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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35824

    #31
    You talk a lot about knowing American heritage but even I know Jefferson wasn't a Christian, he was a theist even back in the day when every thing was a big mystery.

    It seems to be common in America to use the word socialism as a scary negative word without even knowing what it means.

    Your post would kind of make sense in an morally bankrupt way if you were one of the 1% at the top of the tree in the US who are doing pretty well.

    Maybe I'm wrong but I doubt you are which just makes you a silly sheep.
    Last edited by Seshmeister; 06-05-2011, 09:45 PM.

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 59807

      #32
      Originally posted by jacksmar
      FORD, socialism doesn't work. What Jefferson did is the act of a Christian. Your parsed and out of context quote can't change that.
      Christ Himself would be a "socialist" by your definition. Or do you know any corporatists who sell all they have and give the money to the poor?

      Originally posted by jacksmar
      Ubama is a socialist that surrounded himself with communists and apparently doesn't know his heritage. One day Ubama thinks he's Kenyan and recites Muslim prayer and the next Obama thinks he's from Ireland drinking Guinness. He's anything but an American because he knows nothing of American heritage and history. Ubama is a Blackberry twerp that's never signed a paycheck. Obama is an idiot that doesn't know his credit card balance.
      At least he knows how to spell his own name. I guess that makes him smarter than you. And what the fuck is wrong with drinking Guinness when you're in Ireland? Or anywhere else for that matter (though as the Prez himself said, it just ain't the same in the states)

      Originally posted by jacksmar
      What Ubama and every socialist Democrat doesn't understand is poverty to some point is a part of the human experience. Good intentions, increased taxes, and more socialist welfare don’t guarantee the end of poverty, nor does anything else including socialism.

      Tax rate cuts cause a short term drop in revenue but they are also followed by stock rallies, then by gdp growth, and finally by revenue increases. And as Democrats are so artful at stealing and lying about it, one would think they would co-opt the idea and make it theirs again. It would be too easy to lead the same assholes that voted for Ubama in that direction because that would be change and they're too stupid to know what the fuck that means. They would think it's socialism.
      If this trickle down RandTard bullshit worked, then how come this country has gone down the toilet for the last three decades with even the so-called "socialist" Presidents not getting off this economic trainwreck.
      Eat Us And Smile

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      • Seshmeister
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Oct 2003
        • 35824

        #33
        Why can't so many Americans realise that spending trillions of dollars on 'defence' is public spending?

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35824

          #34
          Originally posted by FORD
          If this trickle down RandTard bullshit worked, then how come this country has gone down the toilet for the last three decades with even the so-called "socialist" Presidents not getting off this economic trainwreck.

          The ridiculous thing about this theory is that it doesn't even try to hide.

          TRICKLE!

          TRICKLE!

          TRICKLE!

          HELLOOOOO!!!

          Is there anyone home?

          TRICKLE!

          What does that word mean? Does it mean lots?

          Does it mean 'a decent proportion?'

          Does it imply a 'fair amount'?

          Any time I hear the phrase I want to hit people in the head.

          'If we give the super rich millions some of it is bound to trickle down back to the people that need it'.

          Jesus suffering cunt on a bike...

          Here's a fucking plan lets try a deluge up rather than a trickle down.

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          • jacksmar
            Full Member Status

            • Feb 2004
            • 3533

            #35
            Originally posted by Seshmeister
            You talk a lot about knowing American heritage but even I know Jefferson wasn't a Christian, he was a theist even back in the day when every thing was a big mystery.

            It seems to be common in America to use the word socialism as a scary negative word without even knowing what it means.

            Your post would kind of make sense in an morally bankrupt way if you were one of the 1% at the top of the tree in the US who are doing pretty well.

            Maybe I'm wrong but I doubt you are which just makes you a silly sheep.
            Jefferson was raised as an Anglican and he gave money to all denominations. He had a wife die young along with his kids that died which probably led to his Unitarian beliefs.

            What I refer to in point to BHO is for full nationalization of the economy. Bush gave us Medicare Part D which is socialism. Think I have pretty good handle on it. In Europe it's apparently some point of pride due to the the mixed economies, ask Gordon Brown. BHO isn't some Stalinist, he's more like Tony Benn. Calling BHO a socialist isn't racist, or fear mongering, or conspiratorial; it's a fact.

            Barack Obama is intrinsically undemocratic and it's becoming more obvious. In that wonderful piece propaganda that BHO "wrote" Obama sees himself as an African and not as a black American. BHO goes on a personal quest to understand his Kenyan roots, not American roots.

            I'm fine financially. Thanks for asking.
            A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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            • jacksmar
              Full Member Status

              • Feb 2004
              • 3533

              #36
              "though as the Prez himself said, it just ain't the same in the states"

              No shit Obama. Ever tried a Bud while in Europe? It's real beer in Europe.

              And parroting Robert Reich doesn't make anything true. Reich has never crated a job because he's an asshole that spent his entire career in politics. Between community organizer and social economist; which profession is more worthless? Both are lifelong parasites. Would anyone with good mind go to Reich for financial planning? Fuck no.

              They borrowed from Social Security to produce a surplus and HillBilly's dot.com bubble burst. HillBilly's surplus topped out at $236 billion per year but led to a $3 trillion national debt. How the fuck does that happen?

              The socialism doesn't work, it never has.
              Last edited by jacksmar; 06-05-2011, 10:42 PM.
              A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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              • Unchainme
                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                • Apr 2005
                • 7746

                #37
                Originally posted by Baby's On Fire
                You American 'tards amaze me. Honest to motherfucking God.

                Common sense clouded by partisan and ratial hate.
                What a douche-tube you are. I feel sorry that Canada has a jackass like you soiling her name
                Still waiting for a relevant Browns Team

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49628

                  #38
                  Originally posted by jacksmar
                  Jefferson was raised as an Anglican and he gave money to all denominations. He had a wife die young along with his kids that died which probably led to his Unitarian beliefs.
                  Um, no. He was part of a wider movement and its subset called the Enlightenment and the Rationalist. The Unitarian Church didn't exist then, and wasn't spawned until the wake of American Romantic writers like Hawthorne, Thoreau, and Melville...


                  What I refer to in point to BHO is for full nationalization of the economy. Bush gave us Medicare Part D which is socialism. Think I have pretty good handle on it. In Europe it's apparently some point of pride due to the the mixed economies, ask Gordon Brown. BHO isn't some Stalinist, he's more like Tony Benn. Calling BHO a socialist isn't racist, or fear mongering, or conspiratorial; it's a fact.
                  ...
                  Complete horseshit! Show where Obama has nationalized any industry. And most of Western Europe ISN'T "socialist," they're actually "mixed" capitalist economies like the U.S.

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 59807

                    #39
                    Medicare part D is the OPPOSITE of "socialism", since it is the privatization of a part of Medicare. And now the Randtard Ryan wants to privatize the rest of it.
                    Eat Us And Smile

                    Cenk For America 2024!!

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                    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                    • jacksmar
                      Full Member Status

                      • Feb 2004
                      • 3533

                      #40
                      Nick,
                      You are so correct. Jefferson didn't join a Unitarian church. He attended services. He used to write to Jared Sparks and John Adams. Wait, that would make you incorrect.

                      Nick, as a teacher, you may understand the following blue-book question: What is a salary(pay) czar? Define the need for a pay czar. What industries does the pay czar oversee?

                      No horseshit (socialist) answer will be accepted.
                      A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 59807

                        #41
                        Originally posted by jacksmar
                        Ever tried a Bud while in Europe? It's real beer in Europe.
                        Well, yes and no.......



                        Indeed, there is a beer called Budweiser brewed in the Czech Republic. But it has no affiliation whatsoever with the Anhueser Busch corporation, nor the horrid swill they produce under the same name.

                        I've heard the Czech Budweiser is good, but I haven't tried it, and I'm not a big Pilsner fan anyway, so it probably wouldn't be my first choice even if it were available. Guinness may be slightly different in every country (best I ever had was at a pub just north of the Canadian border) but its essentially the same beer, same label, same company, etc.
                        Eat Us And Smile

                        Cenk For America 2024!!

                        Justice Democrats


                        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                        • LoungeMachine
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 32576

                          #42
                          Has anyone bothered to point out to Jagsmear that the RePukes raised the debt ceiling 17 times under Bush?

                          Originally posted by Kristy
                          Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                          Originally posted by cadaverdog
                          I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 59807

                            #43
                            Doesn't matter, because Chimpy was a White Christian American and not a Kenyan Muslim Socialist
                            Eat Us And Smile

                            Cenk For America 2024!!

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                            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32942

                              #44
                              Originally posted by FORD
                              Doesn't matter, because Chimpy was a White Christian American and not a Kenyan Muslim Socialist
                              Basically all that means is we could fire a full broadside of insults at Bush without worry of being labeled a racist or an uncultured hater.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                              • Nitro Express
                                DIAMOND STATUS
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 32942

                                #45
                                Originally posted by FORD
                                It's corporatism that screwed up healthcare, closed factories, and outsourced jobs. Not socialism.
                                The corporations did a lot of damage because the government allowed them to do it. I like regulated capitalism where the government plays the role of being the referee. It used to be corporations had six year charters that were renewed according to that corporations behavior. The US government in theory is set up to represent the citizens, not corporations and over the years the corporations have slowly taken over the government so what we have now is fascism not socialism. Socialism is putting the people's money into a pot which the government uses to buy good and services which hopefully benefit the public. But again, the public have to watch the store or that money will be spent for the benefit of the politicians and the lobbyists.

                                The problem isn't so much the government but who the government sides with.
                                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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