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  • ELVIS
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    • Dec 2003
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    God sees embryos as full and complete humans - Pope

    Dec 28, 2005



    VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - God sees embryos as "full and complete" humans, Pope Benedict said on Wednesday in an address that firmly underlined the Roman Catholic Church's stance against abortion and scientific research on embryos.

    "The loving eyes of God look on the human being, considered full and complete at its beginning," Benedict said in his weekly address to the faithful gathered in St. Peter's Square.

    Quoting Psalm 139, Benedict said the Bible teaches that God already recognises the embryo as a complete human. That view is the basis for the Church teaching that aborting or manipulating these embryos amounts to murder.

    In Psalm 139, the psalmist says to God: "Thou didst see my limbs unformed in the womb, and in thy book they are all recorded."

    "It is extremely powerful, the idea in this psalm, that in this 'unformed' embryo God already sees the whole future," Benedict said.

    "In the Lord's book of life, the days that this creature will live and will fill with works during his time on earth are already written."

    Benedict has already weighed into an Italian debate on abortion ahead of a general election in April, publicly supporting a pro-life group that right-wing Health Minister Francesco Storace wants to have access to counselling centres advising women seeking to terminate pregnancy.

    The Pontiff also raised the theme in his Christmas Eve mass on Saturday, saying the love of God shines on each child, "even on those still unborn".

    As well as being against abortion in all cases, the Church opposes stem-cell research which extracts useful cells from unused embryos left over from fertility treatments.

    The United States Congress is debating whether to expand federal funding for this kind of research, which scientists say could provide cures to many debilitating diseases.



    Last edited by ELVIS; 12-28-2005, 02:41 PM.
  • kentuckyklira
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    • Sep 2004
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    #2
    An old man who doesn´t know what his dick is good for and believes a troublemaker who got himself nailed to a tree 2000 years ago was the son of god isn´t telling me how to lead any aspect of my life!
    http://images.zeit.de/gesellschaft/z...ie-540x304.jpg

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    • Nickdfresh
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      • Oct 2004
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      #3
      And ELVIS only sees them as human if they're white, Christen Americans...

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      • kentuckyklira
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        • Sep 2004
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        #4
        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
        And ELVIS only sees them as human if they're white, Christen Americans...
        Explains a lot!
        http://images.zeit.de/gesellschaft/z...ie-540x304.jpg

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        • ELVIS
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          • Dec 2003
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          #5
          Christen ??

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          • kentuckyklira
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            • Sep 2004
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            #6
            Originally posted by ELVIS
            Christen ??
            He can go confess the typo, then it´ll be as if it never happened.

            Worked for Adolf Eichman too, although that was a bit more than a typo!
            http://images.zeit.de/gesellschaft/z...ie-540x304.jpg

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            • jhale667
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              • Aug 2004
              • 20929

              #7
              Originally posted by kentuckyklira
              He can go confess the typo, then it´ll be as if it never happened.

              Worked for Adolf Eichman too, although that was a bit more than a typo!

              Wow...he's the papal equivalent of Robert C. Byrd..."No, I USED TO BE a scumbag....I'm different now!" Much like Byrd, I'll try to give him the benefit of the doubt. But I love how Christianity's answer for something they can't possibly PROVE is always "God knows all, sees all"...
              Originally posted by conmee
              If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

              That is all.

              Icon.
              Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
              I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


              Originally posted by Isaac R.
              Then it's really true??

              The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

              OMFG...who in their right mind...???
              Originally posted by eddie78
              I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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              • blueturk
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                • Jul 2004
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                #8
                Sure, Elvis. If the leader of a church that is famous for shuffling child molesters around so they can molest even more children says it, it must be so. Remember Bernard Law? Or am I giving you too much credit?

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                • Unchainme
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 7746

                  #9
                  Hmmmmmm, According to the Bible the minute we are out of the womb we are introduced into sin and it is only by accepting Jesus that we are saved.So techinically according to Christianity they are not humans until they are auctually out of the Womb. Now That being said I am very mixed on this issue.
                  Still waiting for a relevant Browns Team

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                  • jhale667
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                    • Aug 2004
                    • 20929

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unchainme
                    Hmmmmmm, According to the Bible the minute we are out of the womb we are introduced into sin and it is only by accepting Jesus that we are saved.So techinically according to Christianity they are not humans until they are auctually out of the Womb. Now That being said I am very mixed on this issue.

                    He's got a point there....
                    Originally posted by conmee
                    If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                    That is all.

                    Icon.
                    Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                    I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                    Originally posted by Isaac R.
                    Then it's really true??

                    The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                    OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                    Originally posted by eddie78
                    I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                    • Nickdfresh
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                      • Oct 2004
                      • 49643

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ELVIS
                      Christen ??
                      Means they're phoney Christians, like somebody we know.

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                      • ELVIS
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 44120

                        #12
                        Originally posted by blueturk
                        Sure, Elvis. If the leader of a church that is famous for shuffling child molesters around so they can molest even more children says it, it must be so. Remember Bernard Law? Or am I giving you too much credit?
                        Just because I post an article, doesn't mean I support it...

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                        • LoungeMachine
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                          • Jul 2004
                          • 32576

                          #13
                          I have a simple, yet serious question for ALL Christians who support the anti-abortion stance.....

                          The Catholic Church, as well as other of your organizations are worth literally BILLIONS, if not Trillions......

                          IF, as the Pope suggests, each fetus is a sacred human life, why not devote a large portion of your great wealth to the care, raising, and education of said fetuses????????????

                          ELVIS?

                          Care to comment?
                          Originally posted by Kristy
                          Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                          Originally posted by cadaverdog
                          I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                          • jhale667
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                            • Aug 2004
                            • 20929

                            #14
                            Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                            I have a simple, yet serious question for ALL Christians who support the anti-abortion stance.....

                            The Catholic Church, as well as other of your organizations are worth literally BILLIONS, if not Trillions......

                            IF, as the Pope suggests, each fetus is a sacred human life, why not devote a large portion of your great wealth to the care, raising, and education of said fetuses????????????

                            ELVIS?

                            Care to comment?
                            I've asked that same question. It frustrates me that the anti-abortionists are all against terminating an unwanted pregnancy, yet they couldn't give a shit (it seems) once said unwanted child is brought into the world....how many kids are there RIGHT NOW in foster homes wishing someone gave a shit...?

                            Originally posted by conmee
                            If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                            That is all.

                            Icon.
                            Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                            I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                            Originally posted by Isaac R.
                            Then it's really true??

                            The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                            OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                            Originally posted by eddie78
                            I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                            • LoungeMachine
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 32576

                              #15
                              So true, jhale....

                              Answer?

                              More Muff Thread !!!!!!!!!!!
                              Originally posted by Kristy
                              Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                              Originally posted by cadaverdog
                              I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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