOSIN.

                        Do some reading on that battle.

                        I have. Any reading you have done on the subject is evidently cursory.

                        Legendary exploits of the US Marine and Army units involved against 10 to 1 odds.
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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49330

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                          That is spelled CHOSIN.


                          I'm pretty sure either spelling is correct.

                          Do some reading on that battle.

                          I have. Any reading you have done on the subject is evidently cursory.

                          Legendary exploits of the US Marine and Army units involved against 10 to 1 odds.
                          I have actually, and they Chinese still caught us with our pants down, largely because MacArthur was too stubborn and arrogant to pay attention to the ever increasing Chinese infiltration until it was too late. And there was a great deal of heroism on both sides. The Chinese Reds outnumbered UN troops, but they also had little artillery or air cover (which is what ultimately saved the American Army and Marines).

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                          • BigBadBrian
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 10625

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                            I'm pretty sure either spelling is correct.
                            Maybe among those that wish to spell it incorrectly.



                            I have actually, and they Chinese still caught us with our pants down, largely because MacArthur was too stubborn and arrogant to pay attention to the ever increasing Chinese infiltration until it was too late. And there was a great deal of heroism on both sides. The Chinese Reds outnumbered UN troops, but they also had little artillery or air cover (which is what ultimately saved the American Army and Marines).

                            You need little Heroism, or artillery as the Chinese thought, when you have an overwhelming advantage.
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                            • Nickdfresh
                              SUPER MODERATOR

                              • Oct 2004
                              • 49330

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                              Maybe among those that wish to spell it incorrectly.


                              Like the US Army, 2ID's web page?


                              It's translated, phonetically, from Korean...


                              You need little Heroism, or artillery as the Chinese thought, when you have an overwhelming advantage.
                              The the current US Military has little heroism you are saying?
                              Last edited by Nickdfresh; 10-17-2005, 09:12 PM.

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