U.S. general calls for Afghan strategy shift

[GAR]

There isn't enough opium grown in the states to supply Big Pharma's demand for ingredients.

That's why the vicadins and oxycontins are synthetics

It has to come from somewhere.

So does the Spendulous Bill - but that didn't stop the Democrats from voting for it because the Federal Reserve needs suckers like Democrats to vote for destroying the money supply once it can't get loans from China anymore.

[Terry]

Since the common consensus is that most of Al Queda are reconstituting in Pakistan (which, unlike Afghanistan, has a nuclear capacity)...um...why are we in Afghanistan again?

When did it come to pass that the US became unable to pick the right places to invade?

What was it Orwell wrote...something about the necessity of a totalitarian regime keeping a nation constantly at war...

[Nickdfresh]

Since the common consensus is that most of Al Queda are reconstituting in Pakistan (which, unlike Afghanistan, has a nuclear capacity)...um...why are we in Afghanistan again?

Because we'd be fighting the Pakistani military which has now decided to crack down on their militants and is actually in the long process of controlling their anarchic provinces in Waziristan...

When did it come to pass that the US became unable to pick the right places to invade?

The 9/11 plan was mostly hatched in Afghanistan...

What was it Orwell wrote...something about the necessity of a totalitarian regime keeping a nation constantly at war...

Something like that...

[Blackflag]

bwaaaaaak~!

"XLNT idea.. XLNT idea..
XLNT idea.. "

See, that was funny.

[Nickdfresh]

I'm beginning to believe that the US/NATO effort in Afghanistan is largely futile as we are fighting for a corrupt set of pols not much better than the ones we're fighting against. I think the US needs to either negotiate with the Talubs or begin a withdrawal of most NATO forces (with a number staying as a counterterrorist quick reaction force but largely not involved in the civil war) with a transition of focus on training the Afghan military and especially reforming and retraining the national police and militia forces.

[Nitro Express]

Wrong dude.

They HAVE figued it out, only not to any degree of sucksess. The so-called non-narcotic pain meds cost just as much, do far less, and have even shittier side effects. So much so, that they actually prescribe an additional drug to combat the shitty side effect.

But, that's what happens when Big Pharma does what it wants.

And I'm not so sure Big Pharma isn't buying some of this Afghan opium for it's meds dirt cheap, and selling them to YOU, the consumer at a astronomical, insurance milking markup. There isn't enough opium grown in the states to supply Big Pharma's demand for ingredients. It has to come from somewhere.



BTW...It's VICODIN.

You missed the entire point. They DON"T NEED ORGANIC BASE MATERIAL. They synthesize it in a lab just lie artificial flavoring is synthesized. It's a complex process of breaking down what makes the organic version work to the molecular level and then you synthesize it with manmade chemicals. Virgina Dare does this with their flavorings and big pharma does this with drugs. What's valuable is the formula process. Making the stuff is cheap once you have that figured out. It costs pennies to make the drugs they sell for a fortune once the R&D is covered.

[Seshmeister]

I'm beginning to believe that the US/NATO effort in Afghanistan is largely futile as we are fighting for a corrupt set of pols not much better than the ones we're fighting against. I think the US needs to either negotiate with the Talubs or begin a withdrawal of most NATO forces (with a number staying as a counterterrorist quick reaction force but largely not involved in the civil war) with a transition of focus on training the Afghan military and especially reforming and retraining the national police and militia forces.

Big change in a week but I'm happy you now agree with me.

It's the only sensible option. So now anything up to a thousand American and British kids are going to have to die over the next couple of years for completely and entirely political reasons.

They will all die because our politicians will not accept the chance of a loss of a few percentage points that might come from a withdrawal.

[Nitro Express]

Big change in a week but I'm happy you now agree with me.

It's the only sensible option. So now anything up to a thousand American and British kids are going to have to die over the next couple of years for completely and entirely political reasons.

They will all die because our politicians will not accept the chance of a loss of a few percentage points that might come from a withdrawal.

They are fighting for old men's loot. It reminds me of George Carlin during the Vietnam War saying we can't pull out too soon because that's unmanly, we need to stay in and keep fucking them!