Debra Medina for Texas Governor 2010

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  • Satan
    ROTH ARMY ELITE
    • Jan 2004
    • 6664

    #16
    Originally posted by Nitro Express
    That's a good name for it. Many who participate in the political arena are going to Hell.
    You say that like it's a bad thing?
    Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

    Originally posted by Sockfucker
    I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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    • sadaist
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Jul 2004
      • 11625

      #17
      Originally posted by Kristy
      Well, I'm sold. Nothing like another (assumed) Baptist with no political education and/or no communal skills outside of their job running for office with the sole "beliefs and convictions" (yeah, that rhetoric never grows old) of telling other women what they can and cannot do with their bodies.

      They are telling the women what they can and cannot do with the bodies growing inside of them, rather than the woman's body.
      “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 59439

        #18
        Originally posted by Nitro Express
        I'm not for socialized medicine. I'm for cutting the cost without cutting the quality of the care. One area where we can do this is simplifying the billing procedures. 20-30% of a medical office's cost is billing and paperwork. So she seems to be qualified in an area that needs desperate attention and a fix.
        The irony of your statement is that "socialized medicine" (i.e. single payer) would do exactly that. Because you would have only one insurance entity, and the rules would be the same for everyone. Add computerization of medical records to this (with proper security, of course) and problem solved.
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        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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        • Blackflag
          Banned
          • Apr 2006
          • 3406

          #19
          Originally posted by FORD
          The irony of your statement is that "socialized medicine" (i.e. single payer) would do exactly that. Because you would have only one insurance entity, and the rules would be the same for everyone. Add computerization of medical records to this (with proper security, of course) and problem solved.
          Which is another logical statement, since we all know that prices and service are inversely proportional to competition.

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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 59439

            #20
            Originally posted by Blackflag
            Which is another logical statement, since we all know that prices and service are inversely proportional to competition.
            Well, that's the theoretical rule of the private sector.... which unfortunately doesn't apply in most cases anymore, because most markets are controlled by a handful of price-fixing multinational corporations. The libertarian fantasy of a "free market" doesn't really exist.

            But that's a whole other discussion (anti trust, regulation, etc.)

            One valid factor in lowering insurance costs is the size of the risk "pool". Under a single payer system, that risk pool is EVERYONE. Can't get a bigger pool than that, if you went to an Olympic stadium.
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            Justice Democrats


            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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            • Blackflag
              Banned
              • Apr 2006
              • 3406

              #21
              Originally posted by FORD
              Well, that's the theoretical rule of the private sector.... which unfortunately doesn't apply in most cases anymore, because most markets are controlled by a handful of price-fixing multinational corporations.
              So the concept of competition doesn't apply anymore...because the the lack of competition has proven that it does?

              Originally posted by FORD
              One valid factor in lowering insurance costs is the size of the risk "pool". Under a single payer system, that risk pool is EVERYONE. Can't get a bigger pool than that, if you went to an Olympic stadium.
              I can take that at face value when you're talking about the difference between 10 people and 1 million people.

              But if you're going to say there's a difference between a pool of 20 million people and a pool of 100 million people, you're going to need to bring more support for that theory than just your notoriously bad faculties for reasoning. You're making a mathematical/actuarial argument based on nothing but bullshit.

              There's no reason this can't be done state by state.

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              • Kristy
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 16648

                #22
                Originally posted by sadaist
                They are telling the women what they can and cannot do with the bodies growing inside of them, rather than the woman's body.
                Don't split hairs, it's the same god damn thing.

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49500

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Dr. Love
                  205, 1 is fugly, the other I would totally hit it


                  Well, get the one that's not bad by pretending to become a full bore libertarian. Then get rid of her by hanging a picture of Obama over your desk.

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49500

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Nitro Express
                    I'm not for socialized medicine....
                    Neither is anyone else in this debate...

                    Even the Canadians don't really have "socialized medicine." It's said they have a "socialized insurance pool."

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                    • Nickdfresh
                      SUPER MODERATOR

                      • Oct 2004
                      • 49500

                      #25
                      Originally posted by sadaist
                      They are telling the women what they can and cannot do with the bodies growing inside of them, rather than the woman's body.
                      I prefer it when women tell me what I can do with their bodies.

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                      • kwame k
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 11302

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Kristy
                        Don't split hairs, it's the same god damn thing.
                        Agreed, that decision has to be made by the participants involved in making that difficult decision and not mandated by some governmental group. It's a moral decision, a medical decision and ultimately the person's decision.

                        You can't legislate morality, it doesn't work and has never worked in this country.

                        At the end of the day, no matter how much I find the practice morally repugnant, it's not my place to place my values on other people. If you believe in a God or religion that tells you it is wrong than that's something you'll have to deal with on Judgement Day or if you believe in nothing, than that is a decision you'll have to live with, not me. As far as making it illegal.....well, Prohibition worked out real well for The Mob, The War On Drugs has been a smashing success and so on.
                        Originally posted by vandeleur
                        E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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                        • Guitar Shark
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 7579

                          #27
                          Originally posted by ELVIS
                          Here, have another doughnut.
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                          Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                          Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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                          • Dr. Love
                            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 7833

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Nickdfresh


                            Well, get the one that's not bad by pretending to become a full bore libertarian. Then get rid of her by hanging a picture of Obama over your desk.
                            She has a David Lee Roth grin that's kinda putting me off ... though I do want to see her bozely bozely bops ... if you get what I'm sayin'
                            I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32942

                              #29
                              I think health care should be regulated like the utility companies. They are monopolies and if the government didn't regulate then we would be paying for electricity, water, and gas like we are paying for healthcare. So in a way this is an anti-trust issue. What's difficult about healthcare is there are more variables than a utility. I would say put price caps on catastrophic care because this is where a good share of the abuse is. For standard doctor visits standardized billing would safe a fortune. Then we need regulation of the pharmacutical pricing. We are being gouged in the US big time.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                              • bueno bob
                                DIAMOND STATUS
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 22951

                                #30
                                Originally posted by ELVIS


                                Born in Beeville and raised on a South Texas farm, Debra Medina is a wife and mother, a registered nurse, a businesswoman, a rancher and a fighter.

                                I vote that she gets her bitch ass back in the kitchen and make me some pie.

                                :D
                                Twistin' by the pool.

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