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  • Nickdfresh
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    • Oct 2004
    • 49352

    Bill O'Reilly: The American Imam of the radical Madrases?

    O'Reilly's campaign against murdered doctor
    The Fox News star had compared Tiller to a Nazi, called him a "baby killer," and warned of "Judgment Day"


    By Gabriel Winant

    May. 31, 2009 |

    When his show airs tomorrow, Bill O'Reilly will most certainly decry the death of Kansas doctor George Tiller, who was killed Sunday while attending church services with his wife. Tiller, O'Reilly will say, was a man who was guilty of barbaric acts, but a civilized society does not resort to lawless murder, even against its worst members. And O'Reilly, we can assume, will genuinely mean this.

    But there's no other person who bears as much responsibility for the characterization of Tiller as a savage on the loose, killing babies willy-nilly thanks to the collusion of would-be sophisticated cultural elites, a bought-and-paid-for governor and scofflaw secular journalists. Tiller's name first appeared on "The Factor" on Feb. 25, 2005. Since then, O'Reilly and his guest hosts have brought up the doctor on 28 more episodes, including as recently as April 27 of this year. Almost invariably, Tiller is described as "Tiller the Baby Killer."

    Tiller, O'Reilly likes to say, "destroys fetuses for just about any reason right up until the birth date for $5,000." He's guilty of "Nazi stuff," said O'Reilly on June 8, 2005; a moral equivalent to NAMBLA and al-Qaida, he suggested on March 15, 2006. "This is the kind of stuff happened in Mao's China, Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Soviet Union," said O'Reilly on Nov. 9, 2006.

    O'Reilly has also frequently linked Tiller to his longtime obsession, child molestation and rape. Because a young teenager who received an abortion from Tiller could, by definition, have been a victim of statutory rape, O'Reilly frequently suggested that the clinic was covering up for child rapists (rather than teenage boyfriends) by refusing to release records on the abortions performed.

    When Kansas Attorney General Phill Kline, an O'Reilly favorite who faced harsh criticism for seeking Tiller's records, was facing electoral defeat by challenger Paul Morrison, O'Reilly said, "Now we don't endorse candidates here, but obviously, that would be a colossal mistake. Society must afford some protection for viable babies and children who are raped." (Morrison ultimately unseated Kline.)

    This is where O'Reilly's campaign against George Tiller becomes dangerous. While he never advocated anything violent or illegal, the Fox bully repeatedly portrayed the doctor as a murderer on the loose, allowed to do whatever he wanted by corrupt and decadent authorities. "Also, it looks like Dr. Tiller, who some call Tiller the Baby Killer, is spending a large amount of money in order to get Mr. Morrison elected. That opens up all kinds of questions," said O'Reilly on Nov. 6, 2006, in one of many suggestions that Tiller was improperly influencing the election.

    Tiller's excuses for performing late-term abortions, O'Reilly suggested, were frou-frou, New Age, false ailments: The woman might have a headache or anxiety, or have been dumped by her boyfriend. She might be "depressed," scoffed O'Reilly, which he dismissed as "feeling a bit blue and carr[ying] a certified check." There was, he proposed on Jan. 5, 2007, a kind of elite conspiracy of silence on Tiller. "Yes, OK, but we know about the press. But it becomes a much more intense problem when you have a judge, confronted with evidence of criminal wrongdoing, who throws it out on some technicality because he wants to be liked at the country club. Then it's intense."

    Tiller, said O'Reilly on Jan. 6 of this year, was a major supporter of then-Gov. Kathleen Sebelius. "I think it's unfairly characterized as just a grip and grin relationship. He was a pretty big supporter of hers." She had cashed her campaign check from Tiller, "doesn't seem to be real upset about this guy operating a death mill, which is exactly what it is in her state, does she?" he asked on July 14 of last year. "Maybe she'll -- maybe she'll pardon him," he scoffed two months ago.

    This is where it gets most troubling. O'Reilly's language describing Tiller, and accusing the state and its elites of complicity in his actions, could become extremely vivid. On June 12, 2007, he said, "Yes, I think we all know what this is. And if the state of Kansas doesn't stop this man, then anybody who prevents that from happening has blood on their hands as the governor does right now, Governor Sebelius."

    Three days later, he added, "No question Dr. Tiller has blood on his hands. But now so does Governor Sebelius. She is not fit to serve. Nor is any Kansas politician who supports Tiller's business of destruction. I wouldn't want to be these people if there is a Judgment Day. I just -- you know ... Kansas is a great state, but this is a disgrace upon everyone who lives in Kansas. Is it not?"

    This characterization of Tiller fits exactly into ancient conservative, paranoid stories: a decadent, permissive and callous elite tolerates moral monstrosities that every common-sense citizen just knows to be awful. Conspiring against our folk wisdom, O'Reilly says, the sophisticates have shielded Tiller from the appropriate, legal consequences for his deeds. It's left to "judgment day" to give him what's coming.

    O'Reilly didn't tell anyone to do anything violent, but he did put Tiller in the public eye, and help make him the focus of a movement with a history of violence against exactly these kinds of targets (including Tiller himself, who had already been shot). In those circumstances, flinging around words like "blood on their hands," "pardon," "country club" and "judgment day" was sensationally irresponsible.

    Watch excerpts of O'Reilly's attacks on Tiller at the link on Salon.com
  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 59181

    #2
    I suggest we waterboard these terrorists immediately.....


    Scott Roeder - terrorist murderer


    Randall Terry - terrorist organizer


    Bill O'Reilly - terrorist propagandist
    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

    Justice Democrats


    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49352

      #3
      I hope his family sues the fuck out of O'Really?...

      And I think they might just win...

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      • thome
        ROTH ARMY ELITE
        • Mar 2005
        • 6678

        #4
        By Gabriel Winant

        Her op about something that has no other meaning, more than, a chance for O'Rielly haters to want to see, O'Rielly dead.

        I am sure the other news stations over the last 40 years of this doctors, -life in the press- should be involved in the class action suit against the, O'Rielly and Free Press.

        I think this has little to do with -The Doctor- and more like a witch hunt against O'Rielly, and a chance to also slip in some anti republican retoric.

        I think Ms. Winant is more of a hate promoter than she even sees.

        But, she got her editorial op piece posted and got the check by now .

        If something happends to Bill can we sue her..?.. as far as she is concerned, she is already a, "person of interest" if anything dastardly happends to O'Rielly.

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        • Big Train
          Full Member Status

          • Apr 2004
          • 4013

          #5
          So if someone murders O'Reilly because they have watched Olbermann make him out to be the Antichrist for years now, will he get the same treatment?

          So opposing someone's viewpoint and actions, even being colorful "blood on your hands" kinds of comments (which let's face it, Olby, Hannity, Maddow, Dobbs, Cafferty, Matthews) they all say, now equates to be an Imam of hate speech? C,mon now...

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          • Nickdfresh
            SUPER MODERATOR

            • Oct 2004
            • 49352

            #6
            Originally posted by Big Train
            So if someone murders O'Reilly because they have watched Olbermann make him out to be the Antichrist for years now, will he get the same treatment?
            Nobody's murdered O'Reilly. And I've failed to hear the inflammatory language of "baby killer," "murder," etc...

            So opposing someone's viewpoint and actions, even being colorful "blood on your hands" kinds of comments (which let's face it, Olby, Hannity, Maddow, Dobbs, Cafferty, Matthews) they all say, now equates to be an Imam of hate speech? C,mon now...
            Oh please, he continuously listed the guys address, harassed him, and "ambushed" him with a camera crew and all but carried out a campaign against him not that different than Goebbels Antisemitic propaganda of distortion...

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            • Big Train
              Full Member Status

              • Apr 2004
              • 4013

              #7
              Right, and being characterized night after night, week after week, by Olby as the "Worst Person In the World" is not along those same lines?

              So your REALLY willing to make the leap that O'Reilly is to blame for this man's death?

              All I'm saying is it's stupid to call it hate speech and even more so to say his hate speech is any worse than any other reporter. That is hypocritical. Not to mention the ACLU's fav phrase "it's a slippery slope".

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              • LoungeMachine
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Jul 2004
                • 32576

                #8
                Originally posted by Big Train

                All I'm saying is it's stupid to call it hate speech and even more so to say his hate speech is any worse than any other reporter. That is hypocritical. Not to mention the ACLU's fav phrase "it's a slippery slope".
                What's "stupid", is to call O'Reilly a "reporter"

                Originally posted by Kristy
                Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                Originally posted by cadaverdog
                I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                • thome
                  ROTH ARMY ELITE
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 6678

                  #9
                  standin, just came all the way over here to throw a pie in my face and groan at me without commenting within this thread at all.

                  Does that quantify as a comment; to simply groan at my comment, or is this a attack on my personality presence,,>>??

                  If I "wake up dead" or you "find me gone missing"..I want you all to, fukking sue standin...or s=neak in the alley with sally .

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                  • LoungeMachine
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 32576

                    #10
                    Congratulations thome.....

                    You just gave her exactly what she wanted. Well done.

                    Originally posted by Kristy
                    Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                    Originally posted by cadaverdog
                    I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                    • thome
                      ROTH ARMY ELITE
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 6678

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                      Congratulations thome.....

                      You just gave her exactly what she wanted. Well done.

                      After reading your comment:

                      I just ran all over the house looking for my wallet.

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                      • GAR
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 10881

                        #12
                        "who some call Tiller the Killer" is a quotation, dumbass.

                        When you're story includes someone's quote, you don't have to append the slander of others as your own opinion.

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                        • binnie
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • May 2006
                          • 19145

                          #13
                          The is a bitter irony in pro-lifer's killing doctors.

                          If it wasn't so repulsive it'd make me howl with laughter...
                          The Power Of The Riff Compels Me

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 59181

                            #14
                            Originally posted by binnie
                            The is a bitter irony in pro-lifer's killing doctors.

                            If it wasn't so repulsive it'd make me howl with laughter...
                            Not only that, but most of them are also pro-war and pro-death penalty.

                            Guess "pro-life" only applies BEFORE you're born.
                            Eat Us And Smile

                            Cenk For America 2024!!

                            Justice Democrats


                            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                            • thome
                              ROTH ARMY ELITE
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 6678

                              #15
                              and ... Most pro-abortionists are anti war..whodd'a thunk it..?

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