Can Obama win re-election?

[Dr. Love]

I think this time around will be a lot different than the 2008 election; Obama did not keep a hold of his passionate voters and let them wander off without keeping them engaged. Seems to me this is the Republicans election to lose.

Of course, that could drastically change based on who the GOP fields... I bet there's a lot of Tea Party fanaticism that drives the selection and election as well.

[Nitro Express]

Obama got the swing vote. Too many people were fed up with eight years of corrupt Republican rule. The thing is Obama turned out to be a fraud. The only thing he had any passion for was ramming a health care bill through that nobody knew what was in it. Now it turns out it's not single payer universal care but the government becoming the insurance industries mafia bill collector. Then they ear marked $105 billion to pay for it. The whole thing is a total scam. Other than that, Obama has been following the Bush Republican agenda except he totally blows congress off when going to war.

If this guy gets a second term it just proves the country has gone totally insane. The Democrat Party would do us all a favor and refuse to give the loser a second nomination and run someone else.

[sadaist]

Obama could easily lose re-election. Problem is....who the fuck are we (republicans) gonna run?

Here is my NO NO list for Republicans if they wanna even come close to winning.

Sarah Palin
Michelle Bachman
Jeb Bush
John McCain
Bobby Jindal
Charlie Crist
Rudy Guliani
Ron Paul
Lindsey Graham
Tim Pawlenty
Sarah Palin (yeah, listed her twice. She's that bad)


I saw Gen. David Petraeus' name being floated around. I think a great ticket would be Trump / Petraeus. Trump would be great as far as the recession, deficit, economy, oil prices, and all the money we owe everyone. Petraeus would be great with all the wars we are currently involved in. Yes Trump has a lot of dirty laundry. But everyone already knows about it all.

As far as Gingrich & Romney.....I'm not sure yet 1 way or the other.

Oh, and Chris Christie. But he has made it extremely clear he is not running. So if he flopped and did run, it would look pretty bad.

[Nitro Express]

I like Ron Paul but he just doesn't have the showbiz charisma the sheeple seem to like. They seem to like celebrities and Trump is a bigger celebrity than Ron Paul. Everyone knows who Trump is. The thing is Trump is media savy, he's a leader, he's tough as nails, he's smart, and he's a great negotiator. He might not have any experience holding political office but believe me, when you own lots of real estate you deal with politicians and the government all the time. It's the type of business that taxes and regulations affects a ton and you are always fighting in that arena.

The best thing about Trump is he has already overshadowed Sarah Palin in the political media game. You hear about him all the time and not her. She over exposed herself and the public grew tired of her.

[binnie]

Obama could easily lose re-election. Problem is....who the fuck are we (republicans) gonna run?

Here is my NO NO list for Republicans if they wanna even come close to winning.

Sarah Palin
Michelle Bachman
Jeb Bush
John McCain
Bobby Jindal
Charlie Crist
Rudy Guliani
Ron Paul
Lindsey Graham
Tim Pawlenty
Sarah Palin (yeah, listed her twice. She's that bad)


I saw Gen. David Petraeus' name being floated around. I think a great ticket would be Trump / Petraeus. Trump would be great as far as the recession, deficit, economy, oil prices, and all the money we owe everyone. Petraeus would be great with all the wars we are currently involved in. Yes Trump has a lot of dirty laundry. But everyone already knows about it all.

As far as Gingrich & Romney.....I'm not sure yet 1 way or the other.

Oh, and Chris Christie. But he has made it extremely clear he is not running. So if he flopped and did run, it would look pretty bad.

This is a question from complete ignorance: would Condolezza Rice be a good candidate?

She always seemed incredibly intelligent to me.....

[binnie]

Is it a case of the economy here? If the economy picks up significantly in the next 18 months, Obama will be re-elected; if it doesn't, he won't. Simple as that, right?

(Regardless of whether you think that the government has a significant impact on the economy, people generally vote with their wallets, right?)

[ELVIS]

Trump is not a serious candidate...

[knuckleboner]

Is it a case of the economy here? If the economy picks up significantly in the next 18 months, Obama will be re-elected; if it doesn't, he won't. Simple as that, right?

(Regardless of whether you think that the government has a significant impact on the economy, people generally vote with their wallets, right?)

binnie nails it. (so to speak...)

this election is obama's to lose. the only real question is whether or not the democrats benefit, or whether it's clinton in 96.

barring something unexpected, the economy WILL continue to improve. people generally don't vote against improving economic conditions. the republicans will say, "look, it's not back to where it was when bush was in office!"

and the counter is that the recession began with bush in office. mccain "suspended" his campaign to deal with the economy. and by november 2012, the economy will have been improving for long enough that obama, fairly or not, gets credit. libya will be a blip. as long as we don't have ground troops there (which we won't) then it will be over soon and not a factor in 18 months.

the biggest knock, other than the economy, on obama, will be the wild socialism claims. unfortunately for the republicans, nothing socialistic will be visible in 2012. health care will still look basically like it always did. some people may not like it. some people may like being able to get insurance despite a pre-existing condtion, but either way, it won't be much of a factor.

forget presidential 2012. the real question's on whether or not boehner can hold on.

[kwame k]

I like Ron Paul but he just doesn't have the showbiz charisma the sheeple seem to like. They seem to like celebrities and Trump is a bigger celebrity than Ron Paul. Everyone knows who Trump is. The thing is Trump is media savy, he's a leader, he's tough as nails, he's smart, and he's a great negotiator. He might not have any experience holding political office but believe me, when you own lots of real estate you deal with politicians and the government all the time. It's the type of business that taxes and regulations affects a ton and you are always fighting in that arena.

The best thing about Trump is he has already overshadowed Sarah Palin in the political media game. You hear about him all the time and not her. She over exposed herself and the public grew tired of her.

Trump's a novelty and I don't think he has the temperament to go the long haul in a Presidential campaign........

When Glenn BecKKK says you're way out there......well, if someone knows about that it's BecKKK.

"There is something reasonable to, you know, a reasonable conversation if you don't believe that he has a birth certificate." Beck said. "You can say, 'I don't believe he has a birth certificate.' But then he goes into 'I do not believe he has a birth certificate' and then he releases one that's worse than Obama's. And then he comes back and he says on your program, 'He might be a Muslim too.' I'm like, come on!"

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz1ITPHVKsI

[sadaist]

Is it a case of the economy here? If the economy picks up significantly in the next 18 months, Obama will be re-elected; if it doesn't, he won't. Simple as that, right?

(Regardless of whether you think that the government has a significant impact on the economy, people generally vote with their wallets, right?)

Economy is still getting worse. Even though some media is reporting how we are finally leveling out, it's a lie. They are only looking at a very controlled set of numbers. Gasoline just broke the $4 per gallon mark for the cheap stuff...87 octane. And that's not from the big guys, that's from the cheap Gas-n-Go at the corner.

I also was in Vons (Safeway...big grocery chain) and couldn't find any steaks other than chuck & flank. I think there was 1 sad looking London Broil sitting there. The guy who was stocking the meat & re-organizing the shelves asked if he could help me. i said dude, where are the New Yorks, the Porterhouse, the T-bones? Hell, I'll even take a ribeye. He started to explain that their cost on all of those is over $12 per pound and the amount they would have to charge...no one would buy any.

But steak prices don't make the news. I've been buying a steak every week or 2 for the last 21 years and have never seen it like this....ever. Which leads me to believe the economy is worse than is being reported.

[sadaist]

Anyways....it should be crystal clear to the American public that they voted the wrong Democrat in to office. Which person is golfing and visiting Brazil....and which person is meeting every damn diplomat in every conflicted part of the world as they are glued to the 3 am phone? Yeah, we all know who is doing all the heavy lifting, and it's not Barack.

[FORD]

The real mistake made by the Democratic party was allowing Vilsuck to rig the Iowa caucus in 2004.

Just imagine where this country could be right now if we were in year 7 of a Dean administration.

Iraq done, hopefully Afghanistan as well. Libya? Not a chance. The economy would be truly recovered, as it never would have gotten as bad as it did without a second Chimpy term.

Yeah, the wrong Democrat is in office alright. But Hillary wouldn't have done any better.

[Kristy]

But steak prices don't make the news. I've been buying a steak every week or 2 for the last 21 years and have never seen it like this....ever. Which leads me to believe the economy is worse than is being reported.

What rock have you been hiding under? Food prices on the whole have shot up over 25% in the past two months. Just the essential items, like milk, bread, cereal seem to have the most in mark-up. And my roommate's friend who works at the local popular grocery chain in my area has been dramatically cut back on hours barely, just barely getting by on hours in order to maintain her health insurance plan. Anyway, she was telling me the store where she works has cut back on a lot of items in that it's too expensive for them to carry any longer and shelves are like a receding hairline with fewer items being placed on them. I've cut back my budget on food not because I'm buying more but spending more and getting less.

[ELVIS]

The real mistake made by the Democratic party was allowing Vilsuck to rig the Iowa caucus in 2004.

Just imagine where this country could be right now if we were in year 7 of a Dean administration.

Iraq done, hopefully Afghanistan as well. Libya? Not a chance. The economy would be truly recovered, as it never would have gotten as bad as it did without a second Chimpy term.

Yeah, the wrong Democrat is in office alright. But Hillary wouldn't have done any better.

You must be drunk AND high...

[sadaist]

What rock have you been hiding under?

I live under the 'single guy with 1 dog' rock. I usually just eat from fast food & restaurants. Rarely cook at home because it's a pain to cook for one. But I do buy the occasional loaf of bread, lunch meats, cokes, dog food, & every once in a while I get a steak to cook up for dinner. Back when I was married with a step-kid and more pets around the house, we would easily fill up an entire cart to near overflowing. Haven't done that in 6+ years.

So I haven't really felt the grocery pinch like most people.