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  • Satan
    ROTH ARMY ELITE
    • Jan 2004
    • 6664

    How "Big" should Government Be?

    Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

    Originally posted by Sockfucker
    I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.
  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    #2
    The question is how small should it be...

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    • Satan
      ROTH ARMY ELITE
      • Jan 2004
      • 6664

      #3
      Did you watch the video?

      It's hard to think of a rational argument against anything he says here.
      Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

      Originally posted by Sockfucker
      I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32942

        #4
        Let's be honest. When you are the dictator, you want government as big as possible.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • Nitro Express
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Aug 2004
          • 32942

          #5
          How come RT has no problem bashing the US but they never bash Russia? Gee. They sell no advertising so where is their money coming from? Hmmmmmmm. Gee. It might be from the Russian government. Hey Putin. Be fair and balanced for once.
          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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          • Satan
            ROTH ARMY ELITE
            • Jan 2004
            • 6664

            #6
            Thom Hartmann isn't working for Pooty-Poot.

            Fucking watch the video already.... geezus.
            Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

            Originally posted by Sockfucker
            I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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            • Nitro Express
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 32942

              #7
              Originally posted by Satan
              Thom Hartmann isn't working for Pooty-Poot.

              Fucking watch the video already.... geezus.
              Why? He's just the Alan Colmbs of RT. If Hartman gets a paycheck from Russia Today yes, he is working for Pooty-Poot.
              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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              • Nitro Express
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 32942

                #8
                Most Americans have never heard of Russia Today (RT) television, a propaganda arm of the Putin-Medvedev-KGB-run Russian thugocracy, but thanks to a former KGB officer, Konstantin Preobrazhensky, more about its origins and purposes have been revealed.
                In a "Statement by Konstantin Preobrazhensky, former Soviet KGB officer, on the impact and purpose of Russia Today (RT) television", given to America's Survival, Inc. organization, led by noted journalist Cliff Kincaid, released April 1, 2011, the former KGB officer wrote the following about it (Full Text).
                "Russia Today" was founded in 2005 especially for propaganda abroad. It has been aimed at 'explaining Russia's position on the main international issues and inform foreigners about Russian life'. According to Gzt.ru, it has been financed totally by the Russian government. In 2005-2006, the government has delivered $30 million annually. In 2011-2013, "Russia Today" will get $216 million (6,483 billion rubles).
                The methods of propaganda are managed by Directorate "A" of Russian Foreign Intelligence Service. The specialty of Directorate "A" is deceiving world public opinion and manipulating it. It has got a lot of experence over decades of the Cold War.
                "Russia Today" is only a part of the Russian industry misinformation and manipulation created recently in the USA by Putin's KGB. It is including the utilization of some American think-tanks and political scientists, their direct work up by Putin at annual meetings in Russia, putting Russian Americans under Kremlin's control, etc. This industry aims at creating an inadequate, adorned image of Russia, provoking American to make wrong steps in their Russian politics.
                The Russians are masters at subtle persuasion.
                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                • Satan
                  ROTH ARMY ELITE
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 6664

                  #9
                  Noted journalist Cliff Kincaid? Yeah... right.....

                  Cliff Kincaid
                  Date of Birth: 1954
                  Location: Owings, MD.
                  Ideology: "Patriot" Movement (wackjob militia white supremacist)

                  For more than 30 years, Cliff Kincaid has been pushing out conspiracy theories, demonizing propaganda and a series of falsehoods about LGBT people, Muslims, Democrats and others — all as the editor of Accuracy in Media (AIM). But if there’s one thing Kincaid cannot be trusted on, it’s accuracy.

                  The notably humorless Kincaid embraces just about any theory that makes the “liberal” media and those it supposedly supports look bad. He says that President Obama has “well-documented socialist connections,” is the product of a “mysterious upbringing as a Muslim,” and may not have been born in this country. He claims that Hillary Clinton is a lesbian and that Clinton deputy White House counsel Vince Foster was murdered. He calls global warming a “fraudulent scheme.” The Roman Catholic Church, he asserts, has been hijacked by “Marxist elements” and is “facilitating the foreign invasion of the U.S.” by northbound Latinos. He insists that the governments of Canada, the United States and Mexico have a secret pact to merge into a single entity — the much-feared North American Union.

                  At the same time, he also has appeared regularly on Fox News programs, on other television networks, and on hate radio jock Michael Savage’s show.

                  Before joining AIM in 1978, Kincaid worked at the conservative Human Events magazine and, later, as a newsletter editor for Iran-Contra figure Oliver North at North’s Freedom Alliance. But his influence has risen since joining AIM, which is supported heavily by right-wing billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife.

                  Much of Kincaid’s relentless polemicizing in recent years has been aimed at gay people. He blames gay men for corrupting the military and angrily complains that “establishment journalists are aligned with academia” (“sexual perverts masquerading as scholars”) in supporting transgender people. He has staunchly supported the Ugandan “Kill the Gays” law — a proposal Kincaid says is merely “designed to send a message to … the foreign homosexual lobby to keep their hands off Uganda’s families and kids.”

                  Most recently, Kincaid has jumped on the increasingly crowded anti-Muslim bandwagon. Last year, he was on a panel at a conference held by ACT! for America, an Islamophobic group, and also joined the board of directors of Stop the Islamization of Nations, run by hatemonger Pamela Geller.

                  Despite his self-appointed role as media monitor, Kincaid often writes on the basis of pure speculation (were poems Obama wrote about his father really about a “Communist” mentor who was also a “sex pervert and a pothead”?) or fact-challenged “experts” who parrot his own preordained points of view.
                  Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

                  Originally posted by Sockfucker
                  I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #10
                    I watched the big government propaganda video...


                    Big Pharma - Yes

                    Fertilizer Plant - No

                    Banks- Yes

                    Jobs - No

                    Healthcare - No

                    Safety net - Yes

                    Education - No

                    Climate Change - Laughable

                    Fairness Doctrine - No


                    That guy sucks, FORD...


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                    • Satan
                      ROTH ARMY ELITE
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 6664

                      #11
                      Why so inconsistent with your answers, Mr. Presley?

                      You apparently think some of these things should be regulated, and others not, but if all of them are currently being controlled by the manipulations of a handful of huge, "untouchable" corporations, then how can you deny the reality that the problem is the same across the board (i.e the handful of huge, untouchable corporations).

                      Some things simply should not BE for profit industries at all. That would be education, health care, energy, infrastructure, defense, and news media, to name a few. And the rest should be reasonably regulated, for both safety reasons (to prevent disasters like what recently happened in Texas) and to keep a handful of corporations from having too much power, while at the same time promoting competition and innovation among the private sector.

                      That's how we run things in Hell. We're stuck here for eternity, so we had to make a system that worked.
                      Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

                      Originally posted by Sockfucker
                      I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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                      • ELVIS
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 44120

                        #12
                        I don't want the Federal Government involved in education at any level...

                        The Federal government is a huge propaganda machine, for one...

                        A fertilizer plant, that's state level business. No big government needed...

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                        • Satan
                          ROTH ARMY ELITE
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 6664

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ELVIS
                          I don't want the Federal Government involved in education at any level...

                          The Federal government is a huge propaganda machine, for one...
                          Quality education - or the lack thereof - IS a national issue. So there should be national standards for it. And for the love of all that's unholy, the decisions for what goes in textbooks, should NEVER be left up to a state where religious fanaticism has any power.

                          A fertilizer plant, that's state level business. No big government needed...
                          And when the state government is run by imbeciles like Chimpy and pRick Perry..... well the results speak for themselves, don't they?
                          Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

                          Originally posted by Sockfucker
                          I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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                          • ELVIS
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 44120

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Satan
                            Quality education - or the lack thereof - IS a national issue. So there should be national standards for it.

                            It's a state issue...

                            The "national standard" should be a collective effort from the states...


                            And when the state government is run by imbeciles like Chimpy and pRick Perry..... well the results speak for themselves, don't they?

                            Elect someone else...

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                            • Unchainme
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 7746

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Satan
                              Quality education - or the lack thereof - IS a national issue. So there should be national standards for it. And for the love of all that's unholy, the decisions for what goes in textbooks, should NEVER be left up to a state where religious fanaticism has any power.



                              And when the state government is run by imbeciles like Chimpy and pRick Perry..... well the results speak for themselves, don't they?
                              Yeah I love having my education decided upon stuff like "levies" and other shit state policies.

                              It's been the state more than anything fucking things up.
                              Last edited by Unchainme; 05-03-2013, 06:32 PM.
                              Still waiting for a relevant Browns Team

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