Establishment Concerned About Bernie's "Strange Behavior"

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  • Terry
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    I'd tend to doubt Bernie would run again, either.

    I'd also tend to agree that Sanders certainly doesn't strike one as a guy who needs his ego massaged, and that wasn't the reason he ran last year.

    The reason Sanders comes across as strange to mainstream Democrats and somewhat dismissible to the corporate media structure has everything to do with Sanders being totally an issue-oriented politician who has essentially been consistent with his beliefs throughout his long political career.

    Sanders isn't photogenic and his charisma isn't derived from his personality but the ideas he expresses and the beliefs he speaks about. Both of which strongly resonate with his supporters if the very enthusiastic response he elicited (and continues to) at his rallies is an indicator. He didn't need decades in the public eye for tabloid-style exploits and a reality tv series to bring tens of thousands of people on their feet cheering, nor did he have to appeal to the fears and worst instincts of a slice of the electorate to draw support. Sanders speaks about fairness, decency and equality with a moral authority that neither Trump nor Clinton could even hope to have.

    Hopefully, the Democratic Party won't fall into the Clintonoid groupthink mindset of "if it weren't for Comey, Hillary would have won" and will instead start looking at the voting demographics of the last election and come to a realization that running a centrist, status quo corporate candidate (be it Hillary, Booker or anyone else) isn't the way to go.

    Sanders is interested in establishing and defining a core set of progressive principles for the Democratic Party going forward, and the only reason he ran last time was that NOBODY else running shared his vision and his principles.

    Say what you will about Bernie's legislative effectiveness over the years and the Moonshot nature of some of his ideas, but he is sure of what he stands for and doesn't have to convince ANYBODY as to who he is and what he believes in. Having integrity tends to bestow those types of traits upon you.

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  • FORD
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    I don't think Bernie has any intentions of running again himself. Rather, he's trying to ensure that there are candidates like him in the future. Unlike other certain candidates, Bernie doesn't have a gigantic ego that demands he be worshipped.

    Unfortunately the DLC false "democrats" refuse to learn the lessons of 2010, 2014, 2016 or from the failures of Hillary Clinton, Debbie Scatterbrained Lush, etc.

    The people (and apparently the birds) get it. That is evident in the reactions Bernie got on this so-called "unity" tour compared to the reactions that Hillary's puppet SHAFTA Tommy got.

    If the Democratic party wants votes, all they need to do is run Democrats. But for the party "leadership" - to quote the Indigo Girls - "the hardest to learn is the least complicated"

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  • Nickdfresh
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    Ford I like Bernie and "Feel the Bern"...

    But isn't' he getting up there?

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  • Nickdfresh
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    It's funny how half of Kristy's bitter, failed posts remind me of the old "Jew media" Howard Stern show bit, "Guess Who's the Jew" hosted by Nazi war criminal and Austrian ex-president Kurt Waldheim Jr...

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  • Nickdfresh
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    Originally posted by Kristy
    She reeeeekkks of the third-wave libfem "movement"

    Bet she feels "empowered," too.
    Are you like fucking some white nationalist biker gang, now?
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    Last edited by Nickdfresh; 04-23-2017, 06:52 PM.

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  • Kristy
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    She reeeeekkks of the third-wave libfem "movement"

    Bet she feels "empowered," too.

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  • FORD
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    Originally posted by Kristy
    Oh, and that fucking "feminist" in your Jew Media vid is a third-wave feminist.

    It's like you don't even try anymore, slave FORD
    I don't have to try here. She speaks pretty well for herself.......






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  • Kristy
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    He works for Jew media so, Jew Media.

    And there are NO Irish Jews in the world?

    Grow up.

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  • FORD
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    Jimmy Dore is Irish. Not "Jew media".

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  • Kristy
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    Oh, and that fucking "feminist" in your Jew Media vid is a third-wave feminist.

    It's like you don't even try anymore, slave FORD

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  • Kristy
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    Oh, the fucking hypocrisy of the pseudo-left: misogyny, anger, oppression all because their master Zionist lying Jew didn't win. Are the rest of you FINALLY seeing what slave FORD truly represents?

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  • Terry
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    The whole Sanders kerfluffle has more to do with Sanders turning over his donor lists to the DNC and [Sanders] both falling in line behind Perez and the national (or 'Establishment') Democratic party structure, and also having Bernie encouraging Sanders supporters to do the same. The Democratic Establishment has finally come to the realization that a sizable amount of the electorate likes what Sanders has to say, so they want what Bernie has in terms of the money and support he earned, but without any of his direct influence on the party, process or policy.

    Sanders isn't a mainstream democrat. For the vast bulk of his career, Sanders didn't even self-identify as a democrat. The Democratic Party is making the mistake of thinking that the nature of Sanders and his support(ers) is easily transferrable to the party. A painless process that won't involve any substantive moves away from corporate centrism. This is a fundamental misreading of the tenor out there. That same fundamental misreading that convinced the Party to give Hillary as close to a coronation as possible last year: she MUST be the nominee because she's the only nominee who can win and therefore she can't lose and therefore she must be the nominee.

    How'd that work out in the end? Oh, yeah, that's right...she LOST. TWICE. So much for the prescience of the then-Democratic Party Establishment in 2016.

    First, in 2008, to Barack Obama. Perhaps the case could be made that her candidacy was less 'historical' than his, and because their politics were similar there was no shame in losing a close one to Obama.

    Then, she lost AGAIN. To Donald Trump, no less. I don't really see the honor to be found coming in second in THAT contest. And now, she's providing various rationales for her loss that NEVER (not one time) give her the majority of ownership in terms of responsibility for that loss.

    The Democratic Party wants to marginalize Sanders. For his part, Sanders doesn't owe the party structure ANYTHING.

    Should be interesting.

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