In honor of Martin Luther King

[Nitro Express]

Wait until the Chinese come after you Brits for repayment of the opium wars.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Now THAT is real racism!

Not me saying the N-word just to watch these pussies around here get their panties in a wad...

What an Internet tough guy you are....

[Nitro Express]

Everything on the internet degrades into a fight. People can't even make comments on anything on You Tube without getting in a piss fight. I just got done listening to an economics seminar where the speaker said that when politicians have no answers for the economy they start wars as a distraction and power grab opportunity. The bankers love it because they can make interest funding the wars.

The western economies are collapsing and our politicians are selling us off to China or stealing assets from the people who still have something to steal from. Right now in the US the FDA is regulating small farms out of business so the corporate farms can have it all or politicians are making deals with China to come in and run things.

It's all crazy. I had a friend go over to China to teach English and he was making good money but couldn't take the pollution there and there are no women to date. He found money loses it's luster when the air fucking hurts your lungs.

This whole internationalism thing we were sold over the years is a bunch of bullshit. It's great for investment bankers and multinational corporations and rotten for everyone else. Slavery still continues and imperialism is alive and well. I think China plays along until they get powerful enough they can mop up the west and impale it on it's own greed as a belated thank you for getting them strung out on opium.

Ironically, the US CIA is dealing the opium now instead of the British. As Ford would say, the BCE is alive and well.

Face it, yeah there was slavery and it was wrong, but it's still going on in China and other places and we all enable it by buying their goods. Maybe we want an iPOD or Nike shoes more than to stomp slavery out for good.

The mess is way more international and complicated now than Martin Luther King ever could have dreamed. Slavery has gone international and the plantations are corporations.

[ELVIS]

What an Internet tough guy you are....

What an internet dork you are...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

What an internet dork you are...

Another witty comment....

So if we're pussies for enforcing Sarge's rules, you're basically saying the Sarge is a pussy for making that rule....

[Blaze]

Officially on paper but prejudice is a mental condition that tends to be multi-generational. In the old south they were scared to death of the black man because there were more slaves than free white people. They hated Lincoln for invading the south with a military and resented the blacks getting their freedom from him. When you are a kid and you grow up in this environment you tend to be that yourself until you are put in a situation where you are shown maybe your parents and grandparents were wrong.

Also, the black soldier went over to fight and many were heros but had to come back and use the separate bathroom and get no recognition until decades later.

It's fucked but that's the history of it.

This is not fully true.

Not ALL enterprises (families) were afraid. I resent you portraying all people black and white from such a harsh background.

Yes, some enterprises (families) had complexes that lead them to follow racial slavery. However, there were many enterprises that also indebted any color of man, woman, or child.

Not all plantations were heathen hell hole. And not all slaves were dysfunctional when slavery was outlawed (per-say).

Also is false is what the war was actually about.... but you can look that up.

Not all families of the South were adverse to the labor class, irrelevant of their color.

[Blaze]

Moreover, there was fine upstanding noble people from fine noble enterprises granted freedom that survived even though the corruption that was rampant after the horrid conditions left from the civil war.


Most of the "support" from the "poor-whites" was because they were mislead by corrupt enterprises. Not the enterprises that developed their "stock"

[TongueNGroove]

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It's amazing how bad TV looked in 64...

[Nitro Express]

This is not fully true.

Not ALL enterprises (families) were afraid. I resent you portraying all people black and white from such a harsh background.

Yes, some enterprises (families) had complexes that lead them to follow racial slavery. However, there were many enterprises that also indebted any color of man, woman, or child.

Not all plantations were heathen hell hole. And not all slaves were dysfunctional when slavery was outlawed (per-say).

Also is false is what the war was actually about.... but you can look that up.

Not all families of the South were adverse to the labor class, irrelevant of their color.

Sure there are individuals who differ. Robert E Lee and Jefferson Davis despised slavery. The Civil War broke out for many reasons the main being a dispute over how the South's exports were taxed. That being said wars and how society moves in general is based on the overall picture of things. The South wanted to systematically get rid of slavery. Many wanted to set up a situation where the slaves could be moved back to Africa or settled in an area where the potential for possible backlash would not be a worry. Many wondered where the slaves would go or what they would do. When you have more people that were slaves than free people in your area and all a sudden they get their freedom, it's frightening to many because they fear reversed violence and payback.

It created a nasty situation for another hundred years and nothing about it was simple or black and white. It was a very ugly situation and yes I realize there were good plantation owners and such but overall, it was horrid.

[Nitro Express]

In the south only the rich owned slaves. A good male slave was $1000. The working class couldn't afford them. I always wondered why the working class fought in the war when it seemed to be just the rich who had a bone to pick with the Federal Government. It's because Lincoln invaded the south with an army. That blew the lid off. That was the glue to the Confederacy.

[Blaze]

Sure there are individuals who differ. Robert E Lee and Jefferson Davis despised slavery. The Civil War broke out for many reasons the main being a dispute over how the South's exports were taxed. That being said wars and how society moves in general is based on the overall picture of things. The South wanted to systematically get rid of slavery. Many wanted to set up a situation where the slaves could be moved back to Africa or settled in an area where the potential for possible backlash would not be a worry. Many wondered where the slaves would go or what they would do. When you have more people that were slaves than free people in your area and all a sudden they get their freedom, it's frightening to many because they fear reversed violence and payback.

It created a nasty situation for another hundred years and nothing about it was simple or black and white. It was a very ugly situation and yes I realize there were good plantation owners and such but overall, it was horrid.

What was horrid was the fact, it was a racialized slavery.
And especially horrid was the fact laws were enacted by corrupt legislators to protect profits and ignoring the Godly duty of all men, women, and child to be good and ethical stewards. (condensed to simplest terms to avoid lengthly paragraphs.)
Slavery as practiced by laws enacted truly had become a mortal sin. The laws prevented the well-being of all in society.

In the south only the rich owned slaves. A good male slave was $1000. The working class couldn't afford them. I always wondered why the working class fought in the war when it seemed to be just the rich who had a bone to pick with the Federal Government. It's because Lincoln invaded the south with an army. That blew the lid off. That was the glue to the Confederacy.

They fought because they were part of the "wishful thinking" class.

Corrupt leaders mislead people into accepting serious ethical deviations as the norm.

I venture to say that if I conducted a study reviewing illegal acts, such as embezzlement, fraud, or theft that capitalizes on a person's high status during that era, I would find the era fraught with such crimes.

[jhale667]

Another witty comment....

So if we're pussies for enforcing Sarge's rules, you're basically saying the Sarge is a pussy for making that rule....

There you go confusing him with facts and details again...

[ashstralia]

saw a brilliant doco called 'roads to memphis'. it was an eye opening look into those times... what an inspirational man Dr. King was.

[ELVIS]

Excellent show...

Todays civil rights are far removed from the real Christianity Dr. King preached...

[ashstralia]

fair dinkum elvis...saw it last night. and i had no idea it started with a garbage worker's strike. and i'll agree on the second part of your post.