What if Jimmy Carter's Second Term Had Not Been Stolen?

[Satan]

Eisenhower knew what the BCE agenda was, because he knew the BCE.....







Technically, he was their first President, though unlike his VP Nixon, he was never truly on board with their agenda. Tricky Dick was a BCE puppet all the way back to 1946.....

[ELVIS]

I'm starting to see why you pose as Satan...

[LoungeMachine]

Who was our last good president?

Washington. And Jefferson. [reading Meacham's book now]

Lincoln, both Roosevelts, Kennedy, Ike, and Billy were pretty damn good as well.

[Nitro Express]

Eisenhower knew what the BCE agenda was, because he knew the BCE.....








Technically, he was their first President, though unlike his VP Nixon, he was never truly on board with their agenda. Tricky Dick was a BCE puppet all the way back to 1946.....

Pictures mean nothing. Just because someone takes a picture of you talking to someone doesn't mean you are in their dirt. I've was at a fundraising diner where H.W. Bush was present. Let's say someone snapped a picture of me with him, suddenly I would be a member of the BCE.

[Nitro Express]

I dont know. But I found this picture.

Women are taking over the universe. This is proof of that.

[Satan]

Pictures mean nothing. Just because someone takes a picture of you talking to someone doesn't mean you are in their dirt. I've was at a fundraising diner where H.W. Bush was present. Let's say someone snapped a picture of me with him, suddenly I would be a member of the BCE.

Perhaps not, but it's well established that Prescott Bush and his Hitler funding buddies are the ones who recruited Dick Nixon to run for Congress (after his previous service to the BCE, which involved helping their Nazi buddies get into the US after the war) and that it was Grandpa Prescott who introduced Tricky Dick to his "golfing buddy" Dwight D. Eisenhower, and paired them up as the first BCE Presidential ticket in 1952.

Not that Ike and Dick were ever friends though. Presidential Historian Anthony Bergen writes.....

The Eisenhower/Nixon relationship was tense during Eisenhower’s Presidency, but improved over the years and was quite close prior to Eisenhower’s death in 1969 (just two months after Nixon finally became President). Nixon revered Eisenhower, but when he became Eisenhower’s running mate in 1952 and then found himself caught up in the “Checkers” scandal, Eisenhower became wary of Nixon. There were rumors that Eisenhower was planning to dump Nixon from the ticket in 1956, but it didn’t happen.

Nixon ended up being a very good Vice President and a good balance to Eisenhower. Nixon was young (just 40 years old when he was inaugurated as VP) and Eisenhower was one of the oldest Presidents in history. Eisenhower was moderate and seemed calm and composed, while Nixon was his bulldog and hatchet man. Eisenhower didn’t need Nixon as much as Nixon needed Eisenhower, but I think Eisenhower was better off because of Nixon’s presence.

Their relationship was still strained when Nixon ran for President in 1960 upon Ike’s retirement. When asked what major projects Nixon had assisted with during the Eisenhower Presidency, Ike famously said, “If you give me a week, I may think of something.” Eisenhower also delayed his endorsement of Nixon during the 1960 race for the Republican Presidential nomination — something which led Nixon to reportedly finally snap at his boss and tell him, “There comes a time in matters like this when you’ve either got to shit or get off the pot.”

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Odds are the two probably wouldn't have had much to do with each other after January 20, 1961, had Ike's grandson David not married Julie Nixon. Ignoring family is a little more difficult that ignoring ex-employees. The fact that Nixon was so willing to go along with the BCE agenda, and Ike was not, no doubt played a big part in the distance between the two.

[knuckleboner]

just so we're clear, if such a thing as the BCE existed and helped steal the election from jimmy carter in 1980, they would've started with stealing the primary for bush...

[Satan]

just so we're clear, if such a thing as the BCE existed and helped steal the election from jimmy carter in 1980, they would've started with stealing the primary for bush...

Not likely, because Poppy Bush couldn't have won the general election, and they didn't have the means of outright stealing it like they did in Florida 2000 or Ohio 2004 available to them in 1980. So they needed a candidate whose image they could run on, which was Reagan, but they made sure Poppy was on the ticket.

Then his CIA buddy Bill Casey flew to Paris and met with the Iranians, committing treason and lengthening the hostage crisis, in a similar way to how they extended the Vietnam War in 1968 when the LBJ administration was trying to end it and leave Humphrey with a clean slate.

Now whether Poppy intended to give himself a promotion on March 30, 1981 or merely send Reagan a "message" as to who was really in charge, is of course, open to interpretation. What is not is the fact that Poppy picked most of the cabinet, and also the links between the BCE and the Hinckley family.

[knuckleboner]

Not likely, because Poppy Bush couldn't have won the general election, and they didn't have the means of outright stealing it like they did in Florida 2000 or Ohio 2004 available to them in 1980. So they needed a candidate whose image they could run on, which was Reagan, but they made sure Poppy was on the ticket.

Then his CIA buddy Bill Casey flew to Paris and met with the Iranians, committing treason and lengthening the hostage crisis, in a similar way to how they extended the Vietnam War in 1968 when the LBJ administration was trying to end it and leave Humphrey with a clean slate.

Now whether Poppy intended to give himself a promotion on March 30, 1981 or merely send Reagan a "message" as to who was really in charge, is of course, open to interpretation. What is not is the fact that Poppy picked most of the cabinet, and also the links between the BCE and the Hinckley family.

wait, so now you're saying they didn't steal the 1980 election? i guess them BCE are some tricky bastards.


look, you've got some great criticisms of the policies - the need to actually...demonize () them is counter productive because it draws attention away from the policy complaints.

[Satan]

It wasn't an outright theft like 2000 or 2004 was, but it was the use of treason and deception to make the incumbent look bad, and as I said, the plan was similar to what they did in 1968.

LBJ's team then was close to ending the Vietnam war. The BCE promised the Vietnamese a better deal. LBJ knew what they were doing, as did key Republican leaders in the Senate, but both were reluctant to expose the truth to the American people. This conversation is now a matter of public record.

And now the guy who was President of Iran in 1980 has confirmed a similar story during that year.