Some of the toughest, smartest fucking soldiers you'll ever find...
I'm sure they're quacking in their boots over Russia's 50 year old tanks driven out of mothballs...
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Denmark to send its 'entire artillery' to Ukraine, the country's prime minister says
Nathan Rennolds Feb 18, 2024, 5:32 PM GMT
Denmark is sending all of its artillery to Ukraine, the Danish prime minister has said.
Mette Frederiksen made the announcement while speaking at the Munich Security Conference.
It comes as Ukraine faces severe munitions shortages.
Denmark is sending its "entire artillery" to Ukraine, the Danish prime minister has said.
Speaking at the Munich Security Conference, Mette Frederiksen appealed to other European nations to do more to help Ukraine in its fight against Russian President Vladimir Putin's invading forces.
"They are asking us for ammunition now. Artillery now. From the Danish side, we decided to donate our entire artillery," she said.
"I'm sorry to say, friends, there are still ammunition in stock in Europe," she continued. "This is not only a question about production, because we have weapons, we have ammunition, we have air defense that we don't have to use ourself at the moment, that we should deliver to Ukraine."
It comes as Ukrainian forces withdrew from the key eastern town of Avdiivka amid severe munitions shortages.
The Danish announcement will come as particularly welcome news in Ukraine as its military has been starved of artillery shells, forcing it to scale back some operations, Brigadier General Oleksandr Tarnavskyi told Reuters in December.
"There's a problem with ammunition, especially post-Soviet (shells) - that's 122 mm, 152 mm. And today, these problems exist across the entire front line," he said.
Meanwhile, in more positive news to alleviate the ammo famine, the Czech Republic says it could supply 800,000 shells to the Ukrainian military.
Czech President Petr Pavel said in a speech at the Munich Security Conference on 17 February that it had a stockpile of about half a million 155 mm and 300,000 122 mm shells, which can be on the Ukraine frontline in a few weeks "if funding is found quickly."
According to the Kiel Institute for the World Economy, the Nordic country's military aid commitments increased by 3.5 billion euros, or around $3.8 billion, since November — making it one of the biggest military donors by percentage of GDP, the institute says.
Denmark has pledged 8.4 billion euros, around $9 billion, in military aid.
With a crucial $60 billion US aid package stalled in Congress, European support is becoming ever more important for Ukraine.
Earlier this year, the European Union agreed to a new 50 billion euro, or around $53.9 billion, aid package for Ukraine.
"This locks in steadfast, long-term, predictable funding for Ukraine. The EU is taking leadership and responsibility in support for Ukraine; we know what is at stake," President of the European Council Charles Michel said at the time, per Reuters.Leave a comment:
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Ukranian 'sea-drone' torpedoes sink a Russian Black Sea Fleet 'Missile Corvette":
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Maybe Putty can send some Naval Infantry to seize it? Oh wait, they're mostly all dead with many survivors refusing to fight...Leave a comment:
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Well, we just lost Alaska to Putin. Now Sarah Palin can see RuZzia from, er, RuZZia
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Fury is sort of bullshit, but it's some fun bullshit and the ending scenes are over-the-top cartoon/video game shit. But it had its high points of using real tanks on both sides and does make some points about war. It's a decent day-off and bored popcorn film in the Braveheart vein...
I've never seen U-571 and never will not least of which the Bon Jovi cunt factor. But Fury isn't a complete historical purloin of bullshit. Just cartoonish at its worst and chocked full of some realism when it comes to tank crews, the military, and the awful art of killing people...Last edited by Nickdfresh; 01-20-2024, 07:46 AM.Leave a comment:
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The Germans only made about 1400+ Tigers. Overall they were pretty good, but only about 90 were in France after D-Day. But the scene in Fury where Brad Pitt circles the real Tiger tank is crap (Tiger 131 captured by British Army in North Africa after being immobilized by 6 pdr. guns from Churchill tanks lol). The "Fury" tank, a M-4A3E8, had a 76mm "long" gun that could penetrate the frontal armor of a Tiger, so not necessary. The shorter 75mm guns needed to get side or rear shots. The British had the "Firefly" Sherman that mounted a 17 pdr. gun that could kill the Tiger at even longer ranges, both the 76 and 17 had their drawbacks and advantages. But both the US and British Armies kept the shorter 75mm gun because its high explosive shell was better for killing people, small works, trucks, etc. and used them in tandem with the higher velocity guns.This reminds me of stories in WW2 where on 'Top Trumps' terms you could have a Sherman tank which on paper would be vastly inferior to the military nerd take out a Tiger tank just by hitting it a 4 or 5 times stunning the crew and making something stop working. That and there is a stat the vast majority of tanks are not killed by other tanks. Similarly people go on about how the Tiger tanks were better than allied tanks and it's all irrelevant nonsense when the numbers are 30 Shermans built for each Tiger made and so on. In real life it's more about how many can you make, can you refuel them, how reliable are they and how quickly can you fix them.
Further, actually looking at WWII casualty figures, scholars checking US Army documents on dead and wounded Sherman crews found they were a lot lower than anyone expected and infantry had it far worse....Leave a comment:
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^^Naw. That was largely iconic history for up to about two decades ago. A lot of the German tanks were shit and they had their problems. A Panther tank's engine wore out after about 600 miles, if the final drive make-it-go thing didn't break first which it often did as it was weak.
The actual Allied tank losses were about 2:1 in favor of the Germans but not the "5-to-1" crap often quoted. The Allies were on the offensive so they will always take higher losses. They US Army fielded a number of "Jumbo" Shermans that had heavier armor than a Tiger, and the Israelis used the "Super Sherman" M-50/51 mounting a higher velocity 75mm and even a 105mm tank cannon with upgraded sights and stuff that could defeat even the then latest Soviet made T-54/55's and even T-62' well into the 70's!
The Chieftan, a real world US Army Nat'l Guard officer and tanker gives a very nice overview here. He isn't an expert because he commanded M-1 Abrams in war, but because he does primary documentary research and makes the good case that actually the Sherman was the best overall tank in WWII...
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We beat the German tanks by out numbering them. Sadly we lost a lot of tank crews. The Sherman’s were simple and easy to mass produce and easy to maintain. Tigers were far more complicated. With Hitler in charge the Germans did all sorts of dumb shit. Hitler always thought bigger was better.Leave a comment:
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This reminds me of stories in WW2 where on 'Top Trumps' terms you could have a Sherman tank which on paper would be vastly inferior to the military nerd take out a Tiger tank just by hitting it a 4 or 5 times stunning the crew and making something stop working. That and there is a stat the vast majority of tanks are not killed by other tanks. Similarly people go on about how the Tiger tanks were better than allied tanks and it's all irrelevant nonsense when the numbers are 30 Shermans built for each Tiger made and so on. In real life it's more about how many can you make, can you refuel them, how reliable are they and how quickly can you fix them.
And this whole drone shit which seems to be changing things in the same way that Battleships were killed off by aeroplanes.Leave a comment:
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