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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49391

    Gaetz Removes McCarthy From House Speaker Roll

    House Speaker Kevin McCarthy ousted from leadership role in historic vote. Here's what to know.
    Enough Republicans joined Matt Gaetz’s effort in a pair of floor votes.


    Christopher Wilson·Senior Writer
    Updated Tue, October 3, 2023 at 11:37 AM EDT·3 min read

    Rep. Matt Gaetz’s efforts to oust Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy were successful Tuesday as the GOP civil war continues to rage in Congress. It was the first time in U.S. history that a House speaker was voted out of the position.

    Gaetz, the outspoken Florida Republican who’s dealt with a barrage of scandals since being elected in 2016, has been a consistent antagonist of McCarthy. On Monday night, Gaetz announced he would be filing a “motion to vacate” that, if successful, would remove McCarthy from his post.

    McCarthy and his allies could have handled Gaetz’s motion in a few ways, but they chose to hold a vote to “table” it on Tuesday afternoon. If it had been successful, it would have killed Gaetz’s motion and allowed McCarthy to retain his speakership. It failed, with 11 Republicans defecting.

    Later that afternoon a final vote passed, ending McCarthy’s speakership. Eight Republicans joined with 208 Democrats in support of the measure. To close out the proceedings, Rep. Steve Womack of Arkansas, who was presiding over the House, said, "The office of Speaker of the House of the United States House of Representatives is hereby declared vacant."

    Gaetz defended his actions in a speech prior to the final vote, saying, “Chaos is Speaker McCarthy. Chaos is somebody who we cannot trust with their word.”

    McCarthy could run again for the now vacant speakership, something his allies have suggested is likely.

    Gaetz’s case against McCarthy

    Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz.

    Gaetz’s move came after McCarthy agreed over the weekend to support a funding bill that averted a government shutdown. On Monday, Gaetz also accused him of cutting a “secret deal” with Democrats to fund Ukraine’s military in its fight with Russia. Gaetz and other hard-liners object to such funding.

    The Florida congressman has also accused McCarthy of spinelessness, saying the speaker loses his “lunch money in every negotiation” with the White House.

    McCarthy, meanwhile, has insisted that Gaetz’s issue with him is “personal” and has little to do with politics or policy. Speaking to reporters Tuesday morning, McCarthy attempted to project confidence, citing the other challenges he had overcome during his rocky leadership tenure and posting "Bring it on" to social media.

    McCarthy could have negotiated with Democrats for their support in order to guarantee that he kept the position, but he did not, telling CNBC Tuesday morning that Democrats will “decide whatever they’re going to do. And we will live with whatever happens.” Gaetz, however, reached out to Democrats to try and ensure their votes against McCarthy.

    After a lengthy Democratic caucus meeting on Tuesday morning, the party’s leadership said it would not be voting to step in to help McCarthy and centrist Democrats abandoned him as well. There was little love for him among the minority party, following his launch of an impeachment inquiry into President Biden without a floor vote and his defense of former President Donald Trump in the aftermath of the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot.

    What comes next

    Following plans put in place in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks to ensure the continuance of governance, McCarthy had prepared a “speaker-in-waiting” list from which an interim replacement would be chosen. Patrick McHenry of North Carolina, a McCarthy ally, was selected for the role.

    There are disagreements on how much power McHenry will actually have, however, with some procedural experts saying that a replacement would only have the power to oversee the selection of a new speaker. The position doesn’t have to be held by a sitting member of Congress.

    McCarthy struggled to corral his Republican colleagues since the onset of his speakership. It took a historic 15 votes over five days to install him in the position.

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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35551

    #2
    I don't know the details on this but I will say over here any time conservatives bow down to their right wing it never makes them happy. The more you compromise with those people the more they want.

    We have the most right wing prime minister in the UK in living memory and it's just made his party go further right again and now they are plotting to get rid of him for not being completely crazy.

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    • Rikk
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Jan 2004
      • 16518

      #3
      Yes, it's true that he will not try to get Speakership back.

      By the way, I love that Gaetz looks like Butthead. Pity Butthead is much smarter.
      Roth Army Militia

      Originally posted by WARF
      Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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      • Rikk
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Jan 2004
        • 16518

        #4
        Originally posted by Seshmeister
        I don't know the details on this but I will say over here any time conservatives bow down to their right wing it never makes them happy. The more you compromise with those people the more they want.

        We have the most right wing prime minister in the UK in living memory and it's just made his party go further right again and now they are plotting to get rid of him for not being completely crazy.
        Indeed.

        And in the States, the Repubs wonder why they KEEP losing elections. Until they cut this alt-right insanity out of their party, it will continue to drag them down even further.
        Roth Army Militia

        Originally posted by WARF
        Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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        • Kristy
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Aug 2004
          • 16599

          #5
          Originally posted by Rikk
          Yes, it's true that he will not try to get Speakership back.
          No Republican really wants that job

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          • Nickdfresh
            SUPER MODERATOR

            • Oct 2004
            • 49391

            #6
            The Dems now effectively own the House despite being in the narrow minority. Gaetz will probably be thrown off committees after this and he might be reelected but will be put out eventually...

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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49391

              #7
              McCarthy said something about Gaetz having "personal problems in his life" earlier today. So we'll see what comes out of this...

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              • Kristy
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 16599

                #8
                Meet the new boss



                ..maybe

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                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 59309

                  #9
                  So if Gaetz is Butthead, then who is Beavis? Probably the pedo-enabling Gym Jordan?

                  McCarthy was very obviously Stewart.

                  Eat Us And Smile

                  Cenk For America 2024!!

                  Justice Democrats


                  "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32926

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kristy
                    Meet the new boss



                    ..maybe
                    Ha! Legally Trump could become House Speaker but it’s no benefit to him. The MAGA nuts would love it but they would make him king if they could pull it off.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Nitro Express
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 32926

                      #11
                      It’s entertaining as hell watching all these corrupt cunts point the finger at each other but they all are pigs eating from the same trough. We truly have the best government bribery and blackmail can get you. We haven’t reached the point where one general knocks off the previous one but give it time.

                      Last edited by Nitro Express; 10-04-2023, 03:56 PM.
                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 59309

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nitro Express
                        Ha! Legally Trump could become House Speaker but it’s no benefit to him. The MAGA nuts would love it but they would make him king if they could pull it off.
                        Cheeto wouldn't want to be Speaker because he would have to actually show up for the job. Not sit in his pajamas and watch FAUX Noize on TV until noon like he did in the White House.

                        Of course, if this unholy nightmare did happen, every last stinking treasonous MAGAtt would be aiming their AR-15s at Biden & Harris trying to give the Orange fuck an instant promotion to pResident... since he's got no chance in Hell of getting that job through an actual election again.
                        Eat Us And Smile

                        Cenk For America 2024!!

                        Justice Democrats


                        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                        • Seshmeister
                          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                          • Oct 2003
                          • 35551

                          #13
                          I remember when I studied Constitutional Law (it's called public law here) it was boring as fuck and the most recent thing that had happened was a hundred years ago - nowadays it's every other week some new shit going down.

                          Ironically always from the conservatives...

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 59309

                            #14
                            Eat Us And Smile

                            Cenk For America 2024!!

                            Justice Democrats


                            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32926

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Seshmeister
                              I remember when I studied Constitutional Law (it's called public law here) it was boring as fuck and the most recent thing that had happened was a hundred years ago - nowadays it's every other week some new shit going down.

                              Ironically always from the conservatives...
                              Democrats voted to remove the House Speaker as well. It wasn’t just Republicans. Ah things get active when corruption goes unchecked too long. If you think it’s a freak show now just wait.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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