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  • High Life Man
    Commando
    • Jan 2004
    • 1286

    Andy Rooney needs to die

    Fucking old bastard. Take Robert Byrd and Ted Kennedy and perish already.

    Our soldiers in Iraq aren't heroes

    4/12/2004

    By ANDY ROONEY

    Most of the reporting from Iraq is about death and destruction. We don't learn much about what our soldiers in Iraq are thinking or doing. There's no Ernie Pyle to tell us, and, if there were, the military would make it difficult or impossible for him to let us know.
    It would be interesting to have a reporter ask a group of our soldiers in Iraq to answer five questions and see the results:

    1. Do you think your country did the right thing sending you into Iraq?

    2. Are you doing what America set out to do to make Iraq a democracy, or have we failed so badly that we should pack up and get out before more of you are killed?

    3. Do the orders you get handed down from one headquarters to another, all far removed from the fighting, seem sensible, or do you think our highest command is out of touch with the reality of your situation?

    4. If you could have a medal or a trip home, which would you take?

    5. Are you encouraged by all the talk back home about how brave you are and how everyone supports you?

    Treating soldiers fighting their war as brave heroes is an old civilian trick designed to keep the soldiers at it. But you can be sure our soldiers in Iraq are not all brave heroes gladly risking their lives for us sitting comfortably back here at home.

    Our soldiers in Iraq are people, young men and women, and they behave like people - sometimes good and sometimes bad, sometimes brave, sometimes fearful. It's disingenuous of the rest of us to encourage them to fight this war by idolizing them.

    We pin medals on their chests to keep them going. We speak of them as if they volunteered to risk their lives to save ours, but there isn't much voluntary about what most of them have done. A relatively small number are professional soldiers. During the last few years, when millions of jobs disappeared, many young people, desperate for some income, enlisted in the Army. About 40 percent of our soldiers in Iraq enlisted in the National Guard or the Army Reserve to pick up some extra money and never thought they'd be called on to fight. They want to come home.

    One indication that not all soldiers in Iraq are happy warriors is the report recently released by the Army showing that 23 of them committed suicide there last year. This is a dismaying figure. If 22 young men and one woman killed themselves because they couldn't take it, think how many more are desperately unhappy but unwilling to die.

    We must support our soldiers in Iraq because it's our fault they're risking their lives there. However, we should not bestow the mantle of heroism on all of them for simply being where we sent them. Most are victims, not heroes.

    America's intentions are honorable. I believe that, and we must find a way of making the rest of the world believe it. We want to do the right thing. We care about the rest of the world. President Bush's intentions were honorable when he took us into Iraq. They were not well thought out but honorable.

    Bush's determination to make the evidence fit the action he took, which it does not, has made things look worse. We pay lip service to the virtues of openness and honesty, but for some reason, we too often act as though there was a better way of handling a bad situation than by being absolutely open and honest.

  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    #2
    They all volunteered to be part of the United States military...

    Shut up Andy!

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    • BigBadBrian
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Jan 2004
      • 10625

      #3
      Originally posted by ELVIS

      Shut up Andy!
      “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 59541

        #4
        It would appear that you guys are getting hung up on the headline of the article and missing what Rooney is actually saying.

        He's not blaming the troops. He's blaming the BCE for starting a stupid and unneccesary war, not letting the troops come home when they are supposed to, and fucking up the economy in the first place to the point where the military was the only employment option available.

        You guys who have been in the service know damn well that most of those who sign up in a "peacetime" military do so to pay for their college, etc. and don't ever have any intentions of actually doing combat. And yes, that's their gamble for volunteering in the first place. But it's not their fault that a corrupt government started an illegal war.

        Put the blame where it belongs..... On this filthy lying criminal fucking moronic piece of shit.....

        Eat Us And Smile

        Cenk For America 2024!!

        Justice Democrats


        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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        • BigBadBrian
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Jan 2004
          • 10625

          #5
          Originally posted by FORD

          You guys who have been in the service know damn well that most of those who sign up in a "peacetime" military do so to pay for their college, etc. and don't ever have any intentions of actually doing combat.
          Shut the fuck up. You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Yeah, we all signed up to play boyscouts and go camping.
          “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 59541

            #6
            Originally posted by BigBadBrian
            Shut the fuck up. You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Yeah, we all signed up to play boyscouts and go camping.
            I said "most", didn't I ?

            In your case, it was probably watching Rambo movies too many times
            Eat Us And Smile

            Cenk For America 2024!!

            Justice Democrats


            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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            • ELVIS
              Banned
              • Dec 2003
              • 44120

              #7
              Originally posted by FORD
              It would appear that you guys are getting hung up on the headline of the article and missing what Rooney is actually saying.


              Never underestimate me!

              I read everything...

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              • ELVIS
                Banned
                • Dec 2003
                • 44120

                #8
                Originally posted by FORD
                .

                You guys who have been in the service know damn well that most of those who sign up in a "peacetime" military do so to pay for their college, etc. and don't ever have any intentions of actually doing combat.

                Fuck you.. I'll tell my dad what you said asshole...

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                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 59541

                  #9
                  What does your dad have to do with this?
                  Eat Us And Smile

                  Cenk For America 2024!!

                  Justice Democrats


                  "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                  • BITEYOASS
                    ROTH ARMY ELITE
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 6530

                    #10
                    Regardless of whether I agree or disagree with Andy Rooney. You gotta admit that most of the lead reporters on 60 minutes need to fuckin retire already!!! Shit, the youngest member is Lesley Stahl, and she is over 50!!! Get some younger, hotter looking reporters in there for christ sakes!

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                    • High Life Man
                      Commando
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 1286

                      #11
                      Rooney's an idiot for even including that line in his editorial.

                      And believe me, most people know what the hell they are signing up for...

                      ...it's the few loud ones and their cunty mothers that the press love to cover.

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                      • BITEYOASS
                        ROTH ARMY ELITE
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 6530

                        #12
                        Shit I joined the USMC to avoid going to college. Only thing I'm pissed off about my time is that I never got to deploy. My old squadron at MCAS Yuma always sent those who didn't even want to go. If it wasn't for the Corps, I'd be stuck in that shitty town of Jackson, Michigan for the rest of my fuckin life! Plus I wouldn't have been able to earn money to purchase that ticket to see DLR in Vegas on July, 3'rd 2001; 4 rows from the fuckin stage, lost a couple hundred on the roulette wheel, woke up with a hangover from hell the next morning and met Diamond Dave in person, NOW THOSE ARE FUCKIN MEMORIES!!!! Don't believe me, ask Sarge!

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                        • ELVIS
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 44120

                          #13
                          Originally posted by FORD
                          What does your dad have to do with this?
                          My dad's a 30 year military man that thinks complainers like you should leave the country..

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                          • BigBadBrian
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 10625

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BITEYOASS
                            Shit I joined the USMC to avoid going to college. Only thing I'm pissed off about my time is that I never got to deploy. My old squadron at MCAS Yuma always sent those who didn't even want to go. If it wasn't for the Corps, I'd be stuck in that shitty town of Jackson, Michigan for the rest of my fuckin life! Plus I wouldn't have been able to earn money to purchase that ticket to see DLR in Vegas on July, 3'rd 2001; 4 rows from the fuckin stage, lost a couple hundred on the roulette wheel, woke up with a hangover from hell the next morning and met Diamond Dave in person, NOW THOSE ARE FUCKIN MEMORIES!!!! Don't believe me, ask Sarge!
                            Cool!
                            “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                            • Viking
                              Veteran
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 1774

                              #15
                              Don't worry - that old cock is going to die soon enough. Besides, the average age of your 60 Minutes viewer is - I kid you not - SEVENTY. Cold statistical fact. We're talking Social Security-drawing, polyester pant-wearing, shit-their-Depends old fossils. The same ones that grew up having their way paved to the grave by FDR's New Deal (READ: massive taxes and a bazillion new federal programs - the Genesis of America's current domestic slavery. Roosevelt thought Stalin was just a good-hearted bureaucrat with crowd control issues. Pinko twat.).

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