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  • Vinnie Velvet
    Full Member Status

    • Feb 2004
    • 4587

    Ed was the greatest guitar player of all time. The six pack is a testament to that title.

    However....

    He was a neurotic, paranoid, drug riddled, chain smoking alcoholic who in my opinion is the main culprit for the downfall of his once great band.
    =V V=
    ole No.1 The finest
    EAT US AND SMILE

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    • Nitro Express
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 32798

      Ed definitely was his own enemy. Al realized he had a problem and from what I hear once he set his mind to cleaning up he was a way better person. Unfortunately Ed didn’t and things would have been better if he did.

      Valerie is a whack job. Like Sammy she’s using her affiliation with Ed to promote herself. It’s pretty sick. Well honey, you probably helped kill him by making him so miserable he couldn’t kick the booze and cigarettes because he had to deal with you.
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • twonabomber
        formerly F A T
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Jan 2004
        • 11202

        Sammy Hagar told Fox News Digital that joining Van Halen after a successful solo career and performing with the band Montrose was a defining moment for his career.


        This ran on the Fox News site the other day.

        Sammy Hagar planned to retire until he received a call from Eddie Van Halen

        The Red Rocker joined Van Halen in 1985 after a successful solo career and performing with the band Montrose

        Sammy Hagar and Van Halen almost never were.

        While speaking to Fox News Digital after receiving his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame Tuesday, Hagar explained he was about to pump the brakes on his music career — until Eddie Van Halen called.

        "Then comes Van Halen when I was ready to retire. I hate to use that word because I swear it’s not in my DNA. But I was ready to say, ‘You know, I’m going to quit for a while. I’m going to stop. I’ve been touring my whole life,’" the rocker shared.

        "This is 1985, you know. I just came off a major tour, platinum albums in a row, you know. I was rich and famous. So, I thought, ‘Why am I going to keep doing this?’ And then Eddie [Van Halen] calls. That was a defining moment."

        Before his time as Van Halen’s frontman, Hagar rose to fame playing with the band Montrose in the 1970s and then had a successful solo career.

        Hagar told Fox News Digital with a laugh that another defining moment of his career was "getting thrown out of Van Halen" in 1996 after creative differences with Eddie. "I had to roll up my sleeves and go back to work."

        He said joining Montrose early on was also an important moment in his career.

        "Joining Montrose was a big step from playing clubs, someone else's music, to writing my own music and making my own album of original material and then going on tour all over the world," he told Fox News Digital. "So, that was a big moment. I mean, that was a defining moment. I learned everything from Ronnie Montrose. How to play on stage, how to write songs, how to do all that."

        He eventually rejoined Van Halen from 2003 to 2005 and was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame as a member of the group in 2007. Eddie Van Halen died in 2020.

        Hagar was joined Tuesday by celebrities like fellow Van Halen member Michael Anthony, Red Hot Chili Peppers musician Chad Smith, John Mayer and Food Network star Guy Fieri.

        "But it was great. It was an amazing ceremony and so deserved by Sammy," he added. "Such a great guy, way beyond the music. He’s a philanthropist. He’s a community guy. He’s a worldly person. This was one of the highlights of my career without question."

        Mayer also spoke about his bond with Hagar during his speech at the ceremony.

        "Sammy Hagar was already a hugely successful artist in his own right when he was asked to join Van Halen," Mayer told the audience gathered near Amoeba Music on Hollywood Boulevard.

        "He certainly didn’t have to join another band to continue making hit records. I think the reason he took them up on the offer is for the same reason he does anything — because it sounded like fun. Sammy is driven by having fun. Sammy has the kind of fun we only dream about letting ourselves have.

        "Every time I think of him, a thought comes to mind that I’d like to share with you today: Wherever you are, whatever you’re doing, Sammy Hagar is having way more fun than you."

        Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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        • twonabomber
          formerly F A T
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Jan 2004
          • 11202

          So let's pick this apart.

          Anyone who believes Sam was going to retire is an idiot.

          Platinum albums in a row? Um, no. Standing Hampton came out in 1982 but didn't go platinum until 1992! Three Lock Box only went gold, VOA was released in 1984 and went platinum in November of '85. His first post-VH solo album went gold...and he hasn't had a gold or platinum solo album since. Well, maybe Unboxed, but it's a compilation and it didn't go gold until '95. Proof: https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?...search_section

          We've gone over the "I played multiple nights in arenas" thing before.

          The Hollywood walk of fame doesn't just hand out stars, one has to be sponsored and someone has to pay for it. Someone may have sponsored Hagar, I wouldn't be surprised to find out he paid for it himself.
          Last edited by twonabomber; 05-05-2024, 05:40 PM.
          Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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          • Seshmeister
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Oct 2003
            • 35223

            I'm beginning to wonder how accurate these Fox News people actually are.

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 58835

              So apparently there's a "super deluxe box set" edition of the Van Hagar "FUCK" album coming out. Complete with "alternate" tracks and a blu ray of their 1991 concert in Dallas.
              Why the fuck haven't they already done this with any of the actual Van HALEN albums? Maybe this has something to do with those rants Dave put out against Sammy & Alex a while back?



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              • Silexxx
                Head Fluffer
                • Sep 2010
                • 263

                Yeah wtf. Also all the Hagar videos they have uploaded to VH's official YouTube channel have been HD remastered. CVH videos look like crap and only are 240p or something.

                Too bad to those Van Hagar fans who bought that basic ass box set that didn't have anything special in it just 8 months ago. There's really nothing "new" here either. Just some alternate versions and that free Dallas show. Seems like they are starting to milking that era now. "Limited Edition"

                And all those CVH re-re-releases. All 5 of them or how many there have been. Why didn't any of those have anything new or unreleased material? Maybe it's Dave lol. Is he the one who's blocking VH releasing anything that hasn't been already released? Or who?

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                • Vinnie Velvet
                  Full Member Status

                  • Feb 2004
                  • 4587

                  Originally posted by FORD
                  So apparently there's a "super deluxe box set" edition of the Van Hagar "FUCK" album coming out. Complete with "alternate" tracks and a blu ray of their 1991 concert in Dallas.
                  Why the fuck haven't they already done this with any of the actual Van HALEN albums? Maybe this has something to do with those rants Dave put out against Sammy & Alex a while back?


                  Yeah I dont get this release.

                  While all of Van Hagar is lame, FUCK is not even their most successful album. So why feature it in some expanded edition?

                  We want Van HALEN expanded edition releases. Not this Hagar shit.
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                  ole No.1 The finest
                  EAT US AND SMILE

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                  • Terry
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 11968

                    Originally posted by twonabomber
                    So let's pick this apart.

                    Anyone who believes Sam was going to retire is an idiot.

                    Platinum albums in a row? Um, no. Standing Hampton came out in 1982 but didn't go platinum until 1992! Three Lock Box only went gold, VOA was released in 1984 and went platinum in November of '85. His first post-VH solo album went gold...and he hasn't had a gold or platinum solo album since. Well, maybe Unboxed, but it's a compilation and it didn't go gold until '95. Proof: https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?...search_section

                    We've gone over the "I played multiple nights in arenas" thing before.

                    The Hollywood walk of fame doesn't just hand out stars, one has to be sponsored and someone has to pay for it. Someone may have sponsored Hagar, I wouldn't be surprised to find out he paid for it himself.
                    I could see where Hagar had been planning to take a break after the VOA tour which coincided right around the time Dave left the band and Eddie called. A break in terms of a vacation. I don't think Hagar was actually going to 'retire' back in 1985. Hagar's original claims were along the lines of him having just completed the VOA tour and looking forward to taking a long break/vacation when Eddie first called about jamming with the band.

                    VOA was Hagar's best-selling effort in his career up to that point, but it wasn't a multiplatinum smash right out of the box in 1985. As you say, it just broke platinum about a year after it was released. I don't know what the state of Hagar's finances were back in 1985, but based on his record sales I doubt he was a millionaire several times over in 1985. It wasn't like VOA was selling tens of millions of units and Hagar could afford to walk away from the industry back in 1985.

                    It just sounds better for Sam's narrative these days to say "blah blah blah, I was about to retire forever, then Eddie Van Halen called, blah blah blah" than it is to simply be truthful about it.

                    Had Hagar actually retired after the VOA album, at best he'd be a trivia answer on a pop culture Jeopardy question. "Who wrote the mid-1980's song 'I Can't Drive 55' for $100?"
                    Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                    • ZahZoo
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 8979

                      At that time... Hagar stating "I was thinking retiring" really meant he'd reached a significant milestone in suckage with his future outlook dim...
                      "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                      • Terry
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 11968

                        I'm sure after the VOA tour concluded Hagar had a few bucks in the bank given that even though his solo career was modest compared to the success of CVH, unlike CVH Hagar wasn't splitting his earnings 4 ways. Hagar had a degree of name recognition as a solo act prior to joining Van Halen, to be sure. I never thought of Hagar as all THAT successful as a solo artist in commercial terms either before or after he was in Van Halen. It hasn't been a thing with Hagar where his back catalog was selling a million albums a year, year after year. Like, even if Hagar had negotiated a good record deal for his solo albums after he left Montrose, it'd still have been based on the number of units sold to some degree, even if he was taking advances from the record company.

                        Meh. Who gives a fuck?
                        Scramby eggs and bacon.

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