Does Howard Dean get it ??

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  • John Ashcroft
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    Heh heh heh... How'd I miss that last night???

    I count myself as "us" cause I pay a healthy percentage of my paycheck funding entities like NATO (oh, and I also served directly). So yep, "us" it truly is.

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  • Cathedral
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    LMMFAO, Sesh you kill me.................

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  • Seshmeister
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    I think I just owned Johnny...

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  • ELVIS
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    LMAO!

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  • Seshmeister
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    Us?

    How did you join that gang.

    Because you are human?

    Because you are white?

    Because you are American?

    Because you are part of the US administration?

    You fall for the 'we' thing everytime while your 'team' fucks you just as much a they fuck everyone else. The sad thing is that you aren't part of 'us' at all.

    Cheers!

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  • John Ashcroft
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    How is it us "Naive" dolts run your daily affairs?

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  • Seshmeister
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    LMFAO!

    In your dreams.

    So if Microsoft decide to avoid anti trust laws it's because common Americans all put a dollar away to pay for interest groups.

    When the oil industry funds a politician it's actually everyone at the gas pump saying that they want the directors to earn another few million each by giving them influence on environmental law?

    Naive beyond belief...

    Cheers!

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  • John Ashcroft
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    I'm all for special interest groups.

    I think that I've laid my position on this issue out quite clearly.

    Special interest groups should not be a dirty word, as they make none of their own money. They market no product. They only exist because of donations by groups of Americans that share a common philosophy, and want to lobby government.

    It's democracy in it's purest form!

    The fact is, it's also the reason that our system is a republic rather than a straight democracy.

    Politicians should listen to "special interest" groups, because they are the collective voice of a good number of Americans. However, politicians should NEVER EVER EVER subvert the Constitution of the United States of America when catering to such groups. You see, this is where the problem lies, isn't it?

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  • Cathedral
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    Kucinich?
    That fucker has zero chance of getting my vote and he blew his chances of re-election in this state.

    I believe it was the idea of pulling the soldiers out of Iraq on day 1 of his Admin. that changed the Ohioans view of him.

    He isn't as popular as he was before he started opening his mouth.

    Honestly, I'd vote for Edwards if he had a chance of getting nominated. he is the only one that says the things i want to hear. of course he says alot of shit that makes me cringe as well, lol.

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  • FORD
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    Originally posted by Cathedral


    The whole political spectrum is cluster fucked is the ONLY deduction that can be made on that issue.
    Yet you reject the one viable candidate that is speaking out against exactly that.

    Or are you voting for your Ohio neighbor Dennis Kucinich??

    Seriously, Dean wants to change the corporatist stranglehold on the parties. Doing that in the Democratic party would be easy enough. throw the DLC infiltrators out. Doing it in the GOP, much tougher. People like John McCain are the minority among Republicans anymore.

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  • Cathedral
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    Fuck Dean in the ass. Edwards may be climbing to the top of the pile after Kerry's special interest connections get the full blown media exposure it is sure to get.

    Seems he has taken more money from special interests in the last 10 years than any other Senator. not good when you have run your campaign against those very same people, eh?

    Dean did say one thing today that i totally back him on.
    "We don't need that kind of President whether its a Democrat or Republican"
    Sad part is that since Reagan's first term both sides have claimed to be against special interests, yet to this day it is still an issue...

    The whole political spectrum is cluster fucked is the ONLY deduction that can be made on that issue.

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  • ELVIS
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    Hahahaha...

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  • Viking
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    Dr. Demento is just going after the Kucinich 'tinfoil hat' vote, since he lost the haughty 'brie-and-chablis' limousine liberal vote to Kerry.

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  • ELVIS
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    Seems as so huh ..

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  • John Ashcroft
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    Originally posted by FORD
    HAMAS was created by Israel, just as Al Qaeda was created by the BCE.
    Yet you agree with Dean that Hamas is a good thing Ford?

    Interesting twist...

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