The CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO ABORTION NOW...A FETUS IS NOT A HUMAN....

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  • Nickdfresh
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    Originally posted by ELVIS
    Is that so, Dickforbrains ??

    One has to wonder what you could possibly think you're proving when you try to pull statistics like that out of your ass...


    Oh look, I offended El-dicksuck. Did your pastor diddle you, buddy after too much Jesus-juice™? I heard this on the news a while back. But it's funny to watch fuckstumps like you running around bashing one form of Christianity because "theirs is better!" And you're the first to cry that Christians are being unfairly bashed!

    But here you go, dicklick. From Newsweek originally:

    Mean Men
    Apr 7, 2010 8:00 PM EDT
    The priesthood is being cast as the refuge of pederasts. In fact, priests seem to abuse children at the same rate as everyone else.

    The Catholic sex-abuse stories emerging every day suggest that Catholics have a much bigger problem with child molestation than other denominations and the general population. Many point to peculiarities of the Catholic Church (its celibacy rules for priests, its insular hierarchy, its exclusion of women) to infer that there's something particularly pernicious about Catholic clerics that predisposes them to these horrific acts. It's no wonder that, back in 2002—when the last Catholic sex-abuse scandal was making headlines—a Wall Street Journal-NBC News poll found that 64 percent of those queried thought Catholic priests "frequently'' abused children.

    Yet experts say there's simply no data to support the claim at all. No formal comparative study has ever broken down child sexual abuse by denomination, and only the Catholic Church has released detailed data about its own. But based on the surveys and studies conducted by different denominations over the past 30 years, experts who study child abuse say they see little reason to conclude that sexual abuse is mostly a Catholic issue. "We don't see the Catholic Church as a hotbed of this or a place that has a bigger problem than anyone else," said Ernie Allen, president of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. "I can tell you without hesitation that we have seen cases in many religious settings, from traveling evangelists to mainstream ministers to rabbis and others."

    Since the mid-1980s, insurance companies have offered sexual misconduct coverage as a rider on liability insurance, and their own studies indicate that Catholic churches are not higher risk than other congregations. Insurance companies that cover all denominations, such as Guide One Center for Risk Management, which has more than 40,000 church clients, does not charge Catholic churches higher premiums. "We don't see vast difference in the incidence rate between one denomination and another," says Sarah Buckley, assistant vice president of corporate communications. "It's pretty even across the denominations." It's been that way for decades. While the company saw an uptick in these claims by all types of churches around the time of the 2002 U.S. Catholic sex-abuse scandal, Eric Spacick, Guide One's senior church-risk manager, says "it's been pretty steady since." On average, the company says 80 percent of the sexual misconduct claims they get from all denominations involve sexual abuse of children. As a result, the more children's programs a church has, the more expensive its insurance, officials at Guide One said.

    The only hard data that has been made public by any denomination comes from John Jay College's study of Catholic priests, which was authorized and is being paid for by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops following the public outcry over the 2002 scandals. Limiting their study to plausible accusations made between 1950 and 1992, John Jay researchers reported that about 4 percent of the 110,000 priests active during those years had been accused of sexual misconduct involving children. Specifically, 4,392 complaints (ranging from "sexual talk" to rape) were made against priests by 10,667 victims. (Reports made after 2002, including those of incidents that occurred years earlier, are released as part of the church's annual audits.)

    Experts disagree on the rate of sexual abuse among the general American male population, but Allen says a conservative estimate is one in 10. Margaret Leland Smith, a researcher at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, says her review of the numbers indicates it's closer to one in 5. But in either case, the rate of abuse by Catholic priests is not higher than these national estimates. The public also doesn't realize how "profoundly prevalent" child sexual abuse is, adds Smith. Even those numbers may be low; research suggests that only a third of abuse cases are ever reported (making it the most underreported crime). "However you slice it, it's a very common experience," Smith says.

    Most child abusers have one thing in common, and it's not piety—it's preexisting relationships with their victims. That includes priests and ministers and rabbis, of course, but also family members, friends, neighbors, teachers, coaches, scout leaders, youth-group volunteers, and doctors. According to federal studies, three quarters of abuse occurs at the hands of family members or others in the victim's "circle of trust." "The fundamental premise here is that those who abuse children overwhelmingly seek out situations where they have easy and legitimate access to children," he said. "These kinds of positions offer a kind of cover for these offenders."

    Priests may also appear more likely to molest children because cases of abuse come to light in huge waves. One reason is delayed reporting: less than 13 percent of victims abused between 1960 and 1980, for example, lodged a complaint in the same year as the assault. Two thirds filed their complaints after 1992, and half of those were made between 2002 and 2003 alone. "Offenders tend to be manipulative, often persuading children to believe that this is their fault," said Allen. "As a result, the children tend to keep it to themselves. There are countless victims who thought they were the only one." So what looks like high concentrations of abuse may simply reflect long and diffuse patterns of abuse that mirror those among all males.
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  • ELVIS
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    Is that so, Dickforbrains ??

    One has to wonder what you could possibly think you're proving when you try to pull statistics like that out of your ass...


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  • Nickdfresh
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    One has to wonder if the Catholic hierarchy ignoring pederasty was a result of it being a fringe benefit to keep the priesthood filled, as well as a means to maintain power overall through shame and emotional blackmail...

    The thing is, while the Vatican has made it easy to single them out, the truth is that statistically most religions on on par with the Catholic Church as far as clergy molesting children...
    Last edited by Nickdfresh; 02-06-2013, 12:11 PM.

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  • DLR Bridge
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    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    It is all much worse than many people realize.
    Yep...

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  • Va Beach VH Fan
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    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    It is all much worse than many people realize. It's not an understatement to say that current pope should be criminally charged on multiple counts, anyone else would have been.

    Absolutely, ALL of the pedophilia cases went to him !!

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  • Seshmeister
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    Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
    Watched the HBO documentary "Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence in the House of God" last night...

    Highly recommend watching it.....

    Of course, pedophilia among the priests isn't a new revelation.... But man, to see it laid out like this, meaning who knew what and when, it's really flabbergasting....
    It is all much worse than many people realize. It's not an understatement to say that current pope should be criminally charged on multiple counts, anyone else would have been.

    On a positive note one good side effect of all this is that church attendance in places like Dublin, Ireland have fallen from 90%+ to 14%

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  • Guitar Shark
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    Originally posted by Kristy
    Now I'm back to being a "hipster" again. Poor little Nick, when not Wikiing, he's Wikiing how to be PC for the masses. Next time, I'll be sure to cala Seinfeld a "unfunny Muslim or Catholic" just to satisfy your anger. Go back to sucking on your father's dick. You retarded cunt..
    Your act is just completely tired.

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  • Va Beach VH Fan
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    Watched the HBO documentary "Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence in the House of God" last night...

    Highly recommend watching it.....

    Of course, pedophilia among the priests isn't a new revelation.... But man, to see it laid out like this, meaning who knew what and when, it's really flabbergasting....

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  • FORD
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    Originally posted by Kristy
    Because Seinfeld goes on and on about his "Jewishness"

    The man had a mediocre early 90's TV show that was sucessul on the writing and acting of those others than him and as for his stand up, I'd rather go to a dentist who would uses rusty piles to do a tooth exctraction that witness another one of his painful monologues.
    Ah, so you're an anti-dentite then??

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  • Nickdfresh
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    BTW, I'm far from "PC." But two-faced bullshit is pretty easy to spot a mile away...

    Trolling cunt...

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  • Nickdfresh
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    Originally posted by Kristy
    Now I'm back to being a "hipster" again.
    You always have been, with the quasi-opinionated douchiness...

    Poor little Nick, when not Wikiing, he's Wikiing how to be PC for the masses. Next time, I'll be sure to cala Seinfeld a "unfunny Muslim or Catholic" just to satisfy your anger. Go back to sucking on your father's dick. You retarded cunt..
    I wish your tired, idiotic Wiki torts made sense and didn't seem so boring. I wasn't sucking my father's dick. My, are we getting angry, today? Did the John-requested Cleveland Steamer not go well last night?

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  • Kristy
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    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
    You're a "hipster" douche trying to mask your own prejudices with a sophist line of reasoning. But the fact that you referred to Seinfeld as a "Jewish comedian" implies an 'otherness' when compared to society as a whole, or of the mainstream. That's pretty funny when you point out everyones' supposed homophobia, then follow up with dehumanizing stereotypes for the sake of trolling...



    Oh, lookie! Using my jokes now. Maybe you should get some of your own so you look less like a boring, unfunny cunt...
    Now I'm back to being a "hipster" again. Poor little Nick, when not Wikiing, he's Wikiing how to be PC for the masses. Next time, I'll be sure to cala Seinfeld a "unfunny Muslim or Catholic" just to satisfy your anger. Go back to sucking on your father's dick. You retarded cunt..

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  • Nickdfresh
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    Originally posted by Kristy
    Because Seinfeld goes on and on about his "Jewishness"

    The man had a mediocre early 90's TV show that was sucessul on the writing and acting of those others than him and as for his stand up, I'd rather go to a dentist who would uses rusty piles to do a tooth exctraction that witness another one of his painful monologues.
    You're a "hipster" douche trying to mask your own prejudices with a sophist line of reasoning. But the fact that you referred to Seinfeld as a "Jewish comedian" implies an 'otherness' when compared to society as a whole, or of the mainstream. That's pretty funny when you point out everyones' supposed homophobia, then follow up with dehumanizing stereotypes for the sake of trolling...

    Somebody get the Anti-Defamation League on he phone Quick!
    Oh, lookie! Using my jokes now. Maybe you should get some of your own so you look less like a boring, unfunny cunt...

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  • ELVIS
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    Originally posted by Hardrock69
    I stand corrected.
    Story of your miserable existence...

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