Bernie Sanders set to announce 2020 presidential run

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  • FORD
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  • twonabomber
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    I am wearing my sycophants today

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  • Seshmeister
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    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
    Um do you know what the word "sycophant" means?

    I find that ants over-praise me. Sycophants? Yes I am.

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  • Nickdfresh
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    Originally posted by Nitro Express
    Trump is now baiting the Democrats into impeaching him. That's what he wants. He wants to be impeached because he knows that will hurt the Dems at election time wasting their time on it. It hurt the Republicans badly wasting their time going after Bill Clinton. The average voter in the middle gets tires of hearing about cum on a blue dress or Russian collusion. They know a real estate developer out of New York is going to be a bit crooked. They know Trump isn't a saint but they have a few things they want done. Their vote goes to who they perceive is getting those things done. People vote for who gives them their lively hood. People vote their pocket book and it's always been that way.
    Well, it appears hard for Trump to get people to do what he wants, even if it's self-destructive. But let's see what happens. Maybe the Dems will wait til 2020, during the election?

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  • private parts
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    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    The Mueller report wasn't an investigation into collusion. Collusion isn't illegal, it was just a word that Trump started using. If you read some of the report for yourself or went to a variety of news sources rather than relying on Fox News you would know this. You would also know why there are some conservatives calling for Trump to be impeached because the report shows that there is a lot of corruption going on.
    Let's call it "conspiracy" then:

    “Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

    And BTW if you read anything other than the garbage put out by the mainstream media, you would know that Russia has been meddling in everyone's elections since Putin wore diapers.
    And I guarantee the Russian's don't hold a candle to the amount of fake election propaganda that FORD alone has been posting on this site!

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  • Nitro Express
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    Trump is now baiting the Democrats into impeaching him. That's what he wants. He wants to be impeached because he knows that will hurt the Dems at election time wasting their time on it. It hurt the Republicans badly wasting their time going after Bill Clinton. The average voter in the middle gets tires of hearing about cum on a blue dress or Russian collusion. They know a real estate developer out of New York is going to be a bit crooked. They know Trump isn't a saint but they have a few things they want done. Their vote goes to who they perceive is getting those things done. People vote for who gives them their lively hood. People vote their pocket book and it's always been that way.

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  • Nitro Express
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    Power does what it wants and government investigations never go anywhere. Voting is pretty much a joke. Nothing ever changes. The military industrial complex and big finance always get what they want. All this political fighting is a nice distraction. Everyone is going after some real estate developer for whatever crazy reason decided he wanted to be president. The real criminals are laughing and continuing in their crimes.

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  • Nitro Express
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    The reality is the very wealthy own both parties. I have no idea why you people argue this shit constantly. Right now the big corporations seem to be backing the Democrats more. Especially the big tech companies. Amazon didn't pay any taxes and believe me. They won't if a lefty becomes the next president. That part never changes. The Clintons and Obama's gave the rich everything they wanted as did the Bush family. Funny. Everyone is talking about Trump's so called crimes but nobody is talking about the Bush, Clintons and Obamas crimes. Well maybe ol Trump is snuggling up to the neocons more because they will protect him. So what that means is Trump reneges on his campaign promises and keeps us in the middle east and maybe Bibi will start a war and we get dragged back into that.

    What we should be doing is pulling completely out of the middle east and focusing on China. China is becoming aggressive and they have us infiltrated to the gills. In fact they have members of our congress offices infiltrated. Russia has the same economy as Italy or the state of New York. China has the money and resources to do far more damage but it's Russia, Russia, Russia. Yeah they spy on us too. Everyone spies on everyone and the US meddles in other people's elections as well.

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  • Nitro Express
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    Originally posted by FORD
    The only thing that's really wrong with felons voting, is that being incarcerated, they might not have a lot of access to relevant information about the candidates & issues on the ballot. We have enough of that already as it is, from the FAUX Noize/hate radio fans.... only they are deliberately MISinformed, as opposed to UNinformed like the prisoners would be.

    For the record, Vermont & Maine apparently allow prisoners to vote already, so that's where Bernie's coming from on the issue. He knows it can work.
    There no longer is real journalism or real news. What we have now are partisan propaganda channels. So that's only divided the country and made it more partisan. The right listens to their propaganda and the left listens to theirs. It makes the country weak because it divides us and we are such a paper tiger we waste all our time on investigations and law suits and get nothing done. Trump eventually will go but nothing will change. We will keep being divided and arguing accomplishing nothing. Maybe someone will hit us with an EMP attack and put us our of our misery. Yeah that will kill a lot of Americans and maybe wake us up finally if we survive it.

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  • Seshmeister
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    Originally posted by FORD
    For the record, Vermont & Maine apparently allow prisoners to vote already, so that's where Bernie's coming from on the issue. He knows it can work.
    I don't think it's a vote winner, it never polled well here and the US is usually further to the right. The UK government has been fighting it for years against pressure from the EU one of those things that would come up in Brexit debates.

    I'm kind of ambivalent about it myself but there is a difference between mass murdering rapist in for life and somebody losing their vote because they sold some blow back in the 1980s.

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  • FORD
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    Originally posted by private parts
    Well well well. Crazy Bernie wants to give convicted felons in prison the right to vote. Hum.. sounds like an outstanding idea. Please tell us more old crazy white dude.
    He just won the race to the far left and his goose is cooked. HAHAHAA!
    The only thing that's really wrong with felons voting, is that being incarcerated, they might not have a lot of access to relevant information about the candidates & issues on the ballot. We have enough of that already as it is, from the FAUX Noize/hate radio fans.... only they are deliberately MISinformed, as opposed to UNinformed like the prisoners would be.

    For the record, Vermont & Maine apparently allow prisoners to vote already, so that's where Bernie's coming from on the issue. He knows it can work.

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  • Seshmeister
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    Originally posted by private parts
    Yeah it's actual news. Basically the only outlet that got the collusion lie correct. Maybe they should go on Fox news to... well I'll let Bill Maher explain
    The Mueller report wasn't an investigation into collusion. Collusion isn't illegal, it was just a word that Trump started using. If you read some of the report for yourself or went to a variety of news sources rather than relying on Fox News you would know this. You would also know why there are some conservatives calling for Trump to be impeached because the report shows that there is a lot of corruption going on.

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  • private parts
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    Well well well. Crazy Bernie wants to give convicted felons in prison the right to vote. Hum.. sounds like an outstanding idea. Please tell us more old crazy white dude.
    He just won the race to the far left and his goose is cooked. HAHAHAA!

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  • private parts
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    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    I've heard the argument made that by appearing on Fox News it legitimises it as an actual news channel rather than a propaganda outlet for Trump and some pretty unsavoury very right wing stuff.

    Only a couple of million people actually watch Fox News and none of them are ever going to vote for Saunders, it's power comes from memes on the internet and so on. If they can respond to accusations of just being a propaganda outlet for Trump with a 'Fuck we even had Bernie on' maybe that's not good...
    Yeah it's actual news. Basically the only outlet that got the collusion lie correct. Maybe they should go on Fox news to... well I'll let Bill Maher explain

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