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  • SilvioDante
    Head Fluffer
    • Jan 2004
    • 484

    Opinions on demo version of Somebody Get Me a Doctor

    I was recently listening to some of the old demos. When I got to SGMAD, I realized how much I like the demo opening better than the version on VHII. Am I crazy or does anyone else agree?

    "Don't try to confuse the issue with half truths and gorilla dust." - Bill NcNeal
  • chefcraig
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Apr 2004
    • 12172

    #2
    If you are a fan of Toto, then maybe. Otherwise, yes, you are crazy, or at least have been bonked upon your head with a baseball bat a dozen times.










    “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
    ― Stephen Hawking

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    • SilvioDante
      Head Fluffer
      • Jan 2004
      • 484

      #3
      Originally posted by chefcraig
      If you are a fan of Toto, then maybe. Otherwise, yes, you are crazy, or at least have been bonked upon your head with a baseball bat a dozen times.
      Point taken. Never noticed that before. Ouch.
      "Don't try to confuse the issue with half truths and gorilla dust." - Bill NcNeal

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      • cadaverdog
        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
        • Aug 2007
        • 8955

        #4
        Gotta agree Craig. I like the rest of it though. You can understand every word. I don't miss the woo woo part from the album version either. Dave really puts emotion into the lyrics on the demo. Overall I give it
        Beware of Dog

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        • Satan
          ROTH ARMY ELITE
          • Jan 2004
          • 6664

          #5
          Actually, I always thought that Toto song borrowed from.....

          Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

          Originally posted by Sockfucker
          I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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          • Guitar Shark
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Jan 2004
            • 7579

            #6
            That Toto song came out later, didn't it? Either way, I'm with you, Silvio. I like the beginning of the demo version better.
            ROTH ARMY MILITIA


            Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
            Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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            • VAiN
              Use my hand, I won't look
              ROCKSTAR

              • Nov 2006
              • 5056

              #7
              I've always preferred the way they went into the 2nd half of the solo in the club days.. I really wish they didn't cut out for the studio, it's just fucking bad-ass!

              Originally posted by wiseguy
              That shit will welcome you in the morning and pour the milk in your count chocula for ya.

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              • DLR Bridge
                ROCKSTAR

                • Mar 2011
                • 5471

                #8
                I always thought the last three chords of Big Me by the Foo Fighters sounded like the opening to SGMAD. Dave likes VH. Maybe it was a tip of the hat.

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                • DLR Bridge
                  ROCKSTAR

                  • Mar 2011
                  • 5471

                  #9
                  Originally posted by VAiN
                  I've always preferred the way they went into the 2nd half of the solo in the club days.. I really wish they didn't cut out for the studio, it's just fucking bad-ass!
                  Same here. I have a few versions with the extended jam. That odd time signature stuff is gold. Alex was as fierce in drums as Ed was on guitar.

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                  • cadaverdog
                    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 8955

                    #10
                    If this song had come out on an album after Ozzy put out his first solo album with Randy Rhoads they might have done it differently and kept some of the extra guitar work. I've never heard that before or I would have noticed Randy was probably influenced by Eddie during the Van Halen club years. Doesn't seem right that Quiet Riot got a record deal before Van Halen when they both played the L A club scene around the same time. I found a story about a review from a Rolling Stone critic that called Randy a "junior League Eddie Van Halen". Meaning he had lots of talent but lacked imagination. It's hard to figure out if that's a compliment about Ed or a put down. It might be both.
                    Beware of Dog

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                    • Seshmeister
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Oct 2003
                      • 35284

                      #11
                      Originally posted by VAiN
                      I've always preferred the way they went into the 2nd half of the solo in the club days.. I really wish they didn't cut out for the studio, it's just fucking bad-ass!



                      I was just about to post the same thing.

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                      • VHscraps
                        Veteran
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 1869

                        #12
                        Well, the alternative intro ... that reminds me ...

                        I don't know how many on here will know who Julian Cope is? An English singer who was moderately successful in the 80s and 90s over here in the UK. Anyway, he later became a writer of books on music (Krautrocksampler, Japrocksampler, etc), and has a lot of other writings on his website, Head Heritage. He's a bit in the Gonzo journalism / Hunter S. Thompson style, for those of you who like that kind of thing ...



                        He's a huge CVH fan.

                        So, one of the reviews on his site is of the Van Halen 'Atomic Punks' bootleg - the last show at the Pasadena Civic before VH1 came out - and there's a version of 'Somebody Get Me a Doctor' that Cope has a good description of, and when I read it, I thought of that old intro and its reprise after the solo:

                        "Side two opens by sucking us into the Sir Lord Baltimorean* “Somebody Get Me A Doctor”. Freed from its album two bondage and fixed with a six-inch syringe full of the good John Garner Juice, what a heathen racket this be! I mean this song is just a festival of utter confusion – I wish I didn’t know it and I’m jealous of those who might be being introduced to this song for the first time via this particular version."

                        *Note: Sir Lord Baltimore was seemingly an early 70s US hard rock band that Cope thinks were quite like VH.
                        THINK LIKE THE WAVES

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                        • cadaverdog
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 8955

                          #13
                          Originally posted by VHscraps

                          "Side two opens by sucking us into the Sir Lord Baltimorean* “Somebody Get Me A Doctor”. Freed from its album two bondage and fixed with a six-inch syringe full of the good John Garner Juice, what a heathen racket this be! I mean this song is just a festival of utter confusion – I wish I didn’t know it and I’m jealous of those who might be being introduced to this song for the first time via this particular version."
                          Sometimes it's hard to believe we speak the same language. That sounds like somebody addressing Parliament. I'm surprised he didn't end that with "pip pip cheerio" . I've heard Robert Plant describing music like that before. Doesn't sound anything like he does when he's singing. How come Brits sound like Americans when they sing but not when they talk?
                          Beware of Dog

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                          • VHscraps
                            Veteran
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 1869

                            #14
                            Originally posted by cadaverdog
                            Sometimes it's hard to believe we speak the same language. That sounds like somebody addressing Parliament. I'm surprised he didn't end that with "pip pip cheerio" . I've heard Robert Plant describing music like that before. Doesn't sound anything like he does when he's singing. How come Brits sound like Americans when they sing but not when they talk?
                            I heard it once said that the English language as it is spoken today in certain parts of the USA (particularly the parts that were early colonies) is probably closer to English as it was spoken in England in 1775, or whatever, than English as it is spoken today in England.

                            But, this is not what you mean.

                            Of course, he talks what a pal of mine terms 'intellectual bollocks'. But I don't mind that now and again ...
                            THINK LIKE THE WAVES

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                            • cadaverdog
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 8955

                              #15
                              Originally posted by VHscraps

                              Of course, he talks what a pal of mine terms 'intellectual bollocks'. But I don't mind that now and again ...
                              Sometimes it sounds like snobbery. Other times it makes a simple statement sound more important.
                              Beware of Dog

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