1984 Fan Documentary - 5 Part Miniseries

[twonabomber]

Funny that Al is going after this and they didn't go after the "Early Years" thing.

[Vinnie Velvet]

Funny that Al is going after this and they didn't go after the "Early Years" thing.

Perhaps post-Ed passing he's trying to be more aware of what's out there.

[Rikk]

I wouldn't say ADKOT is a bad album...just not listening to it much anymore...

I respect this opinion...but I have to say: my personal feelings are NOT the same.

I waited for decades (literally) for something like ADKOT to be recorded/released. I was 9 when I found out that there would be no follow-up to 1984 (which was my first album I got by my new favorite band). I was crushed when I heard Dave left. I actually DID NOT see the point in the band releasing anything else. Dave was the reason I got into VH. My whole life changed when I saw the JUMP video at the tender age of 8. I loved the musicians...but Dave was the reason I became a fan.

I tried to listen to some of the Hagar stuff...but even at that young age, I thought: "Now they sound like so many other bands...bands I don't like." I didn't like Journey. I didn't want VH to turn into another Journey.

I listen to it semi regularly. I think it is a great album, just wish it would have come out way before it did.

Exactly my thoughts. I've rarely been as excited as I was in 2011-12 for a new album. I didn't feel the same "almost my whole world is depending on this" excitement I felt when I heard Sam was out & Dave was back in the summer of '96. Not even close. The band had fucked fans over so many times between 1996 and 2012. BUT...having a new VH album with Dave in 2012...I was so fucking stoked.

AND...almost nothing about A DIFFERENT KIND OF TRUTH is lacking for me. Sure...I don't like the mix and compressed sound as much as the 6-pack. And sure...Dave's voice is not what it was during the original years.

But I was NEVER one of those fans angry that Mike wasn't included. I saw the reunion tour twice and thought Wolfgang held his own on bass...and the backing vocals, while not as good as in the original days, were fine.

Frankly, I was kind of satisfied seeing Mike kicked out finally. I thought he was a traitor for following Hagar in the years before the 2007 reunion. AND...I'll never forget reading Mike in an interview around 1996, admitting that he was the one band member who especially didn't want Roth to return. He even admitted that he told the brothers he really didn't want Roth back. I remember reading that and thinking, "Maybe they should can your fat ass and keep Roth."

Refreshing to hear VON saying he considers ADKOT one of the 7 VH albums he thoroughly enjoys. I LOVE IT. The songs are great, Dave's lyrics are great (often an improvement over the lyrics on the original '76 and '77 demos)...and the band smokes. It's the true return of Van Halen.

To me: top-notch Van Halen is those first six albums (I love all six), the two songs from BEST OF (I still love both of those songs, especially ME WISE MAGIC, and listen to them regularly) and A DIFFERENT KIND OF TRUTH. I still listen to it regularly. SHE'S THE WOMAN, YOU & YOUR BLUES, CHINA TOWN, BLOOD & FIRE, BULLETHEAD, OUTTA SPACE (LET'S GET ROCKIN' still has the better solo), STAY FROSTY, BIG RIVER & BEATS WORKIN' are all still prime Van Halen to me. I even like TATTOO. Even the three songs I don't like quite as much as the rest of the album (AS IS, HONEYBABYSWEETIEDOLL and THE TROUBLE WITH NEVER) are still solid Van Halen for me. There's not one track I don't like.

The only thing I would like would be a solid remix of ADKOT with less compression and more high-end in the sound. But considering how many possible releases are on VH fans' wishlists, I'm not holding my breath.

I would love to see some pro-shot Blu-Rays of classic-era (or even reunion era) live gigs to see release...or even another live era. I can't believe they think fans should be excited over a re-release of LIVE: RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW. That's a terrible live album. Just terrible. (Even LIVE WITHOUT A NET is much better than RHRN.)

BUT (and again, I'm not holding my breath)...the coolest thing the band could do (besides some vault releases of studio outtakes from the 6-pack, including the remixed '77 demos...all this was compiled in the mid-2000s but never got band approval for release) would be for Wolf & Al to go through the 5150 vaults, compile a bunch of instrumental outtakes Ed recorded during all those years he had his studio, get Dave down to the studio to turn them into finished songs with new vocals...and put it out as another album. THAT would be great. Basically an 8th Van Halen album.

BUT...I'm not holding my breath.

[Silexxx]

Episode 2 uploaded on Dave's YouTube now.

[ZahZoo]

Update as posted on VHLinks by Alan...

Episodes 1 & 2 are back up on youtube. Plus episode 2 is posted on Dave's youtube channel...

Thanks to Diamond David Lee Roth, my videos are back up. I will let everyone know later what happened.

[Vinnie Velvet]

Interesting. Saw that Dave posted it on his socials.

[Nickdfresh]

The Road to US Fest

[twonabomber]

um...

[Rikk]

Yeah, I just saw that. Interesting.

I had already downloaded the first two episodes, but I'm hoping we get to see the others soon too.

[Heater]

For years Ed noodled and did outside projects. Of course not high profile cause mainly he wasnt a singer.

Dave didn't want to leave the band but wanted to do the EP and the movie. After six albums and a grueling 10-12 years of first clubbing then endless headline touring, why not?

Was that so bad? Freddie Mercury for instance did a solo thing but that didn't break up Queen.

Ed just couldn't handle the fact that CFTH did very well for an EP. And the videos were in regular rotation and very popular.

I mean, all that benefitted the next CVH album. More exposure. Guess Ed didnt see it that way.

I think playing the solo on “Beat It”, a song on the highest selling album of all time, overshadowed Dave’s kicky remake of California Girls. I think that irked Dave to no end, Ed getting all this attention without trying meanwhile all Roth ever did was try to get attention. I can’t, however, disagree with what Dave said about Ed’s contribution to MJ’s album…..”he goes over there and plays the same solo he does on every song”.

[ZahZoo]

Cleanup on isle Nick...

[Nickdfresh]

Cleanup on isle Nick...

Well fuck my life, can't always shit nuggets of gold...

[Nickdfresh]

I'll merge it tomorrow...

[ZahZoo]

Well the shit shows has returned and the videos were taken down again... The following are posts by Alan at VHLinks...

This story gets crazier and crazier. Yesterday went from an extreme high back to down to almost square one. I can't wait to fill you all in. But for now, I have to zip it back up.

I thought about it. But man, I'm ready to move the fuck on. lol..I will probably just do a podcast and then go on with my life.

I can confirm Al is a complete douche.

[Nitro Express]

I think it's very likely Wolf has that thing that most people who have been born with an insane advantage in life whereby they think they achieved it themselves. His is an extreme example but in my experience people born as rich kids in general usually don't think about how the education and network of people their parents give them access to is why they are doing so well rather than their own work and ability.

It's too uncomfortable for someone like that to compare themselves with all the thousands of guys their own age who worked much harder and were much more talented getting nowhere.

In other words Wolfie is a spoiled brat. Well he grew up with more jingle but you probably wouldn’t want to trade your life with his. He’s a miserable fuck.