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  • standin
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    • Apr 2009
    • 2274

    A hate crime or simply a crime?

    Inside story discusses the motivation behind the killing of Marwa al-sherbini.
    An Egyptian Muslim woman was killed in a German courtroom by a man convicted of insulting her religion.

    The brutal killing of the pregnant Marwa Al Sherbini, 32, raised a lot of questions about the rise of right wing fanatics in Europe.

    Al Sherbini was stabbed 18 times by a German man of Russian descent, formally identified only as Axel W, last week as she was about to give evidence against him as he appealled against his conviction for calling her a "terrorist" for her wearing the headscarf (hijab).

    While the German authorities focus on court security, we ask, what about the underlying problem - the motivation behind the attack.

    Inside Story discusses with guests: Maleiha Malik, a professor of law at King's college London, and author of "Anti Muslim prejudice: past and present"; Sulaiman Wilms, a media spokes person for European Muslim council and editor of the German language newspaper and Douglas Murray, a director of the centre for social cohesion, and author of "Neoconservatism: why we need it".
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    To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
    MICHAEL G. MULLEN
  • standin
    Veteran
    • Apr 2009
    • 2274

    #2
    Wish I could find my quote....but I'll try to remember it....


    You may choose to wear V-flashing, thigh riding, ultra-mini skirt, bosom-popping bustier as glorification of female, others may choose to modest, protective, non-divulging attire.
    And anywhere among those two.


    I think that is close....
    To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
    MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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    • standin
      Veteran
      • Apr 2009
      • 2274

      #3
      The more I think about this the more I my brow furrows.....

      How does one manage to be able to take 18 stabs in a court room???

      It takes longer than a second for a stab stroke to occur.....

      Was that a arranged killing by that judge? Was the bailiff in on it? Who else stood by and watched a murder occur that took as longer than a commercial to occur. Even when lazy, I could make it to the TV to manually turn the channel when a bad commercial came on.

      I think that district of Germany harbors arrogant corruption. Corruption that thinks they can arrange a lynching .
      To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
      MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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      • Blackflag
        Banned
        • Apr 2006
        • 3406

        #4
        Uh... what?

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        • standin
          Veteran
          • Apr 2009
          • 2274

          #5
          you heard me!
          How can any one manage 18 stabs (over a half a minute of carnage) in setting? legal or other wise?
          To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
          MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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          • Dolemite!
            Banned
            • Jun 2009
            • 689

            #6
            Whether you have some kind of point in there or not, your less than coherent posts are awful enough that I'm going to take the trouble of logging in for the sole purpose of groaning at it.

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            • binnie
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • May 2006
              • 19145

              #7
              It's just very, very sad. Small mindedness coupled with aggression..........
              The Power Of The Riff Compels Me

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              • ZahZoo
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Jan 2004
                • 9079

                #8
                Clearly a hate crime...
                "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                • sadaist
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 11625

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ZahZoo
                  Clearly a hate crime...
                  No such thing.
                  “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                  • letsrock
                    Veteran
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 1595

                    #10
                    Originally posted by standin
                    you heard me!
                    How can any one manage 18 stabs (over a half a minute of carnage) in setting? legal or other wise?
                    Totally agree, something stinks.

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                    • standin
                      Veteran
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 2274

                      #11
                      Originally posted by standin
                      Wish I could find my quote....but I'll try to remember it....


                      You may choose to wear V-flashing, thigh riding, ultra-mini skirt, bosom-popping bustier as glorification of female, others may choose to modest, protective, non-divulging attire.
                      And anywhere among those two.


                      I think that is close....
                      Originally posted by Dolemite!
                      Whether you have some kind of point in there or not, your less than coherent posts are awful enough that I'm going to take the trouble of logging in for the sole purpose of groaning at it.
                      What part of that did you not understand?

                      Grant it, I did not explicitly say "Woman may choose" instead of "you may choose" . But men can choose these things too, I forgot cross-dressers. Furthermore, men could choose to dress in men descriptive clothes in the same fashion describe for woman in the above quote.
                      To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
                      MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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                      • Guitar Shark
                        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 7579

                        #12
                        Originally posted by standin
                        What part of that did you not understand?

                        Grant it, I did not explicitly say "Woman may choose" instead of "you may choose" . But men can choose these things too, I forgot cross-dressers. Furthermore, men could choose to dress in men descriptive clothes in the same fashion describe for woman in the above quote.
                        Kindly refrain from being strange. Thank you.
                        ROTH ARMY MILITIA


                        Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                        Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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                        • FORD
                          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 59245

                          #13
                          Does seem a little odd that someone could get away with repeated stabbing in a courtroom. First of all, would nobody think to search a convicted felon for weapons before he entered a court room? And at the first display of said weapon, let alone the first stab, shouldn't someone have taken the bastard down?
                          Eat Us And Smile

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                          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                          • standin
                            Veteran
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 2274

                            #14
                            Well, in defense of the German court system, their security is weak. The reason why the weapon got in, they have not had to address court room violence like we have in America.

                            But 18 times is a huge number of stab strokes.

                            I know I could not have sat by and not attempt to help the woman.

                            I for one want to know account for account the exact time line of that event.

                            Dr. Sherbini is gone, but others will have to use that district's court systems. And if corruption is so bad there that a lynching took place, it needs to be brought to the sunlight.
                            To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
                            MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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                            • standin
                              Veteran
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 2274

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Guitar Shark
                              Kindly refrain from being strange. Thank you.
                              What's strange about that?
                              It's the cross-dressers. Isn't it? You think cross-dressing is strange. I must admit, it is a bit different.
                              To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
                              MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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