Ubama fights for more debt and loses again

[Nickdfresh]

"As for social security and welfare, those are worthwhile programs."

That is socialism blah troll blah blah troll trolling...

Um, Obama is still cleaning up the shitty mess left behind the incompetents YOU voted for. The one who invaded the wrong country, enable corporatist welfare and wholesale fraud, and destroyed the economy...

[Guitar Shark]

Bush also heavily lobbied for, and signed, that Medicare prescription drug benefit entitlement program that costs tens, if not hundreds, of billions of dollars a year. Both parties have been extremely irresponsible with spending. It's simple - either spending needs to decrease, or taxes need to increase, or some combination of the two. We can't continue borrowing money at this pace.

[jacksmar]

I didn't vote for Hillbilly Clinton, Impeached.

Corporate welfare can take the form of direct government grants, loans, insurance, or subsidies provided to business; trade barriers designed to protect U.S. firms in particular industries from foreign competition at the expense of American consumers like this leftist gem:

Agriculture Department's Market Promotion Program, which subsidizes the foreign advertising of U.S. corporations such as Pillsbury, Dole, and Jim Beam;

or a loophole in the tax code carved out solely for the benefit of a particular company or industry.

Same shit, different year Nick.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1995-04-04/news/9504040207_1_tax-cuts-gop-tax-500-per-child-tax

April 04, 1995|By Knight-Ridder Newspapers

House Republicans removed a major stumbling block to their $190 billion tax-cut plan Monday after GOP leaders agreed to make tax reductions conditional on passing a budget that would eliminate the deficit by 2002.

Meanwhile, Vice President Al Gore blasted the tax plan, calling it ''highly partisan'' and ''extremist,'' and accused Republicans of cutting taxes for the wealthy at the expense of the poor and the middle class.


Same tards; different suits. It's still socialism and thanks to the incompetents you continue to vote for it will be worse soon enough.

[Baby's On Fire]

You American 'tards amaze me. Honest to motherfucking God.

Common sense clouded by partisan and ratial hate.

[BigBadBrian]

You American 'tards amaze me. Honest to motherfucking God.

Common sense clouded by partisan and ratial hate.

You wish you were an American. :tongue0011::tongue0011:

[BigBadBrian]

and slashing the living shit out of the "defense" budget, then you need to shut the fuck up about the debt.

Nope. We won't shut up.

What part of the defense budget would you "slash the living shit out of?"

[BigBadBrian]

hate to break it to you, jack, but the republicans plan on adding at least that much debt, too. they're just a little more deceptive about it...

Bullshit. Your argument, counselor.

[BigBadBrian]

For example, did all those missiles Ronald Reagan and Poppy Bush charged on the national credit card in the 80's do a damn thing to stop 19 idiots with box-cutters? (Assuming you believe that crock of shit anyway)

FORD, you're in over your head...stop!

[BigBadBrian]

Bush also heavily lobbied for, and signed, that Medicare prescription drug benefit entitlement program that costs tens, if not hundreds, of billions of dollars a year. Both parties have been extremely irresponsible with spending. It's simple - either spending needs to decrease, or taxes need to increase, or some combination of the two. We can't continue borrowing money at this pace.

Holy shit! A liberal sees the light!

[knuckleboner]

Bullshit. Your argument, counselor.

beyond easy:

the ryan budget adds more than $4 trillion to the national debt over the next decade.

the republican study committee's alternative budget, which, by the way is the SUPER conservative budget and by far the most draconian that's been proposed, adds another $2.2+ trillion over the next decade.

so, republicans, implicitly acknowledge that, yes, we're going to need more debt. and trillions of it. but they're going to be more fiscally responsible in the long run and gradually lower deficts over the years. but they don't say that because it doesn't exactly fit onto their bumper stickers.

retort?

[FORD]

What part of the defense budget would you "slash the living shit out of?"

Every penny that doesn't go to the actual defense of the United States of America.

[FORD]

Believe it or not, we still have millions of people without comfortable retirements, without adequate health care, and living in poverty.

The socialism is not working, it never has.

It's corporatism that screwed up healthcare, closed factories, and outsourced jobs. Not socialism.

[jacksmar]

Spoken like socialist. Equal sharing of miseries and profits are evil. Predictable.

As a socialist FORD, I suggest you understand statism before replying again.

[FORD]

Yeah, I'm a "socialist", just like Tommy fucking Jefferson.......

"Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise. Whenever there is in any country, uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural right." - Thomas Jefferson

[jacksmar]

Jefferson was not proposing this for the US. He saw this as unjust land policy in France and Eurpoe and wrote to Madison about it.

As soon as I had got clear of the town I fell in with a poor woman walking at the same rate with myself and going the same course. Wishing to know the condition of the labouring poor I entered into conversation with her, which I began by enquiries for the path which would lead me into the mountain: and thence proceeded to enquiries into her vocation, condition and circumstance. She told me she was a day labourer, at 8. sous or 4 d. sterling the day; that she had two children to maintain, and to pay a rent of 30 livres for her house (which would consume the hire of 75 days), that often she could get no emploiment, and of course was without bread. As we had walked together near a mile and she had so far served me as a guide, I gave her, on parting 24 sous. She burst into tears of a gratitude which I could perceive was unfeigned, because she was unable to utter a word. She had probably never before received so great an aid. This little attendrissement, with the solitude of my walk led me into a train of reflections on that unequal division of property which occasions the numberless instances of wretchedness which I had observed in this country and is to be observed all over Europe.

FORD, socialism doesn't work. What Jefferson did is the act of a Christian. Your parsed and out of context quote can't change that.

Ubama is a socialist that surrounded himself with communists and apparently doesn't know his heritage. One day Ubama thinks he's Kenyan and recites Muslim prayer and the next Obama thinks he's from Ireland drinking Guinness. He's anything but an American because he knows nothing of American heritage and history. Ubama is a Blackberry twerp that's never signed a paycheck. Obama is an idiot that doesn't know his credit card balance.

What Ubama and every socialist Democrat doesn't understand is poverty to some point is a part of the human experience. Good intentions, increased taxes, and more socialist welfare don’t guarantee the end of poverty, nor does anything else including socialism.

Tax rate cuts cause a short term drop in revenue but they are also followed by stock rallies, then by gdp growth, and finally by revenue increases. And as Democrats are so artful at stealing and lying about it, one would think they would co-opt the idea and make it theirs again. It would be too easy to lead the same assholes that voted for Ubama in that direction because that would be change and they're too stupid to know what the fuck that means. They would think it's socialism.