BOSS and EVH Collaboration - SDE-3000EVH

[twonabomber]

Around $600

[Von Halen]

Around $600

Does that price include the three stacks? :D

[twonabomber]

I would have ordered it already if it did!

[Nitro Express]

Does that price include the three stacks? :D

People get good Van Halen tone through all sorts of stuff including some cheap shit like the Epiphone Valve Jr. The real trick is knowing how to play like Ed. No black box is going to do that for you.

[Nitro Express]

Shit if I could get three decent stacks for $600 what a deal. It’s going to cost $600 just to retube a 100 watt head here soon.

[twonabomber]

[Terry]

People get good Van Halen tone through all sorts of stuff including some cheap shit like the Epiphone Valve Jr. The real trick is knowing how to play like Ed. No black box is going to do that for you.

Never bothered with any of the EVH gear.

I can fiddle around with my stock Peavey amp, stock Ibanez or stock Charvel and MXR/BOSS/Pro-Co Rat pedals and get an EVH tone.

People love the idea of a single magic box being able to replicate the sound the various bits of customized gear Ed used throughout his career made. As you say, though (and I agree), more of it had to do with what his hands were doing than the gear he was using.

[Nitro Express]

I love power amp distortion. I was never much for the high gain preamp distortion thing. You can get great VH sounds cranking the shit out of low powered tube amps that have a Marshall style tone stack. I have a little 20 watt FUCH’s amp with just a volume knob and three tone knobs. I run it at 89 volts on a variac and crank every knob full up. I run it into a 2x12 with 25 watt green backs. Get the classic VH tone better than anything.

[Nitro Express]

The Ratt is still one of my favorite pedals. I have a Ratt, a OCD and a Plush Cream in my gig bag. I can get my sound with any amp using those.

[Nitro Express]

I only use pedals if I don’t have an amp that works for me or I have to keep the volume down. I have Fryette Power Station and you can use that to cut or boost the volume. It doesn’t thin out the tone like a static load box does. If I have that I just crank the amp and run a line out to the PA mixer.

But I have no use for the buzz box called the 5150. Ed ruined his tone using those.

[Nitro Express]

A lot of Ed’s early tone comes from the speaker cab. You have to push the speakers and get that cab resonating.

[Nitro Express]

If you can’t sound like Ed unplugged, nothing you plug into is going to do it. You have to get the sound from the strings and guitar. Everything else just makes it louder and tweaks the sound a bit.

[Nitro Express]

You can’t polish a turd. If your golf swing sucks spending $10,000 in the pro shop ain’t going to help you.

[ZahZoo]

I'm sure there's a certain portion of the market that buys certain brands hoping to sound "like" the artist endorser... that's fine and typical in the gear market.

But then there's others who are chasing their own sound and see the capabilities something like this pedal/effect can do for their rig and signal chain. The reference to EVH's live sound rig give you a real world application of it's use and capabilities. There's a lot of guitar players that love Eddie's work but have no interest and certainly don't have his playing ability... so they don't try to emulate Ed's compositions. I'm that way... but the gear aspects are interesting.

[Nitro Express]

https://www.mojotone.com/Mojotone-Blackout-British-Head

If you want a really good old school 20 watt drive it to hell amp these are great. Hand wired, well built and one channel is like a Marshall plexi and the other is like a hot JCM 800. 6v6’s sound like EL34’s if you goose them hard. But this amp doesn’t mush out. The note definition is very good. Great for old school VH.